Feb 19, 2009 6:16 PM GMT
Canadians talk to Obama
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Feb 19, 2009 6:16 PM GMT -
Feb 20, 2009 1:34 AM GMTDid I miss something? What prompted this? And what is up with the hat on the second guy? -
Feb 20, 2009 1:37 AM GMTgrowingbig saidDid I miss something? What prompted this? And what is up with the hat on the second guy?
Obama just visited there today. -
Feb 20, 2009 1:39 AM GMTThat's nice...we are friendly and neighbourly. Nice, but without much substance..
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Feb 20, 2009 1:52 AM GMTDelivis saidThat's nice...we are friendly and neighbourly. Nice, but without much substance..
I'll take your word for it. -
Feb 20, 2009 2:19 AM GMTYa I have to agree with that one, the substance is lacking. But we ARE friendly. haha. -
Feb 20, 2009 2:22 AM GMTYou're a hot guy for 57.
I'm not sure what your fixation is with Obama's visit to Canada, but let me give you Canada's perspective on the visit. He's a rock star up here. His approval rating is over 80% in Canada and most Canadians want him to be their political leader in polls. After he left, I'm sure it's more like 100%.
There were people running across the acres of lawn at Parliament Hill just to try to catch a glimps of him as his monster limo went by. That's unprecendented in Canada. We treat politicians here much like we treat our accountants. They're not worthy of our interest.
That will be repeated in every foreign country that he visits. He going to be treated as a rock star all over the world. Mostly for two reasons: A; he's a black president in the country that invented slavery, B; he's not George Bush. OK Three reasons. C: his genuine interest is for the well being of the entire world. He IS the second coming.
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Feb 20, 2009 2:24 AM GMTDelivis saidThat's nice...we are friendly and neighbourly. Nice, but without much substance..
Its actually pretty cute. Its a "positive substancelessness". Americans have more of a negative version of it. At least southerners do anyway. -
Feb 20, 2009 2:26 AM GMTbarriehomeboy said A; he's a black president in the country that invented slavery
Umm...you realise slavery is an order of mangitude older than the US is, right? -
Feb 20, 2009 2:38 AM GMTbarriehomeboy saidYou're a hot guy for 57.
... it's in the rules, look it up!
I'm not sure what your fixation is with Obama's visit to Canada,
See, if we americans dont say anything about others, we are accused of having no interest outside of our own country. If we pay attention, we are accused of a "fixation" Good heavens, it's hard to make you people happy, isnt it? So much for all those Canadians saying how nice you all are.
A; he's a black president in the country that invented slavery,
I hardly think America invented slavery ....and may I remind you that Canada had legalized slavery of Africans at one time, too. -
Feb 20, 2009 2:42 AM GMTCaslon9000 said
barriehomeboy saidYou're a hot guy for 57.
I'm not sure what your fixation is with Obama's visit to Canada,
See, if we americans dont say anything about others, we are accused of having no interest outside of our own country. If we pay attention, we are accused of a "fixation" Good heavens, it's hard to make you people happy, isnt it?
A; he's a black president in the country that invented slavery,
I hardly think America invented slavery ....and may I remind you that Canada had legalized slavery of Africans at one time, too.
Cut him some slack. He did say you were hot! -
Feb 20, 2009 2:44 AM GMTCitizenSol said
Caslon9000 said
barriehomeboy saidYou're a hot guy for 57.
I'm not sure what your fixation is with Obama's visit to Canada,
See, if we americans dont say anything about others, we are accused of having no interest outside of our own country. If we pay attention, we are accused of a "fixation" Good heavens, it's hard to make you people happy, isnt it?
A; he's a black president in the country that invented slavery,
I hardly think America invented slavery ....and may I remind you that Canada had legalized slavery of Africans at one time, too.
Cut him some slack. He did say you were hot!
Cut me some slack. I wasnt talking to you. -
Feb 20, 2009 2:45 AM GMTbarriehomeboy said
He IS the second coming.
this is entirely the thing that scares me about Obamamania....
he is NOT a savior.
personally, i am no fan of Obama, because he has given me no reason to be. hopefully, he can change my mind.
but blind faith, i repeat... blind FAITH... in any leader is a dangerous thing.
faith is an incredibly dangerous tool in the hands of a politician, and to hold towards any individual person... because people are corruptible and deeply flawed..
blind faith in a political leader is just that, faith - not rational thought, nor clear discussion - but "belief" in the purity and greatness of the "leader". this leads to a cult of personality, which is a mighty powerful and destructive tool in societies.
true "change" is to be found in the self - if you want to change the world, you must start with yourself, and you must act to change it. Gandhi said, "Be the change you want to see in the world."
