Any art collectors here??

  • Posted by a hidden member.
    Log in to view his profile

    Feb 22, 2009 8:45 AM GMT
    REMEMBER THE NAGEL??

    Well, the other day I told a friend that they had become very valuable. So, low and behold he found me one! I asked him to keep his eyes out and sure enough he found this for 7 bucks.......Worth about 300.00 on a good day

    Thanks GOODWILL!!

    Any more ideas on art and or collectibles??

    226008961_o.jpg

    Better yet...any ideas where I can find more of these...
  • ROYCE13

    Posts: 315

    Feb 22, 2009 9:58 AM GMT
    Hey Guy,

    Nagel, yes his work has increased over the years, but if I remember he past away around 1984. His highest auction price for a piece was in 2003.

    The piece shown here is a poster, and yes posters go for a few dollars, and they do not really increase in value. His serigraphs, lithographs, paintings and mixed medias do increase in value. Very few posters increase in value, however some due, not always becasue of the artist, but posters are not a good investment, usually, as art, unless vintage movies, and early period ski resort advertisements. But there are many variables that would make the poster market increase. Just google Patrick Nagel and you will find many places to buy and learn. A real Nagel piece on the average is 1000.00+, I just did a quick review and there are a few for 500.00+ on the market. Art is crazy, I actually buy art (fine art) and sell them for 3 different price ranges depending on the location and site. So you can get a deal, if you want to do the work, and worry if it is original and etc..... Look at artbrokerage.com, they have many Nagels for sale, this is a site that i sell and buy from as well.

    Let me know if you need any further assistance.


  • ROYCE13

    Posts: 315

    Feb 22, 2009 10:09 AM GMT
    as far as thoughts on art and collecting,

    art - do not be intimidated by it as many are
    art does not have to be expensive
    buy what you like and can afford not what someone else tells you , unless you
    have no opinion and endless money

    have an open mind to art - I grew up with great art and all classical schools, but being around the world and investigating, opening my mind, i like art of all types and mediums and styles, i surprise myself sometimes

    art as an investment, yes you can sell anything anywhere, but if you want top dollar, then it is more work

    collecting - again collect what you like, art, objects, painted antique metal trash cans etc... then display them like a collection and then your collection of not art becomes an art installation. for example, one of my loves is architecture, and architectural fragments, so I found a set of 8 corbels that i was going to use in a project for a kitchen, then a while later I took the corbels and displayed them on the wall as a piece of art and sometimes I place a candle on each one, sometimes a single flower on each one, they are my art and canvas to change. But it is a collection. I recently bought a serigraph for a good price and then i bought 2 others and placed all three on the wall as a trio, everybody thinks I bought it that way. So again, create your collection from what you like, art, antique white french bowls for the kitchen, apoth. jars for the bath, we just found 5 copper antique fire extinq. in a country shop, so i placed them on a custom display shelf as a piece of art for a client. They love it, and everyone else loves it and it is not a true collection. FYI
  • ROYCE13

    Posts: 315

    Feb 22, 2009 10:10 AM GMT
    one more thing, i am up at this hour to get a better deal on the 24 hour auction site for better pricing, but it does not always pay off.

  • kaccioto

    Posts: 284

    Feb 22, 2009 3:45 PM GMT
    started last year, we have a couple entry pieces, but no time to update..i like some of dali salvador's more muted attempts, and the price is relatively great.
  • Posted by a hidden member.
    Log in to view his profile

    Feb 22, 2009 4:11 PM GMT

    I'm trying to fill in space with some post war stuff:

    Willem De Kooning, Ad Reinhardt (Expressionists), Alfred Manessier, Jean Fautrier (Paris School), and Louise Nevelson. I have other pieces but focusing on these at the moment. I'm about to have more space in Manhattan, so who knows, I'll likely go crazy.

    Anyone see a piece by Roy de Forest out of Cali?
  • kaccioto

    Posts: 284

    Feb 22, 2009 4:44 PM GMT
    jprichva said
    kaccioto saidstarted last year, we have a couple entry pieces, but no time to update..i like some of dali salvador's more muted attempts, and the price is relatively great.


    Be careful with Dali. A lot of his stuff is fraudulent. An old friend of mine, since passed away, was Dali's personal authenticator. He was regularly flown around the world to discern the fakes from the real thing. After Dali's death, the estate kept him on and he remained the chief authenticator until his death about 10 years ago. Sometimes he was asked to append his own signature to pieces, either under Dali's or on the back, to establish the provenance. His name was Albert "Cap" Field, and he was a wonderfully eccentric old coot. Cap was also the world's premier authority on playing cards from the medieval period up through the 20th century.


    i'm more interested with his subtle sketches as opposed to his imaginative paintings..i like seeing what's underneath the hood as opposed to the type of spoiler..but you're right i definitely didn't account for his popularity when i first saw his pieces, thanks for the tip.
  • Posted by a hidden member.
    Log in to view his profile

    Feb 22, 2009 5:18 PM GMT
    It's good to know and I am looking for more. Even if I do buy a poster @ 7 buck and could sell it for more or hang it in my place...I like that...~

    Now, original...I like that even more
  • Posted by a hidden member.
    Log in to view his profile

    Feb 24, 2009 9:57 AM GMT

    My parents are avid art enthusiasts, though I wouldn't call them 'collectors'. Their collection is somewhat disparate, it includes a Franz Marc, several original Chagall prints, and a D'Aubernage (Rembrandt's apprentice).

    I inherited a Kandinsky from my grandmother. With my first pay check out of medical school I plan to expand on a true collection, primarily from the blaue riter period.

    The recent wave of post-modern artists that have dominated Sotheby's and Christie's (including Pollock, Warhol, and Klimmt) is bound to subside. Now is a good time to purchase Kandinsky, Macke or Jawlensky. (est. 45 000 USD). The trend towards early 20th century art has already started, Christie's London recently sold a Kandinsky for 490K, about 200% it's estimated value.

    My best friend, for example, purchased a Munter (also blaue riter) last year for 41K, and sold it at auction about 2 months ago for 371K.

    So happy collecting!