Wilton Manors, Florida, Stonewall Gay Pride

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    Jun 18, 2017 12:15 AM GMT
    Today is our Wilton Manors Gay Pride. I attended alone, my husband a bit under the weather. But he wanted me to go, "show the flag", let him know what went on at the street fair and clubs. Said hello to tons of our friends.

    But I only stayed until 4:30, just as the parade was about to start. If you've seen one parade you've seen them all. And one or both of us have marched or ridden in this or other pride parades many times, in my case in other States, too.

    I didn't want to leave him alone for too long, and was phoning every hour to make sure he was OK. Without him I left the car at home, impossible parking, instead rode my bike. Under 10 minutes, could lock the bike right on the main drag's sidewalk for free.

    I took some snapshots, here are some samples:

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    This is our entire Wilton Manors City Commission with the Parade Grand Marshall, Sharon Gless, wearing pink. She's extremely gay supportive. Last time I chatted with her she was receiving an award for her LGBT contributions, along with fellow actor and gay activist George Takei, and his huband, Brad Altman Takei. The entire Commission is gay with 1 exception, and he and his charming wife are often more pro-gay in their stances than some of the avowed gay commissioners are.

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    Here's Sharon Gless addressing the crowd from the stage. Gless starred in the TV police drama "Cagney & Lacey", and won TV Emmy and Golden Globe awards, along with many others honors. She also starred in the several TV seasons of the US version of "Queer as Folk". To the left is Congresswoman Debbie Wasserman-Schultz, who had just completed her own remarks. She almost always attends our Pride.

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    I waved to Debbie from the first row. Whether she recognized & remembered me I don't know (my huband & I had a quick sit-down indoor meal with her I hastily arranged following another WM Pride Parade a few years ago, have also met her at political functions), but she eagerly waved & pointed, loved my baseball cap. The one from HRC that says "Make America Gay Again". That's when she spun around and flashed her T-shirt, to crowd applause, long enough for me to snap it. I think I may send her an HRC MAGA cap as a gift.

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    In fact, here she is at the 2008 Wilton Manors Pride, when she was our Congressional Representative. Something the Republican Florida legislature subsequently gerrymandered away, to (unsuccessfully) weaken her voter strength. But she still attends our Prides. I was up on stage, but had to lean way back against an equipment van to get the shot I wanted.

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    To give you an idea of the security we had. Started last year, following the Pulse Massacre. The white expandable truck to the right is a Broward County Mobile Command Center. The black expandable truck to the left is a survailance center. I understand about 60 TV cameras were posted all around us, that fed into that center.

    You notice the weighted barricades, to prevent suicide vehicle rammers, like have been seen in Europe. These barricades were on all the side streets. Along with parked police cruisers with officers alongside. Police were on rooftops. Also horse-mounted police, motor cops (motorcycles), and some on bicycles.

    And yet you didn't feel hemmed-in. The police you saw were mostly hatless and dressed in daily police garb, no SWAT uniforms & equipment stuff. The bicycle cops wore shorts. But I understand there were heavily armed SWAT teams positioned nearby but out of sight, ready to quickly deploy if needed. This was a well-behaved celebration, not a street riot. These precautions were against the crazy Right Wingers and other terrorists.

    You'll also see 3 canopies in the foreground of the pic. From right to left: Broward County Sheriff's Office; Wilton Manors PD; and Fort Lauderdale PD. They were all recruiting employment applicants from the LGBT community! And a good number of LGBT already openly serve on those police forces. We're in a viciously homophobic Red State, but many local communities refuse to comply with Republican bigotry and hatred.
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    Jun 18, 2017 12:36 AM GMT
    Very nice. Had I known, I might have gone! We could've toured the town.
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    Jun 18, 2017 12:41 AM GMT
    eagermuscle said
    Very nice. Had I known, I might have gone! We could've toured the town.

    Damn, I thought I had posted here about it. Mentioning that it was this weekend in WM, earlier than the historical dates of the Stonewall Riots because of how the weekends fall this year. And cities try not to conflict with each other. Some Prides have already been held.

    You certainly would have been my welcome guest. Let's see what our next year's Stonewall Pride calendar dates are, when announced.
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    Jun 18, 2017 12:47 AM GMT
    art_deco said
    To the left is Congresswoman Debbie Wasser-Schultz, who had just completed her own remarks. She almost always attends our Pride.

    I waved to Debbie from the first row. Whether she recognized & remembered me I don't know (my huband & I had a quick sit-down indoor meal with her I hastily arranged following another WM Pride Parade a few years ago, have also met her at political functions), but she eagerly waved & pointed, loved my baseball cap. The one from HRC that says "Make America Gay Again". That's when she spun around and flashed her T-shirt, to crowd applause, long enough for me to snap it. I think I may send her an HRC MAGA cap as a gift.