Having "faith" in a leader to create the right kind of change gives them carte blanche authority... that kind of position is capable of corrupting anyone. they can do as they please, and no one will say anything, because it is all in the name of "the greater good", and the "leader knows best" .... it would become a blow to a person's world view and collapse their understanding of everything around them to imagine that their "faith" could be misplaced and abused.
this is why "faith" should never be vested in a person in a position of power.
though i am sure (or at least hope) it was a joke in saying "he IS the second coming," - the point remains, and that does seem to be a general attitude of many of the people in the world.
i just fear what will happen if he does not provide change that is worthy of believing in. -
Feb 20, 2009 2:56 AM GMTMeOhMy
i just fear what will happen if he does not provide change that is worthy of believing in.
that's the question that Hillary and Palin are thinking.
Undoubtedly, if he doesnt provide results or what he promised on the campaign trail, he will have to work very very hard during the next election to persuade voters that he is the best candidate for the job. If he's up against a successful Hillary after her tenure as Secretary of State, then he's in for a tough race. Palin...well i mean c'mon. -
Feb 20, 2009 2:56 AM GMTthere r several crazy people in this -
Feb 20, 2009 3:00 AM GMTCaslon9000 said
CitizenSol said
Caslon9000 said
barriehomeboy saidYou're a hot guy for 57.
I'm not sure what your fixation is with Obama's visit to Canada,
See, if we americans dont say anything about others, we are accused of having no interest outside of our own country. If we pay attention, we are accused of a "fixation" Good heavens, it's hard to make you people happy, isnt it?
A; he's a black president in the country that invented slavery,
I hardly think America invented slavery ....and may I remind you that Canada had legalized slavery of Africans at one time, too.
Cut him some slack. He did say you were hot!
Cut me some slack. I wasnt talking to you.
Holy shit. I was joking. Good god man. -
Feb 20, 2009 3:00 AM GMTSome people can't take their head out of their own ass long enough to look around and see anything good. Everything looks like shit to them. The rest of us don't have our head up your ass, luckily, and things will move on. -
Feb 20, 2009 3:00 AM GMTbarriehomeboy saidthere r several crazy people in this
referring to anyone in particular? -
Feb 20, 2009 3:02 AM GMTObama's visit to Canada was a hugely positive step in our relations. Why take anything away from that? -
Feb 20, 2009 3:03 AM GMTgay marriage is legal in Canada. Pot is, well almost legal in Canada. Why is Canada a threat to the gay USA? -
Feb 20, 2009 3:11 AM GMTbarriehomeboy saidObama's visit to Canada was a hugely positive step in our relations. Why take anything away from that?
I didn't take anything "away" from his visit.. although I'm not sure how "positive" a step it has been for our relations... our political leaders have always been very allied with those south of the border. it was a significant symbolic visit, in that it was the first foreign state visit of Obama.
and as for suggesting all i see is "shit" because i can't see anything positive... well, excuse me for having a different perspective from that of mass hysteria.
when did criticizing political leaders become a matter of going against "the divine"?
you're very response explains my previous post on "blind faith."
differing opinions are the healthiest thing for a democracy and the practice of freedom.. any stifling of dissent is anathema to democracy.
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Feb 20, 2009 3:13 AM GMTI didn't use the word shit in any sentence involving obama
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Feb 20, 2009 3:13 AM GMTbarriehomeboy saidgay marriage is legal in Canada. Pot is, well almost legal in Canada. Why is Canada a threat to the gay USA?
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Feb 20, 2009 3:13 AM GMTwhy are you Americans so hateful?
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Feb 20, 2009 3:14 AM GMTbarriehomeboy saidSome people can't take their head out of their own ass long enough to look around and see anything good. Everything looks like shit to them. The rest of us don't have our head up your ass, luckily, and things will move on.
is this not a reference to shit and... "involving obama"?
