Fulvia and the Gospel of Mark

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    Dec 28, 2017 8:46 PM GMT
    Fulvia (c. 83 BC – 40 BC) was an aristocratic Roman woman who lived during the Late Roman Republic. She gained access to power through her marriage to three of the most promising men of her generation, Publius Clodius Pulcher, Gaius Scribonius Curio, and Marcus Antonius.

    https://www.carotta.de/subseite/texte/articula/Fulvia_en.pdf
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    Dec 30, 2017 5:44 PM GMT
    "Julius Caesar was murdered because he had founded a political system built on clemency, contrary to the example of his predecessors."
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    Dec 30, 2017 5:59 PM GMT
    Dionysian omophagia is in no way to be confused with cannibalism.
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    Dec 30, 2017 6:19 PM GMT
    The entire Easter liturgy can be traced back to Caesar's funeral and bears the signature of Fulvia, who through her actions achieved Caesar's posthumous victory, his resurrection from the dead.

    Pick up at top of page 9.
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    Dec 30, 2017 6:21 PM GMT
    Francesco Carotta:
    Dionysian omophagia is in no way to be confused with cannibalism.

    Charts and Maps Astrologer, Steefen

    So, Holy Communion is about Dionysus. (Glad I read The Bacchae by Euripides.)

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    Dec 31, 2017 5:43 AM GMT
    From pages 26-27

    Vengeance, however, was not only the opposite of the Clementia Caesaris,
    but also of the amnesty that had been granted to the murderers to prevent the annullment of the
    Acta Caesaris, which had not only made the distribution of land to the veterans possible, but, more
    importantly, preserved Octavianus’ inheritance.

    Although the omission of criminal
    prosecution of the Caesar murderers was incomprehensible to the people, even
    detested by them, Octavianus could not enforce his vengeance plans immediately and
    legally—election as tribune of the people, enabling him to drag the murders before a
    people’s court, was denied to him by Antonius—but finally through his private army,
    thus illegally.

    After the undecided battle at Mutina, Antonius had to join him anyway,
    and together with Lepidus, who had been in favor of an immediate retaliation
    campaign against the murderers even on the evening of the Ides, they formed the
    triumvirate. They stated that since Caesars Clementia had been misused by unfaithful
    backstabbers in order to kill him, they preferred to counteract them rather than suffer
    under them.

    The condemnation of the sympathizers of the Caesar murderers
    ensued, with the terrible proscription lists and the war against Brutus and Cassius, who
    were defeated at Philippi. The price for the vengeance was enormous: The estates of
    the towns of Italy blacklisted by the triumviri did not suffice for the allotment of land
    to the countless soldiers who had been recruited for the victory at Philippi, others had
    to be dispossessed because the monies Antonius was supposed to collect in the East for
    the settlements could not meet the exorbitant requirements, either.

    pick up at top of p. 29
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    Dec 31, 2017 6:05 AM GMT
    Francesco Carotta
    They stated that since Caesar's Clementia had been misused by unfaithful
    backstabbers in order to kill him...

    Steefen
    "Father forgive them for they know not what they do" equates to Caesar's Clementia in effect [Caesar speaking forgiveness] at the time of his death.
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    Dec 31, 2017 6:20 AM GMT
    Homework: Read Clementia Caesaris

    https://www.carotta.de/subseite/texte/esumma/eclement.html
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    Dec 31, 2017 10:49 PM GMT
    Hm, someone told me I MUST read about the Gracchi brothers.

    As for further context:

    After three years of this bloodthirsty rule Sulla resigned the office of dictator and withdrew to the country. But his proscription lists remained in the memory of the survivors like a sinister image of terror, and Sulla’s ambiguous fame was proclaimed on his tomb with the words: «He did good to his friends and evil to his foes like none before him.

    So, before Clementia Caesaris, the forgiveness of Caesar-Jesus, we have Sulla's goodness to friends and evil to foes.
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    Dec 31, 2017 11:02 PM GMT
    Cicero was overwhelmed. That was more than he could understand. He felt himself all the more dearly called to play in his own way the philosophical accompaniment to Caesar’s historical deeds. «We do not find with you what we have found with every victor in civil war. You are the only one, Gaius Caesar, at whose victory no one has lost his life, except in battle.» So he addresses the dictator. In dithyrambic speeches he praises the clementissimus dux, the most-merciful leader, his «unique and unheard-of», his «wonderful and praiseworthy clementia». With wise insight he speaks in letters to friends of Caesar’s «unique humanity» and «incredible generosity», of his «mild and good nature»
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    Dec 31, 2017 11:08 PM GMT
    The senate too was carried away by the general attitude, and made a unique decision in honour of the unique historical' moment. It appointed Caesar as father of his country and decreed that a special temple should be built for the clementia Caesaris. There Caesar and his divine clementia were to be set up and worshipped, and on the pediment of the temple a globe of the world would proclaim that the clemency of Caesar spanned the whole world.
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    Jan 01, 2018 4:51 PM GMT
    "On the day of Caesar’s funeral, the feast of the Liberalia, according to custom, the priestesses of Liber-Dionysus, old women wreathed with ivy, sat in the city distributing flat-cakes called liba of which they sacrificed parts for pious takers on sacred, portable, small stoves. These flat-breads were imprinted by the cult association of Liber Pater, the Roman Dionysus-Bacchus, with the grain goddess Ceres, the Roman Demeter, whose two symbolic elements, wine cup and bread host, live on in our Christian Eucharist."
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    Jan 01, 2018 5:22 PM GMT
    Apparently, Apollo was not that which could make [Octavian] popular with the people, to whom Ceres—because from her came the grain, thus the bread—remained more important and with her Dionysus, her cult-associate who, at the latest after his identification with Osiris, was not only regarded as wine god, but also as originator of grain cultivation [think Lord of the resurrecting cycle of crops].