    Debbie Wasserman Schultz? The person who rigged the primaries against Bernie Sanders?

    The person who is being sued for fraud?

    The person who is the target of a class action lawsuit for failing to pay $1 million to DNC staffers for overtime during the 2016 elections?

    That woman epitomizes the Democratic party and why it should be outlawed. I hope this is among her last public appearances and she will soon be rotting in jail.


    art_deco said
    We're in a viciously homophobic Red State, but many local communities refuse to comply with Republican bigotry and hatred.


    I truly wish what you wrote is true and that Florida actually was "a viciously homophobic Red State" so that you could experience the hatred against gays that you are manufacturing and apparently so desperately crave. I grew up in Florida and lived 10 miles from my hometown of Fort Myers until 2015. You are LYING when you say it is a "viciously homophobic Red State."
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    Jun 18, 2017 1:18 AM GMT
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    I grew up in Florida and lived 10 miles from my hometown of Fort Myers until 2015. You are LYING when you say it is a "viciously homophobic Red State."

    You left Florida to live in gawd-awful Carbondale, Pennsylvania? To work for their highway department? You better be in senior position. Otherwise I can't imagine why you would throw your life away doing that, in miserable weather and road conditions. icon_question.gif You gotta remember I've lived a long time now, and traveled extensively all over the US. I know these places.

    As far as MY lying, let's look at Florida at the State level, which was my contention, versus local community pockets. Florida Attorney General Pam Bondi (perhaps you voted for her), fought a Quixotic battle against same-sex marriage, refusing to accept the rulings of the courts. And current Governor Rick Scott backed her up. While not a peep from the Republican legislature.

    Wasting millions of Florida taxpayer dollars in the process. Only the US Supreme Court shut her down, and even then she dragged her feet on implimentation. Florida has also fought against adoption by same-sex couples, but the courts have again prevailed, at least for the moment.

    It's also a State that refuses to pass LGBT protections. Meaning that it's legal to fire employees for being gay, and landlords can evict tenants for the same reason. In fact, gay Floridians have very few civil rights that straights have. Classic second-class citizenship situation.

    Now please give us your own examples of why Florida is a gay-friendly State. Does that your contention also apply to the Panhandle, or the northern half of the State? Did Florida not overwhelming pass a State Constitutional Amendment outlawing same-sex marriage?

    That happened back when you claimed you still lived here. It also wouldn't surprise me if you voted for it, assuming any of your dubious claims of where you've lived are true. Remember the successful Anita Bryant 1970s campaign here, that got anti-LGBT State legislation laws passed? That have yet to be fully repealed.
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    Jun 18, 2017 3:51 AM GMT
    Hope u supported your Tribe Bob & waved you Bi Pride Flag vigorously .
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    Jun 18, 2017 4:14 AM GMT
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    Hope u supported your Tribe Bob & waved you Bi Pride Flag vigorously .

    My tribe? Sounds like you're a non-gay outsider. Actually you always have behaved that way. Trying too hard to pretend to be RJ's "Bona Fide Homosexual" that you insist you are. A status that few others here can achieve.

    Ever notice, no one else here does that? "Methinks he doth protest too much."

    As for Pride, I waved no flag. Didn't need to. My T-shirt and baseball cap were enough of a statement. Congresswoman Wasserman-Schultz noticed it easily enough. And I got many other compliments.

    Although one guy did approach me angrily. "You're a Trump supporter??? What are you doing here???" "Please read it again." I replied, pointing to the words.

    "Oh." And he scurried away, I think embarrased.

    Maybe it's time for you to scurry away, too.
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    Jun 18, 2017 4:58 AM GMT
    In any case, in spite of the usual gay haters here trying to derail an upbeat gay post, I had a great time! I love being gay, and I love celebrating being gay.

    As I mentioned in another thread, there was a very well-known gay community member dying the very morning of our Saturday Pride. It was difficult for me to celebrate too much. And skipped the parade.

    Plus I had an ailing husband at home, who insisted I attend alone, to get all the news. I hate to go anywhere without him, and rarely do. Unless I slip away when he's sleeping, or make some lame excuse, when I'm actually buying him surprise presents. That's where online shopping with UPS or FedEx delivery really changes things.

    So long as he doesn't see the delivery at the door, and asks questions I gotta answer. For that reason I try to have the shipper send to our local UPS store. Where the manager is a gay friend of ours. He phones me privately, and I try to sneak over there, just a few blocks away. He'll keep the package for a week or more if I need.

