Anyone Have a 'Nest' WiFi Home Thermostat?

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    Oct 10, 2017 8:19 PM GMT
    I shoulda asked this question here before buying one. We were in Homo Depot today getting more plants for our patio, following a record hot summer that killed some, and others wilted after being brought inside for days ahead of hurricane Irma. Plus we lost many to a ravenous iquana invasion, whose numbers an exterminator seems to have gotten under control the last 2 weeks.

    I had been wanting a new thermostat for some time, preferably something like a Nest that communicates via Wifi & Internet to an iPhone app. Well, there it was on a shelf, and I couldn't resist an impulse purchase. While he was outside buying out half their garden shop. icon_razz.gif

    I'm gonna try to install it myself tomorrow, too late today. Seems pretty straightforward, IF our wiring matches what the Nest requires. Otherwise I'll have our AC guy make the wiring happen.

    I really like its capabilities, and our old thermostat is a programing nightmare, it hadda go. Does anyone here have any experience with these? Some tips or other thoughts? I'll attempt the installation tomorrow (Wed).
  • GoodPup

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    Oct 11, 2017 12:06 AM GMT
    The house I rent in at Palm Springs has one... just got the email today showing how much e edgy I save in September from August. I like the settings on it and I think I only use a small portion of it.
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    Oct 11, 2017 12:49 AM GMT
    GoodPup said
    The house I rent in at Palm Springs has one... just got the email today showing how much e edgy I save in September from August. I like the settings on it and I think I only use a small portion of it.

    Sometimes those things are overkill, providing everything in the world, but little that many of us regularly use in the real world.

    BTW, are you staying in PS for long? We have a number of friends who'll put us up with them, want us there soon. But with another trip elsewhere already planned for November, and then we get into Christmas, I think we wouldn't consider PS until early next year at the earliest.

    If you know the Alibi there, the owner is one of those friends. Perhaps you know him and his husband. It would be great meeting you. I could PE you if we decide to fly out.
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    Oct 11, 2017 4:48 PM GMT
    Installed the Nest, went very smoothly. My biggest concern was that the wires match the codes on the Nest installation, since I wasn’t sure how old the other thermostat was. Although the central AC was replaced about 3 years ago. But all the wire codes were exactly as the instructions said, so that was a snap

    The wall mounting was easy, too. The base plate comes with a built-in bubble level! Nest even gives you a lovely double-headed screwdriver, that I’ll be keeping in the toolbox. A rather well thought-out kit.

    Everything works as advertised. And the app for our iPhones/iPads installed easily, that includes an app for our Apple Watches, as well. Much easier interface than what it replaced, I put our weekly temperature setback routine into it under 3 minutes. The old unit could take me half an hour. It can also learn your routine, but at present we have an irregular daily schedule, so I’m not using that feature at present.

    But I do like that it knows when we leave our condo, based on iPhone location info, and goes into an Eco mode automatically. AC is our biggest energy consumer here in Florida, and if we can save money with better setbacks and this Eco mode then this thing will have paid for itself in a little over a year, in my estimation. We’ll see.

    If you’ve been considering one of this smart thermostats I recommend you look at the Nest. And now there are others out there. But I really think this one is both esthetically elegant in its simplicity, combined with intuitive operation. I told my husband all he has to do change the temp is turn the outer bezel and watch the temp numbers, easier than an old Honeywell thermostat from 30 years ago. You shouldn’t need to have the operator’s manual standing nearby at all times.
  • Destinharbor

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    Oct 11, 2017 5:54 PM GMT
    I've got one-- had it about two years. Works great except it does have a mind of its own. It is supposed to learn but ours is in an upstairs hall and if we are downstairs for extended periods it thinks we're away and goes eco. Sometimes, too, it will just drop the temperature setting down about three degrees for no apparent reason and you suddenly realize you're cold. or raises it. But being able to pick up the phone and see and change the temp from the living room any time is great. Great when you travel, too. Take it to eco but adjust it on the maids' day or times when a dog-sitter is coming in even if we're half way around the world is kind of unbelievable. Next I want an oven that's wifi so I can preheat it from the gym or cook something or turn it off from away. Or simply change the temp from my chair.
  • carew28