    Pick up at top of p. 31
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    Jan 01, 2018 6:47 PM GMT
    Christianity originated in Rome, as the religion of the landless in the struggle against the Roman latifundists. The first prominent martyrs were the Gracchi, whom many followed, until a change came with Caesar, insofar as, although he was also murdered, his agrarian laws were not annulled, and he himself was elevated to God status whereby his land distributions remained sacred and inviolable. He is the Christ to whom the small Roman peasant owes his piece of land. When during the Spanish Holy Week the ritual saying «el Cristo es la tierra», «the Christ is the Earth» is sounded, nothing else is expressed than the memory of the great imperator who, by his sacrificial death, guaranteed to the small veteran his piece of farmland. This name Christós, in its original form Chrestós, «the good, the best, the useful one», corresponds to the compromise formula negotiated with the murderers, according to which the murder of Caesar was not to be judicially pursued, but all of his measures and decisions should nevertheless keep their validity: «because this served the best interest of the city.» For the friends of the pardoned murderers had, for their own safety, most emphatically insisted that Caesar’s measures should not so much retain their validity for legal reasons, but «because (they are) useful»: διὰ χρείαν—in which the root of χρηστός can be recognized, and by which Caesar had been declared «the useful one», i. e. «of outstanding merit to the state, meritorious».

    The name expresses the same in Greek as that which was engraved on the base of the statue that Antonius erected for the murdered Caesar in the autumn of 44 BC: PARENTI OPTIME MERITO, which is ususally translated as «to the most meritorious father», although, at that time, «most meritorious» did not signify only the citizens who had rendered outstanding services to the state, but especially those who had given their lives, the moribund fallen in battle, the martyrs.
    The inviolability of the Acta Caesaris, Antonius bought with the amnesty of the murderers.
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    Jan 01, 2018 9:10 PM GMT
    Shocking:

    The people saw the God Julius Caesar [Divus Iulius] as a god of clemency, trust,
    and the settlement of disputes.
    They saw his statues throughout the Empire as places of asylum.
    Not Octavian.

    Instead of building the previously decreed temple to Caesar’s Virtue, Clementia / Mercy and Merciful Justice,
    Octavian Gaius Julius Caesar Augustus had one built to his Iniquity of Vengeance, the avenging Mars.

    Caesaris Clementia secured the acta Caesaris.

    Because, although he advanced to the position of Augustus and eventually to Divus himself,
    since he had no successors, he had to adopt some, amongst them the later emperor Tiberius,
    the child, of all people, of the wife of a man, who had fought on Fulvia’s side against him
    in Perusia and who after the fall of the town had to save herself from him
    and, like Fulvia, had fled to Antonius, lover of Cleopatra of Egypt—
    which was to become the flight to Egypt in the Gospel.
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    Jan 01, 2018 9:30 PM GMT
    When the Julio-Claudian dynasty died out with Nero, and the following one, the Flavian dynasty, established itself with Vespasianus, the Gospels, in the version known to us today, emerged: and, lo and behold, they narratively relocate the events from Gallia—the land where Caesar had risen to power—to Galilaea—the land where Vespasianus, for his part, had come to power—whereby the foundation account of the first dynasty was adapted and made usable for the second one.

    [Finished reading the arrticle]
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    Feb 04, 2018 8:43 PM GMT
    Caesar's image raised on a cross on the second day of a wine and bread festival, later used in the telling of Jesus raised on a cross on Good Friday, a day after a last supper of wine and bread.

    http://www.academia.edu/2213927/Liberalia_tu_accusas_Restituting_the_ancient_date_of_Caesars_funus
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    Feb 06, 2018 6:05 PM GMT

    Francesco Carotta wrote "For Curio [Fulvia] could only arrange a funus imaginarium in Rome, at which, according to custom, a life-sized imago, a wax effigy was displayed in place of the missing body.21" This footnote refers to the custom, not to the claim that Fulvia did this.