    That way I can totally surprise my husband. I usually succeed. I love giving completely unexpected gifts to my dearest. Don't you?
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    Jun 18, 2017 12:30 PM GMT
    wow nice.
  • Plooje

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    Jun 18, 2017 3:37 PM GMT
    Stop attacking someone for working for the highway department.
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    Jun 18, 2017 3:39 PM GMT
    art_deco said
    PennsyGuy said
    I grew up in Florida and lived 10 miles from my hometown of Fort Myers until 2015. You are LYING when you say it is a "viciously homophobic Red State."

    You left Florida to live in gawd-awful Carbondale, Pennsylvania? To work for their highway department? You better be in senior position. Otherwise I can't imagine why you would throw your life away doing that, in miserable weather and road conditions. You gotta remember I've lived a long time now, and traveled extensively all over the US. I know these places.

    As far as MY lying, let's look at Florida at the State level, which was my contention, versus local community pockets. Florida Attorney General Pam Bondi (perhaps you voted for her), fought a Quixotic battle against same-sex marriage, refusing to accept the rulings of the courts. And current Governor Rick Scott backed her up. While not a peep from the Republican legislature.

    Wasting millions of Florida taxpayer dollars in the process. Only the US Supreme Court shut her down, and even then she dragged her feet on implimentation. Florida has also fought against adoption by same-sex couples, but the courts have again prevailed, at least for the moment.

    It's also a State that refuses to pass LGBT protections. Meaning that it's legal to fire employees for being gay, and landlords can evict tenants for the same reason. In fact, gay Floridians have very few civil rights that straights have. Classic second-class citizenship situation.

    Now please give us your own examples of why Florida is a gay-friendly State. Does that your contention also apply to the Panhandle, or the northern half of the State? Did Florida not overwhelming pass a State Constitutional Amendment outlawing same-sex marriage?

    That happened back when you claimed you still lived here. It also wouldn't surprise me if you voted for it, assuming any of your dubious claims of where you've lived are true. Remember the successful Anita Bryant 1970s campaign here, that got anti-LGBT State legislation laws passed? That have yet to be fully repealed.


    What is so " gawd-awful" about "Carbondale" you judgmental snob? I like it here. We have 4 distinct seasons, beautiful scenery.

    And my job with the highway department is too "low class" for you? Think about that next time you drive around your "superior" town. Without those of us who work in the highway department, you would have to walk.

    Florida, like all the other 49 states, is a welcoming state for all. Gays are not rounded up and there is no scheduled weekly "Saturday afternoon hunt" for gays. So stop with all the manufactured drama and LIES.
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    Jun 18, 2017 4:13 PM GMT
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    Debbie Wasserman Schultz? The person who rigged the primaries against Bernie Sanders?


    Yep, that was her. Someone call the "Fashion Police" STAT! Is it just me or does her hair always look like she just got out of a pool?
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    PennsyGuy said
    Debbie Wasserman Schultz? The person who rigged the primaries against Bernie Sanders?

    Yep, that was her. Someone call the "Fashion Police" STAT! Is it just me or does her hair always look like she just got out of a pool?

    How petty you Repugnants have become. Before you criticize Debbie's hair, which is naturally curly, how about you talk about your Donald's internationally laughable "do"? And its artificial dyed color? Trump's transformation from brunette to weird off-orange was unnaturally inhuman. Not to mention his fake skin tan.

    Debbie was dressed colorfully for Pride, a special festive occasion. It was done to honor us. Something I presume you've never seen, nor would support. But the rest of gays do it at times, too. I didn't realize you were such a conservative fashion Nazi.
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    Jun 18, 2017 5:24 PM GMT
    And as long as we're on the topic of clothing styles, let's review my first pic:

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    I don't imagine any of the Wilton Manors City Commission would pass your appraisal. The big guy on the left in the white shirt, looking like he just came from a BBQ, is a past WM Mayor. He's the only straight one, but as dedicated to gay interests as anyone. A lifetime Wilton Manors resident, and a local business owner.

    In the blue shirt is the current Mayor. Not too stylish, either. OMG, those things on his feet! We think this will be his last term. Next is Sharon Gless. For a lady of 74 she does know how to dress for the occasion, typical of major stars.

    Next in the black shirt is our young Vice-Mayor. We hope he'll become our new Mayor at the next election. We contribute to his campaigns (actually to all of them).

    In the gay cape (how gauche, right CJAZ?) is our only Lesbian Commissioner. She didn't want to run for office again, but I spoke with her numerous times, and she relented and was reelected again. I'm sure it wasn't just my sole influence, maybe just a small part of the persuasion she received.