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    Oct 11, 2017 7:40 PM GMT
    It's ironic that you guys down in Florida are buying new potted plants to put outside on your patio right about now. I just finished bringing my houseplants indoors this past Columbus Day weekend, due to impending frost anytime now, and although right now the weather is still unseasonably warm, it's better to be safe than sorry. Spending the summer out in my backyard does them good, but the leaves are changing color now, they'll be falling shortly, and the cold weather will be here soon. I was at Homo Depot's Garden Dept. a few weeks ago just passing time, and they actually have a pretty good selection of ornamental trees, shrubs, and perennials for Fall planting, as well as daffodils, tulips, & all kinds of Fall bulbs.
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    Oct 11, 2017 9:46 PM GMT
    carew28 said
    It's ironic that you guys down in Florida are buying new potted plants to put outside on your patio right about now. I just finished bringing my houseplants indoors this past Columbus Day weekend, due to impending frost anytime now, and although right now the weather is still unseasonably warm, it's better to be safe than sorry. Spending the summer out in my backyard does them good, but the leaves are changing color now, they'll be falling shortly, and the cold weather will be here soon. I was at Homo Depot's Garden Dept. a few weeks ago just passing time, and they actually have a pretty good selection of ornamental trees, shrubs, and perennials for Fall planting, as well as daffodils, tulips, & all kinds of Fall bulbs.

    When I lived in West Berlin, Germany in Officer's apartment quarters, I had to go to the housing office and get my free "issue" of seasonal flowers for my provided window boxes. It was to make our 3-story building conform to the way German civilians had residential window boxes throughout the city. They wanted us to be "good neighbors".

    And I was surprised how long into the cold season these plants survived, and with weak northern latitude light, too. I guess some plants can be hardier than we realize.

    On the other hand, our problem here in South Florida is too much sun & heat. We always expect summer "casualties" with his herbs. Hence our now replacing them. Although the temps are still reaching the 90s, kinda late in the year for that.

    "Global warming? What global warming? Fake news! A Liberal plot! Underwritten by the Chinese! Pay no attention to those broken high temperature records! It's all fake! Or God's will. But the scientists are just lying, trust us Republican politician-meteorologists to know the truth. We get our information straight from the Bible (and what energy industry political donors tell us)." icon_rolleyes.gif
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    Oct 11, 2017 10:05 PM GMT
    Destinharbor said
    I've got one-- had it about two years. Works great except it does have a mind of its own. It is supposed to learn but ours is in an upstairs hall and if we are downstairs for extended periods it thinks we're away and goes eco. Sometimes, too, it will just drop the temperature setting down about three degrees for no apparent reason and you suddenly realize you're cold. or raises it. But being able to pick up the phone and see and change the temp from the living room any time is great. Great when you travel, too. Take it to eco but adjust it on the maids' day or times when a dog-sitter is coming in even if we're half way around the world is kind of unbelievable. Next I want an oven that's wifi so I can preheat it from the gym or cook something or turn it off from away. Or simply change the temp from my chair.

    I'll hafta watch for the glitches you've experienced. And thanks for the input. Yeah, the remote control & monitoring is what sold me. Along with the simple operation of the thing, compared to the impossible complexity of what it replaced.

    Our small condo is 1-floor, with full WiFi coverage. It shouldn't think "Elvis has left the building" no matter where I am inside our place. But sometimes I go downstairs to our community mail box, and that may fall out of range. Not sure how quickly it reacts to a lost connection, maybe one has a delayed "grace period".

    I'd add his own phone, but that may confuse it with conflicting settings. I noticed that with my iPad today, and so I removed the app. I really only intended to use it with the iPhone, anyway, which has cellular. Our iPads only have WiFi so their connectivity is limited to WiFi hotspots.

    BTW, I've got him sold on this thing. Once I showed him how all he has to do is turn the outer bezel to set a new temperature in giant bold backlit numbers, easier than the old round Honeywell mechanical thermostats, and no combinations of difficult to read up & down buttons, with tiny, dark displays like before, he became a believer.

    It's vital I don't get toys that only I can or care to use. He's gotta be pleased, too. His ease of use is always a prime consideration in my decisions, even though he gives me free reign to chose these techno things.

    Again, thanks for your comments. I'm learning about this thing, and next I may consider a WiFi smoke detector (one can never have too many detectors), and there are remotely controlled & monitored door locks, too. A goal is allowing us to monitor our place when we're away, especially on trips.

