Coconut oil 'as unhealthy as beef fat and butter'

  • metta

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    Jun 17, 2017 7:46 AM GMT
    Coconut oil 'as unhealthy as beef fat and butter'


    http://www.bbc.com/news/health-40300145
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    Jun 17, 2017 2:20 PM GMT
    One day it is healthy... the next day it isn't...

    Why bother... no worry... be happy
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    Jun 17, 2017 2:35 PM GMT
    The bbc also censors witnesses on screen who have seen Muslim's yelling allah while committing crimes and trying to kill people, all in efforts to prevent "islamophobia"; In other words, bbc is bullshit.
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    Jun 17, 2017 4:14 PM GMT
    TO23 saidThe bbc also censors witnesses on screen who have seen Muslim's yelling allah while committing crimes and trying to kill people, all in efforts to prevent "islamophobia"; In other words, bbc is bullshit.

    The BBC is the most well balanced news outlet.
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    Jun 17, 2017 4:54 PM GMT
    Me wonders what the "healthy" alternative is now. icon_rolleyes.gif
  • bro4bro

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    Jun 17, 2017 5:37 PM GMT
    An old rule of thumb... anything people have been eating for thousands of years is probably good for you
    And anything people have been eating for less than a hundred years is probably bad for you
    I'll take beef fat, butter, and coconut oil over Splenda, soy milk and margarine any day of the week
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    Jun 17, 2017 6:09 PM GMT
    me like coconut... coconut is good 4 me.
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    Jun 17, 2017 8:06 PM GMT
    My rule of thumb is: always look at the waistline of however gives you nutritional advice. icon_razz.gif
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    Jun 17, 2017 11:22 PM GMT
    There's duck fat.
  • bro4bro

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    Jun 18, 2017 12:26 AM GMT
    bachian saidMy rule of thumb is: always look at the waistline of however gives you nutritional advice. icon_razz.gif


    I'll have whatever you're having, please...icon_biggrin.gif
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    Jun 18, 2017 12:32 AM GMT
    Moderation!!

    Coconut Oil has some very healthy and holistic benefits. To much of a good thing can be not really good.
    Fats are better in general than all the processed carbs.....Just moderation!!
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    Jun 18, 2017 3:23 AM GMT
    bro4bro said
    An old rule of thumb... anything people have been eating for thousands of years is probably good for you
    And anything people have been eating for less than a hundred years is probably bad for you. I'll take beef fat, butter, and coconut oil over Splenda, soy milk and margarine any day of the week.

    I read a study, from many years ago (so that I can't link it today), that said many thousands of years ago humans became genetically optimized to the food sources that had available, in their individual locales. Since early humans didn't roam much.

    So that some humans optimized on seafood, if they lived near the ocean, where that was plentiful. Others inland optimized on cultivated foods, like grains, or even earlier in time, what they could find in local vegetables, fruits and nuts. And others thrived on red meats, the game they could kill.

    The hypothesis was that some of us are genetically programmed, from thousands of years of evolution, to do better on some food sources than others. Just as our very distant ancestors were.

    I dunno. i do well with seafood, all kinds of fish. Along with vegetables, fruits & nuts. Not so well with red meats. I love the taste, but I'm increasingly having trouble digesting it. Just me, and age, or is this an indication of my distant ancestral evolution?

    A curious question. I'd welcome any (serious) comments.
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    Jun 18, 2017 7:06 AM GMT
    bro4bro saidAn old rule of thumb... anything people have been eating for thousands of years is probably good for you
    And anything people have been eating for less than a hundred years is probably bad for you
    I'll take beef fat, butter, and coconut oil over Splenda, soy milk and margarine any day of the week


    solid!


    We had the diet right long ago not so much now.

    "Saturated fats Animal products are the primary source of saturated fats in most people’s diets, although coconut oil and palm oil are 92% and 50% saturated fats respectively. Saturated fats constitute about 50% of the cell membrane. Together with protein, fats give our cells stiffness and integrity. They play a vital role in the health of our bones; for calcium to be effectively incorporated into the skeletal structure, at least 50% of the dietary fats must be saturated. They lower Lp(a), a substance in the blood that indicates proneness to heart disease. Saturated fats are needed for proper utilization of essential fatty acids; elongated omega-3 fatty acids are better retained in the tissues when the diet is rich in saturated fats. Saturated fats are also a rich source of Vitamins A and D.