    Finally in the green shirt is another Commisioner. He always wears green at public functions, because of his last name. We have meals and drinks with him and his husband quite often.

    A rather motley crew, wouldn't you say? But they dress to their Florida audience, and the occasion. Give Debbie credit for having the sense to do the same.
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    Jun 18, 2017 5:33 PM GMT
    art_deco saidI didn't realize you were such a conservative fashion Nazi.



    Okay, admittedly, I was being petty. I just loathe the woman, so I guess I couldn't help myself. In interest of equal opportunity offending --- I hate Trump's hairdo too.
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    Jun 18, 2017 5:37 PM GMT
    art_deco saidAnd as long as we're on the topic of clothing styles, let's review my first pic:

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    <span style=In the blue shirt is the current Mayor. Not too stylish, either. OMG, those things on his feet!">





    I was going to comment on the horror show that is your mayor's shoe choice (and with socks no less) but I held back. But since YOU mentioned it icon_lol.gificon_lol.gif
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    Jun 18, 2017 5:42 PM GMT
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    art_deco said
    I didn't realize you were such a conservative fashion Nazi.

    Okay, admittedly, I was being petty. I just loathe the woman, so I guess I couldn't help myself. In interest of equal opportunity offending --- I hate Trump's hairdo too.

    OK, I'll close that topic with you.
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    Jun 18, 2017 5:52 PM GMT
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    art_deco saidI didn't realize you were such a conservative fashion Nazi.


    Fashionesta!!! A nicer gay word....dec

    Okay, admittedly, I was being petty. I just loathe the woman, so I guess I couldn't help myself. In interest of equal opportunity offending --- I hate Trump's hairdo too.


    I bet if you called Joan Rivers a fashion Nazi she would really offer you some choice words. How come we can't be critical of her [Little Debbie lol] ? She really looks awful and why would gay people parade her around like she's there to reunite the democrat party? LOL NOT!

    Why the dbl standards dec? You spew out all kinds of vile shit and we never give reference to you as a NAZI. That's actually a very low thing of you to say to any of us here. I mean after all considering what HITLER actually did. That's just a shitty choice of a word! Try to have a little more RESPECT for a change. You're just fostering MORE of the left's hatred!

    Gay people have critical eyes. WE see and know what looks and what doesn't. Did you see the big campaign that Dolce & Gabbana have out because The first lady likes to wear their designs-clothes. They started their own #BOYCOTTDOLCEGABBANA and going to make money off of it now!! LOL way to go boys!!!
    https://www.instagram.com/stefanogabbana/
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    Jun 18, 2017 6:07 PM GMT
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    Why the dbl standards dec? You spew out all kinds of vile shit and we never give reference to you as a NAZI. That's actually a very low thing of you to say to any of us here. I mean after all considering what HITLER actually did. That's just a shitty choice of a word! Try to have a little more RESPECT for a change. You're just fostering MORE of the left's hatred!

    The term "Soup Nazi" was popularized by a very successful US TV sitcom. Since then we use the term for many things, when we think people are being overly critical of something. Have you never heard of a "Spelling Nazi" or a "Grammar Nazi" online?

    Lighten up. Or else we might think you're a Politically Correct Nazi. icon_wink.gif

    Or maybe just a plain jerk.
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    Jun 18, 2017 6:21 PM GMT
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    Why the dbl standards dec? You spew out all kinds of vile shit and we never give reference to you as a NAZI. That's actually a very low thing of you to say to any of us here. I mean after all considering what HITLER actually did. That's just a shitty choice of a word! Try to have a little more RESPECT for a change. You're just fostering MORE of the left's hatred!

    The term "Soup Nazi" was popularized by a very successful US TV sitcom. Since then we use the term for many things, when we think people are being overly critical of something. Have you never heard of a "Spelling Nazi" or a "Grammar Nazi" online?

    Lighten up. Or else we might think you're a Politically Correct Nazi. icon_wink.gif

    Or maybe just a plain jerk.


    Dec, if you call names I will call you an asshole back and you deserve it. WE ALL KNOW WHAT YOU MEANT BY NAZI!! You're just a bitter, mean spirited queen with zero tolerance for other people's views-UNLESS YOU AGREE WITH THEM or THEY AGREE WITH YOU----who lives in a morbid gay retirement village. So stop!

    AGAIN, NO CLASSY PERSON WOULD USE THAT WORD. ASK JOAN RIVERS---FOOL
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    Jun 18, 2017 7:15 PM GMT
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    Dec, if you call names I will call you an asshole back and you deserve it. WE ALL KNOW WHAT YOU MEANT BY NAZI!! You're just a bitter, mean spirited queen with zero tolerance for other people's views-UNLESS YOU AGREE WITH THEM or THEY AGREE WITH YOU----who lives in a morbid gay retirement village. So stop!