    With so many Florida homes being seasonal residences there are human vultures who watch for inactivity and then do a break-in. Plus a condo mutliplies your fire chance by the number of building residents. We've been rousted out of bed several times by careless neighbors bringing the fire department here, fortunately nothing catastrophic yet. But it happens.
  • GoodPup

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    Oct 13, 2017 3:39 PM GMT
    I just started a job out here... so I split my time between Palm Springs and OC. So I'll be out here a lot more.

    art_deco said
    GoodPup said
    The house I rent in at Palm Springs has one... just got the email today showing how much e edgy I save in September from August. I like the settings on it and I think I only use a small portion of it.

    Sometimes those things are overkill, providing everything in the world, but little that many of us regularly use in the real world.

    BTW, are you staying in PS for long? We have a number of friends who'll put us up with them, want us there soon. But with another trip elsewhere already planned for November, and then we get into Christmas, I think we wouldn't consider PS until early next year at the earliest.

    If you know the Alibi there, the owner is one of those friends. Perhaps you know him and his husband. It would be great meeting you. I could PE you if we decide to fly out.
  • GoodPup

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    Oct 13, 2017 3:42 PM GMT
    Destinharbor saidI've got one-- had it about two years. Works great except it does have a mind of its own. It is supposed to learn but ours is in an upstairs hall and if we are downstairs for extended periods it thinks we're away and goes eco. Sometimes, too, it will just drop the temperature setting down about three degrees for no apparent reason and you suddenly realize you're cold. or raises it. But being able to pick up the phone and see and change the temp from the living room any time is great. Great when you travel, too. Take it to eco but adjust it on the maids' day or times when a dog-sitter is coming in even if we're half way around the world is kind of unbelievable. Next I want an oven that's wifi so I can preheat it from the gym or cook something or turn it off from away. Or simply change the temp from my chair.


    Mine kept thinking I wasn't home and changing... then I learned my phone and each user had to have their own login on the app. I was using the homeowners login and he had it set only to his snd hisbpartbers phone. So once I got myself logged in it fixed the issue since it looks at phones to know who is home.

    I don't use cool settings much now... just the eco temp.
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    Oct 13, 2017 6:54 PM GMT
    GoodPup said
    I just started a job out here... so I split my time between Palm Springs and OC. So I'll be out here a lot more.

    I’ll mention when we’re coming out there.
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    Oct 13, 2017 7:01 PM GMT
    BTW, I know she’s there cleaning. The AC is running, and the humidity just jumped 10%. She’s got our patio door wide open. It’s a little early, but I think we might return home shortly.
  • Destinharbor

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    Oct 13, 2017 7:49 PM GMT
    GoodPup said
    Destinharbor saidI've got one-- had it about two years. Works great except it does have a mind of its own. It is supposed to learn but ours is in an upstairs hall and if we are downstairs for extended periods it thinks we're away and goes eco. Sometimes, too, it will just drop the temperature setting down about three degrees for no apparent reason and you suddenly realize you're cold. or raises it. But being able to pick up the phone and see and change the temp from the living room any time is great. Great when you travel, too. Take it to eco but adjust it on the maids' day or times when a dog-sitter is coming in even if we're half way around the world is kind of unbelievable. Next I want an oven that's wifi so I can preheat it from the gym or cook something or turn it off from away. Or simply change the temp from my chair.


    Mine kept thinking I wasn't home and changing... then I learned my phone and each user had to have their own login on the app. I was using the homeowners login and he had it set only to his snd hisbpartbers phone. So once I got myself logged in it fixed the issue since it looks at phones to know who is home.

    I don't use cool settings much now... just the eco temp.

    HEY!! Thanks, mate! I installed the Nest but my partner programmed it. He's my in-house techie and I'd never explored the settings. I found the section and made the adjustment. Hope it works! Thanks, guy!
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    Oct 13, 2017 9:34 PM GMT
    Our eco setting is 80. Any higher might stress the refrigerators and cause higher electricity costs. But that'll be just when we're away traveling.

    Today, with our cleaning lady there and working, I remotely dropped it to 76. Normal daytime temp is 77, but she works hard. In the evening I've programmed it to drop daily to 76, and at 11, our bedtime, to 75. Extremely easy to do. And if during the night he wants it even cooler he can just turn the bezel. Couldn't be simpler. Just so long as he leaves me some of the blanket! He tends to hog!

    I'm kinda the techie in our family, and he the chefie (is that a word?). I'm glad each of us can contribute something unique to our relationship, covering the whole spectrum of modern living.

    He does things I can't, and I do things he can't. Far better than if we were both chefs, for instance, battling over the kitchen. "Too many cooks spoil the soup." The kitchen is his exclusive domain, and tech stuff is mine.

    A classic example of division of labor. We're both content with that.