I sat through weeks of impeachment proceedings against Richard Nixon. Forty-plus years later, I see the makings of another case.

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    Oct 10, 2017 4:50 PM GMT
    The Case For Impeaching Donald Trump is Real and Serious. Here’s Why.

    Having sat through weeks of deliberation by the House Judiciary Committee when it considered the impeachment of Nixon, and having kept up with the subject ever since, including talking to constitutional scholars, I believe that there are valid charges to be brought.

    A critical principle adopted in Nixon’s in-effect impeachment that could also be applied to Trump was, to my mind, the most significant adaptation of the impeachment power by the House Judiciary Committee. Article II listed a number of “abuses of power” committed by Nixon himself or through his subordinates – including wiretapping, use of the IRS against Nixon’s “enemies;” the break-ins of the Democratic National Committee headquarters at the Watergate and, far more menacing, into the office of the psychiatrist of Daniel Ellsberg, who had leaked the Pentagon Papers. The drafters were interested in looking for a “pattern or practice” of a certain kind of behavior.

    Thus the drafters of Article II significantly broadened the scope of impeachable offenses by holding the president accountable for the acts of his subordinates. Under this principle, winking and nodding but not saying anything incriminating (or caught on tape), wouldn’t exempt a president from responsibility for their acts. Thus the answer to the persistent question, Did Nixon know ahead of time about the Watergate break-in? is, ‘It doesn’t matter.’ He gave enough signals to his subordinates that he wanted to “get the goods” on Lawrence O’Brien, the then chairman of the DNC.

    Thus, even if Trump’s hand isn’t found in any proven collusion by his campaign aides or associates with associates of Vladimir Putin, or even Putin himself, Trump himself could be impeached for collusion.


    https://www.thedailybeast.com/the-case-for-impeaching-donald-trump-is-real-and-serious-heres-why
  • CuriousJockAZ

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    Oct 10, 2017 4:57 PM GMT
    This is absurd wishful thinking and sheer idiocy. NEVER GONNA HAPPEN! But keep dreaming icon_lol.gificon_lol.gificon_lol.gif
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    Oct 10, 2017 5:06 PM GMT
    CuriousJockAZ saidThis is absurd wishful thinking and sheer idiocy. NEVER GONNA HAPPEN! But keep dreaming icon_lol.gificon_lol.gificon_lol.gif


    It's quite a long article (I just posted an excerpt), but you appear to have read it and fully considered its contents in under 7 minutes (assuming you read it as soon as it was posted - and including typing your response). I'm impressed!
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    Oct 10, 2017 5:43 PM GMT
    I confess that I'm rather enjoying this circus of Trump's presidency. He's still sniping at Corker and Tillerson; gotta love it. Pence's presidency will be boring compared to Trump's.

    The 2018 elections will be interesting. Hopefully they'll hold off impeaching him until afterwards.
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    Oct 10, 2017 10:24 PM GMT
    I was a US Army Lieutenant when all this Nixon drama was happening. Already a 4-year veteran with enlisted service, I was taking an Officer's course, that included a number of foreign Officers.

    Who were appalled at this turmoil in our government. Spiro Agnew resigned as Vice President, an unprecedented action in US history, that undermined our image of stability & strength. Allied Officers knocked at my quarters door to offer their sympathy & support. icon_exclaim.gif

    It was astonishing to me how much the US was a model to the world, how much we meant to them. And how much an upheaval like this disturbed foreign peoples. Those Officers were following the US Senate Watergate hearings on US TV, and I think it upset them more than it did me. Their image of US political stability was collapsing before their eyes.

    Our course ended and we all said goodbye before Nixon's resignation in August, 1974. I can only imagine what a depressing shock that must have been to them. I used to help translate for a couple of French-speaking Cambodian Officers, who returned to their country. Just before Pol Pot seized control and the Killing Fields began. I will always wonder what happened to them, but kinda know.

    And now we have the moron Donnie Dotard in the White House. The world's laughing stock. Easy to read the international news media online, if you can get your nose out of the ass crack of Fox News and Breitbart. Donnie and our country have become an international joke, we're no longer respected & admired, like we were in 1973, even despite Vietnam.
  • daveindenver

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    Oct 11, 2017 5:50 PM GMT

    Elect a Clown...........
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    Expect a Circus.
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    Oct 11, 2017 7:23 PM GMT
    daveindenver said
    Elect a Clown...........
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    Expect a Circus.

    Thank Goodness, President Trump was able to knock Hillary Rotten Clinton, off her political perch.
    Thus saving the Circus of The Clinton's, back in the WH.
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    Oct 11, 2017 10:39 PM GMT
    daveindenver said
    Elect a Clown...........
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    Expect a Circus.

    +1
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    Oct 12, 2017 1:09 PM GMT
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    Oct 12, 2017 1:18 PM GMT
    art_deco said
    daveindenver said
    Elect a Clown...........
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    +1

    Thanks for all the laughter, you clowns.
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    Oct 12, 2017 1:50 PM GMT
    The joke is on you Liberals since Mark Zuckerburg got Trump elected:

    https://www.cbsnews.com/news/facebook-embeds-russia-and-the-trump-campaigns-secret-weapon/