Transgender People Can Enlist in Military Jan. 1, Pentagon Says

  • metta

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    Dec 11, 2017 8:50 PM GMT
    Transgender People Can Enlist in Military Jan. 1, Pentagon Says

    https://finance.yahoo.com/news/transgender-people-enlist-military-jan-181029241.html
  • PennsyGuy

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    Dec 12, 2017 1:00 AM GMT
    This is a bit of a slippery slope. If the Commander-in-Chief issues an order, it must be obeyed by his subordinates in our military services.
  • mybud

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    Dec 12, 2017 2:23 AM GMT
    PennsyGuy saidThis is a bit of a slippery slope. If the Commander-in-Chief issues an order, it must be obeyed by his subordinates in our military services.
    But this is a democracy...Look up the defintion in Websters...
  • Plooje

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    Dec 12, 2017 3:11 AM GMT
    mybud said
    PennsyGuy saidThis is a bit of a slippery slope. If the Commander-in-Chief issues an order, it must be obeyed by his subordinates in our military services.
    But this is a democracy...Look up the defintion in Websters...


    We have a civilian Commander in Chief and that is the President. What part of that don't you get? The military is not a democracy.
  • mybud

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    Dec 12, 2017 3:30 AM GMT
    Plooje said
    mybud said
    PennsyGuy saidThis is a bit of a slippery slope. If the Commander-in-Chief issues an order, it must be obeyed by his subordinates in our military services.
    But this is a democracy...Look up the defintion in Websters...


    We have a civilian Commander in Chief and that is the President. What part of that don't you get? The military is not a democracy.
    The process is democratic..but you want to debate using your Fascist ideologies ....so gaze into a mirror and talk to yourself...Duces
  • craycraydoesd...

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    Dec 12, 2017 3:34 AM GMT
    Trump is a god to these trolls. They have nothing left to lose. Everything he does is perfectly right, 100% of the time!
  • Plooje

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    Dec 12, 2017 3:46 PM GMT
    mybud said
    Plooje said
    mybud said
    PennsyGuy saidThis is a bit of a slippery slope. If the Commander-in-Chief issues an order, it must be obeyed by his subordinates in our military services.
    But this is a democracy...Look up the defintion in Websters...


    We have a civilian Commander in Chief and that is the President. What part of that don't you get? The military is not a democracy.
    The process is democratic..but you want to debate using your Fascist ideologies ....so gaze into a mirror and talk to yourself...Duces


    You clearly have never served in the military. And for that we can all be thankful.
  • mwolverine

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    Dec 12, 2017 5:19 PM GMT
    Trump should learn from Israel:

    Israeli military has no problem with transgender soldiers
    http://www.realjock.com/gayforums/4324564
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    Dec 12, 2017 5:24 PM GMT
    I am sorry but they should not be allowed in, in till they get the mental issues looked at and fixed. Even if you have depression your not allowed in, most transgender have depression, have suicidal thoughts and so on. Also as a tax payer i dont want to pay for their mutilation of their body. No matter if they change the outside whatever they was born as thats what they are. Like Bruce Jenner he is still a guy
  • roadbikeRob

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    Dec 12, 2017 6:37 PM GMT
    Hdawg1981 saidI am sorry but they should not be allowed in, in till they get the mental issues looked at and fixed. Even if you have depression your not allowed in, most transgender have depression, have suicidal thoughts and so on. Also as a tax payer i dont want to pay for their mutilation of their body. No matter if they change the outside whatever they was born as thats what they are. Like Bruce Jenner he is still a guy
    Thank you!
    +2,000,000!
  • roadbikeRob

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    Dec 12, 2017 6:41 PM GMT
    mybud said
    PennsyGuy saidThis is a bit of a slippery slope. If the Commander-in-Chief issues an order, it must be obeyed by his subordinates in our military services.
    But this is a democracy...Look up the defintion in Websters...
    Actually we are not a democracy, we are a constitutional republic.
  • mybud

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    Dec 12, 2017 10:24 PM GMT
    I believe in a inclusive society and ideally it should reflect in all societal areas. Granted, I can't wrap my head around why a person would chose to have sex reassignment surgery.All I know life is too short not to live a happy and fulfilling existence.....
  • bro4bro

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    Dec 13, 2017 1:53 AM GMT
    As anyone who has seen Tom Cruise and Jack Nicholson in A Few Good Men knows, a military commander does not have supreme authority over his subordinates. He still has to follow the rules. He can't for example, suddenly decide not to allow blacks or women in the military.

    Trump's desire to extend the pre-existing ban on transgender recruits has already been ruled illegal by two federal courts. Trump would prefer that the ban be in effect until the final appeal but at this point in time he has no legal right to demand so, since the courts' rulings stand until they are overturned.
  • mwolverine

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    Dec 13, 2017 7:49 AM GMT
    Good grief! Until recently, and still in some corners, the same is said about GAYS:

    Homosexuality is a "mental issue" that needs to be "fixed".

    Most gays "have depression", witness how often they turn to substance abuse.

    Gays "have suicidal thoughts". In fact one of our talking points is (reducing) gay teen suicide attempts.
    And it is mostly teens (18 and 19) who enlist into the armed forces.

