Comments About Gays Cost Lawmaker His Chairmanship

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    Feb 20, 2009 7:58 PM GMT

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    Feb 21, 2009 2:41 AM GMT
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    Nothing imbeded.
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    Feb 21, 2009 3:46 AM GMT
    I got through fine.

    ....oh gosh, I hope that isn't happening, are we becoming an overly pc subject? If so, that could hurt us more than help us. Personal opinion, we are an issue and the only way to deal with issues are to discuss them openly and honestly. As we've learned from the forum here, open honesty can inflame the passions and unearth a little extra like sarcassm or a splash of vitriol....doesn't negate the worth of the statement. Especially if it leads to more discussion. Often when political correctness is envolved, openess and honesty is fettered and penalized, which retards the possibility of resolving major issues through concentrated discussion.

    I see it here and saw it in this situation with Buttars: he said something people didn't like and instead of support why they disagree with him, they just seemed content to state that they disagree....why?

    I'd rather question someone with an opposing viewpoint about why they feel that way instead of just chastising them or punishing them for feeling that way.

    Really, I initially found what Butters said, some what interesting. I'd love to know why he feels that way. Ofcourse, he's been essentially "shut up" now, so I'll never know.

    I take the same approach on here. I mostly always ask why...instead of just stating this person is a bigot or a hater. For example, on the recent masc/fem issue, I stated that some of the respondants are self haters, but I explained it to death why I think they are. See, I know that some people are not bigots and haters, but rather, just ignorant. They may never hear a opposing viewpoint that could change their mind if they just get shut down and no discussion results from it.
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    Feb 22, 2009 4:26 AM GMT
    I'm glad you posted this !!! the thing that suprised me about it is that it was his fellow republicans who pushed him out. from what i read he has so disgusted them (his fellow republicans) that this was the last straw. Usually a person who exhibits such hate has a reason behind it??? more often than not they are hiding something like Larry Craig was by his verbalizing dislike about gays.
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    Feb 22, 2009 4:39 AM GMT
    Here's the link to the story and vid...

    http://www.ksl.com/index.php?nid=148&sid=5644436