    AGAIN, NO CLASSY PERSON WOULD USE THAT WORD. ASK JOAN RIVERS---FOOL

    I return what I'm given. Give back what I get. Sorry if some bullies can't take their own medicine.

    And if your posts are any example of what you call "class", then I'm glad to be termed déclassé within that hateful, ugly universe you inhabit, and demonstrate here. While you try to derail a story about gay celebration & community happiness. Something that's obviously poison to you, that you are determined to destroy.
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    Jun 18, 2017 7:16 PM GMT
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    2bnaked said
    Why the dbl standards dec? You spew out all kinds of vile shit and we never give reference to you as a NAZI. That's actually a very low thing of you to say to any of us here. I mean after all considering what HITLER actually did. That's just a shitty choice of a word! Try to have a little more RESPECT for a change. You're just fostering MORE of the left's hatred!

    The term "Soup Nazi" was popularized by a very successful US TV sitcom. Since then we use the term for many things, when we think people are being overly critical of something. Have you never heard of a "Spelling Nazi" or a "Grammar Nazi" online?

    Lighten up. Or else we might think you're a Politically Correct Nazi. icon_wink.gif

    Or maybe just a plain jerk.
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    Deco's projecting again
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    Jun 18, 2017 7:22 PM GMT
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    Deco's projecting again

    No, I just like turning the tables on social media bullies. You wanna insult & bully me? Then don't whine like a delicate snowflake when I return the favor.
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    Dec, if you call names I will call you an asshole back and you deserve it. WE ALL KNOW WHAT YOU MEANT BY NAZI!! You're just a bitter, mean spirited queen with zero tolerance for other people's views-UNLESS YOU AGREE WITH THEM or THEY AGREE WITH YOU----who lives in a morbid gay retirement village. So stop!

    AGAIN, NO CLASSY PERSON WOULD USE THAT WORD. ASK JOAN RIVERS---FOOL

    I return what I'm given. Give back what I get. Sorry if some bullies can't take their own medicine.

    And if your posts are any example of what you call "class", then I'm glad to be termed déclassé within that hateful, ugly universe you inhabit, and demonstrate here. While you try to derail a story about gay celebration & community happiness. Something that's obviously poison to you, that you are determined to destroy.


    See what I mean about vile.....Classy....I point out what the left hates to hear and that includes you . The silly sympathy story deserved to be spoofed. I mean you like that kathy Griffeth stuff right??? SO see, because someone turned the tables on you and offered a different view you get all Butt hurt!! LOL
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    Jun 18, 2017 7:37 PM GMT
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    Hope u supported your Tribe Bob & waved you Bi Pride Flag vigorously .

    My tribe? Sounds like you're a non-gay outsider. Actually you always have behaved that way. Trying too hard to pretend to be RJ's "Bona Fide Homosexual" that you insist you are. A status that few others here can achieve.

    Ever notice, no one else here does that? "Methinks he doth protest too much."

    As for Pride, I waved no flag. Didn't need to. My T-shirt and baseball cap were enough of a statement. Congresswoman Wasserman-Schultz noticed it easily enough. And I got many other compliments.

    Although one guy did approach me angrily. "You're a Trump supporter??? What are you doing here???" "Please read it again." I replied, pointing to the words.

    "Oh." And he scurried away, I think embarrased.

    Maybe it's time for you to scurry away, too.


    Poor, poor Deco. Unlike you half brother. I've been a homosexual my whole life, and lived it too unlike you.
    Thus one doesn't need to be a try hard like you, old chap. But since you never did the walk, don't expect you to understand the talk, not being born one of us.

    I've no lost time to make up for. Nor do I need to be a try hard like you mate. Because I've never spent a day being a married hetrosexual breeder, let alone, half of my life. Yet us Bona Fide Homosexuals, take nothing from you mate, as you try to do to us mate.

    The wonderful news is. RJ, and the world is full of us "Bona Fide Homosexuals."
    Men born without the ability or will to root Sheilas! Unlike you mate, who had a number of wives, and produced children the hetrosexual way, and not the gay way icon_redface.gif all I've ever had is boyfriends and a husband.
    Sorry mate it's not my fault you'll never be Bona Fide. But a bisexual, living the gay lifestyel, as you once live the hetrosexual one, for over half your life, old chap.
    Have a good one mate, it's not a bad thing to be bisexual, it's simply not homosexual, or hetrosexual.