    "As a taxpayer, I don't want to pay for their" AIDS.

    roadbikeRob said
    Hdawg1981 saidI am sorry but they should not be allowed in, in till they get the mental issues looked at and fixed. Even if you have depression your not allowed in, most transgender have depression, have suicidal thoughts and so on. Also as a tax payer i dont want to pay for their mutilation of their body. No matter if they change the outside whatever they was born as thats what they are. Like Bruce Jenner he is still a guy
    Thank you!
    +2,000,000!
  • Jeepguy2

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    Dec 13, 2017 5:35 PM GMT
    Having been in the military I can honestly say that IMO these misfits have no business in there. I also don't think women have any business in combat units or onboard navy ships either.

    In the Vietnam war they had a way of dealing with misfits and it became known as "fragging". Also there is something known as "friendly fire". Sometimes it is an accident...and sometimes it is not. icon_wink.gif

  • mwolverine

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    Dec 13, 2017 7:12 PM GMT
    Jeepguy2> I also don't think women have any business in combat units or onboard navy ships either.

    Number of Women in IDF Combat Roles to Hit Record 2,500
    Women already a majority in mixed-gender units, raising questions about the way forward

    https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/.premium-1.794975

    38 female IAF pilots shatter the glass firmament
    Twenty years after Miller vs Defense Ministry, a once-reluctant Israeli Air Force wants more women in the cockpit

    https://www.timesofisrael.com/38-female-iaf-pilots-shatter-the-glass-firmament



    Even Saudi Arabia will soon let women drive cars, a though that was much more common 100 years ago.
  • Jeepguy2

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    Dec 14, 2017 1:43 AM GMT
    Israel is roughly the size of Haiti. A country that small has to talk anyone they can get who is willing to join IDF.
  • mwolverine

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    Dec 14, 2017 7:19 AM GMT
    Jeepguy2 saidIsrael is roughly the size of Haiti. A country that small has to talk anyone they can get who is willing to join IDF.

    It's not an issue of quantity but quality.
    There is no reason to keep out those women who qualify.

    Just as there was no reason to keep gays out of the US military and they were (officially) let in not to inflate troop numbers but because we want the best soldiers, the best interpreters, etc.
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    Dec 14, 2017 9:31 AM GMT
    roadbikeRob said
    mybud said
    PennsyGuy saidThis is a bit of a slippery slope. If the Commander-in-Chief issues an order, it must be obeyed by his subordinates in our military services.
    But this is a democracy...Look up the defintion in Websters...
    Actually we are not a democracy, we are a constitutional republic.


    You can't be serious. Lol
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  • mwolverine

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    Jan 04, 2018 3:41 PM GMT
    Wow. Life must be even more boring that normal for the AyaTrolLiar, stuck in his mum's basement.
    He only finally discovered this thread 3 weeks after discussion ended.

    Not to actually discuss the thread, but to hate on Israel, the Jewish state.
    Because he hates Jews and all things Jewish.

    SCIENCE: Jews are Indigenous to Israel, in the Levant / Middle East.
    Who other than a raving racist Anti-semite would make a "racial purity" argument about Jews not being Jews?

    http://www.realjock.com/gayforums/4347459

    Why does virulent Anti-Semitism play such a large role in MidEast discussions on RJ?
    http://www.realjock.com/gayforums/4015076
    http://www.realjock.com/gayforums/1443151
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    Jan 06, 2018 7:35 AM GMT
    First female rapper in the Middle East, not even in Israel. icon_rolleyes.gif


    First female Islamic judge in the Middle East, not even in Israel icon_rolleyes.gif


    First all-female racing car team in the Middle East, not even in Israel icon_rolleyes.gif


    So mwoverine, stop thinking Israel is better than any other countries or think President Donald Trump will learns from "Israel".
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    Jan 06, 2018 7:38 AM GMT
    JTheM saidSorry to keep ripping through your lies. It damages your cause almost as much as the fact you obviouslt need to keep telling them in the first place...

    Confirmed: Jews Genetically European, NOT Indigenous To The Levant (Unlike Palestinians, Who Are)
    http://www.realjock.com/gayforums/4345238


    Oh you forgot to link this as well.

    More Than 90 Percent Of The Genetic Ancestry Of Modern Lebanese Is Derived From Ancient Canaanites.
    http://www.realjock.com/gayforums/4338252/

    Mwolverine can't change the history.
  • mwolverine

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    Jan 06, 2018 7:44 AM GMT
    Between clowns like the AyaTrolLiar JPhleM and Covfefe one could almost forget that this thread was about...

    Transgender People Can Enlist In Military Jan. 1, Pentagon Says

    Then again, shills like the AyaTrolLiar recently called RJ a "dating app". icon_rolleyes.gif

    For some, it's always about Israel and Jews (e.g. the AyaTrolLiar could only see Ruth Bader Ginsburg as Jewish, and thus severely over-represented on the US Supreme Court, rather than as a woman and thus under-represented....)
    Report Spam their off-topic posts, always seeking to hijack threads (while never able to address a topic in its thread).
  • Posted by a hidden member.
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    Jan 06, 2018 7:47 AM GMT
    If you want to talk about this topic, then stick with the topic and stop with your nonsense about "Israel".
  • mwolverine

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    Jan 06, 2018 8:25 AM GMT
    My comments, unlike your hate spam, were about the topic!

    Trump should learn from Israel:

    Israeli military has no problem with transgender soldiers
    http://www.realjock.com/gayforums/4324564

    Problem is that any mention of Israel or Jews and the trolls forget the topic and start salivating and barking.
    It's pathological, they can't stop it.

    Recall that's the only reason some like the AyaTrolLiar JPhleM are even here. To exude and satiate their hate.
    After a decade on RJ, having participated in nothing else, he called it a "dating app". icon_rolleyes.gif