How Jesus Became God

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    Nov 05, 2017 11:22 AM GMT
    Let's See If "How Jesus Became God" by Dr. Bart Ehrman Answers Some of My Questions

    Question #1
    How did Jesus earn godhood?

    Question #2
    When did Jesus earn godhood?

    Question #3
    Jesus as a Jewish man is recognized by Jewish people as a god?
    Judaism recognizes Jesus as a god?

    Question #4
    We know that Jesus is Roman propaganda, a Jewish face on Julius Caesar, Augustus Caesar, Vespasian, Titus, and Domitian,
    how does Jesus compare to these god-men?
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    Nov 05, 2017 11:43 AM GMT
    For me, the book begins on page 211 at Chapter 6: The Beginning of Christology.

    Oh, well, this isn't a 5 star book right off the bat. How did Jesus earn godhood could be answered by the question, Did people think Jesus was God. Bart doesn't ask that question, he asks the question, Did Jesus think he was God at Chapter 3. This lack confirms my orientation that the book does not begin until Chapter 6. So, there is insufficient ground for the treatment of the subject matter.

    The question, Did Jewish people and Roman people think Jesus was God is a very important question.

    Like Julius Caesar, was Jesus included in the pantheon of existing non-human gods as well as the pantheon of humans who were god?
    No, not in Jewish society, not in Roman society within the first 10 years of Jesus' death.

    Like Julius Caesar, were there deity honors before death, say at some festival, within the first 10 years of Jesus' death?
    No, not in Judea and not in Rome.

    What is this?! God is not recognized as God immediately, not until 40 years later?!

    Was there a priest of Jesus within the theocracy as Mark Antony, high up in the Roman Republic, was a priest of Julius Caesar?
    No, not in Jewish government, not in Roman governorship of Judea, not in the Roman Empire.

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    Nov 05, 2017 5:55 PM GMT
    Chapter 6: The Beginning of Christology: Christ as Exalted to Heaven

    First Thessalonians 49-50 C.E.
    Romans 1: 3-4

    Chapter 7: Jesus as God on Earth

    (One of My Comments: If Jesus is the Son of the God of Moses, then Jesus needs to at least be a military leader.)

    Philippians 2, a pre-Pauline tradition - God exalts Christ Jesus
    (One of My Comments: The Hebrew God exalts Julius Caesar in the guise of a Jewish man, Jesus.)

    Philippians re-writes Isaiah 45: 22-23 It is to Yahweh (God of Israel) alone that every knee shall bow and every tongue confess.

    (One of My Comments: so, Roman imperial cult usurps the Hebrew Bible. Roman Propaganda Mangod, Jesus, is exalted to Yahweh status, usurping reverence reserved for Yahweh and giving it to Julius Caesar and Augustus Caesar in the guise of Jesus. So, Jesus had an Octavian/Augustus Caesar complex.)

    John 1: 1, 14, 17

    = = =

    So, you just have a bunch of writers who make Jesus God.
    Certainly Jesus was not worshiped as God of the Jews at the Temple Mount, AD 31 - AD 70 or AD 33 - AD 70/73.

    In Rome 100 BCE to AD 100, the theocracy did the deifying not just a bunch of propagandists.
  • barefootlover

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    Nov 06, 2017 9:41 PM GMT
    According to biblical christology, the human nature of Christ did not take on godhood, but rather the Son of God took on humanity, being both God and man in one person.