    Short and medium chain saturated fatty acids have important anti-microbial properties, which help protect us against harmful microorganisms in the digestive track. Today as we are rampant with problems of digestive dysbiosis and parasite infection; it is one the most common issues that I see in my clients. Consistently, I find that athletes or people trying to recover from injury do not respond to exercise nor a high grade organic diet because they have parasite infections. I am of the belief that if more people ate quality fats from sources such as organic animals and organic coconut oils, we would not have such these problems with parasites and dysbiosis.

    Mary Enig PhD, a renowned researcher on fats, points out that the scientific evidence does not support the assertion that “artery-clogging” saturated fats cause heart disease. Actually, evaluation of the fats in artery clogs reveals that only about 26% of those clots are made of saturated fats. The rest are unsaturated, of which more than half is polyunsaturated – the stuff that is supposed to be good for us! "


    http://www.enhancedfp.com/nutrition/fats-and-oils-paul-chek
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    Jun 18, 2017 6:52 PM GMT
    BTW, I'll throw this in: years ago I saw a documentary series by Desmond Morris (author of "The Naked Ape"), where he attempted to address our human evolution.

    He observed, in a very persuasive way with video, how most human sports, and especially team sports, are developed from chasing and killing game prey. Humans have remarkable aiming abilities with weapons. In the Army we were taught "quick fire" techniques. The premise being that we have inate aiming abilities, even quickly under stress. One term we heard was "point & shoot". Like some kind of instinct.

    Most games with balls, Morris postulated, were based on hunting small game. Especially with team sports. Like soccer. Watch a soccer game, and imagine the ball is some prey animal, and the teams are instead a pack of hunting humans, like a wolf pack, chasing down game.

    Most of our sports can be related to aiming and chasing skills, or in other ways related to hunting. Also of course the early organized Olympic games were connected to military skills, that remained akin to hunting methods.

    Regarding this topic thread, early humans are traditionally known as hunters & gatherers. We ate what we could kill, and could find. That diet content was largely determined by our geographic locale. You ate fish & seafood by the water, and killed whatever game was easy if you lived further inland. But if Morris is correct, we all had ancestors who chased some game.

    At the same time, I must observe that a diet based on available resources does not make it healthy. Even if some groups of us did evolve to optimize those localized diets.

    Lifespans were once much shorter, because of harsh living conditions. The dietary problems we're mostly discussing here primarily occur at an advanced age that earlier humans likely never saw. And so therefore evolutionary forces were not as strongly affecting our adaptations to certain diets, at least in terms of producing extended lifespans. And of course in the pure Darwinian model, once we pass the age for bearing offspring, we are no longer confering our genes to another generation, and so our evolutionary value & impact greatly diminishes, no matter how old we may live.

    Today our ancestors' age scale is changed for ourselves. We'd like to live to be 100, or something near it. But our bodies, and traditional diets, are not optimized for it. Therefore we do need to consider these dietary factors that prolong life, and those that shorten life. Factors that diidn't meaningfully prolong or shorten the lives of our distant ancestors, because they never got that far, whether meat eaters or whatever. But they can prolong or shorten ours, enough for them to be of significance to us today.
  • Element1313

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    Jun 19, 2017 7:51 AM GMT
    Now that the saturated fat myth has been busted here, it needs a new ignorant population to make obese.

    I consume all the saturated natural fat I can. Our bodies are designed to burn fat not sugar.

    metta saidCoconut oil 'as unhealthy as beef fat and butter'


    http://www.bbc.com/news/health-40300145
  • roadbikeRob

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    Aug 08, 2017 8:23 PM GMT
    2bnaked saidModeration!!

    Coconut Oil has some very healthy and holistic benefits. To much of a good thing can be not really good.
    Fats are better in general than all the processed carbs.....Just moderation!!
    +1
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    Aug 08, 2017 9:28 PM GMT
    What no butter.
    I'm here for a good time, not a long time.
  • MuchoMasQueMu...

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    Aug 09, 2017 12:37 AM GMT
    I remember reading once that any type of fat for consumption that remains a solid at room temperature is not something you want to overindulge in. I think it's fine to have a few pats of butter a day and I do likes me some coconut butter. Coconut butter is not the same as coconut oil as it actually has some of the actual coconut 'meat' blended into the coconut oil. It's creamier and almost mimics the texture of butter. Plus, I think it actually tastes delicious. I can spoon out a couple of tablespoons and eat it all by itself.

    I think there is something to be said about all of the processed carbs humans eat and their correlation to heart disease. I think this is more of a concern than the consumption of saturated fats.

    Also, people today eat way too much. We eat more than we did just sixty years ago. It's not only what you eat but the overindulgence and consuming way too many calories (and from processed sources of food).