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  • JackNNJ

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    Jan 09, 2018 3:09 AM GMT
    And you've been oppressed for 3 billion years. Now shut the fuck up and make something of your sorry little life.



  • you_know_Its_...

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    Jan 09, 2018 3:43 AM GMT
    Peterson makes good points. Too bad his lectures/videos keep getting hijacked for use by white nationalists, as is the case here on RJ lol
  • MuchoMasQueMu...

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    Jan 10, 2018 12:40 PM GMT
    Jordan Peterson is brilliant. I love that guy and his message. He puts his foot down and stands up for his right to free speech. There are so many videos of him protesting to defend his rights and all these snowflake, fascist, liberal, scummy, SJW trash do all that they can to sabotage and intimidate him.

    What those privileged, callow, college students need is a bitch-slap dose of harsh reality. They think their lives are so terrible and that they're in constant strife. I say dump'em all in some developing nation for a year or two so they quickly learn and permanently understand how exceptional their western style of living truly is.

    Can you imagine these spoiled brats getting on their soapboxes in Iran or India demanding that the law recognize thirty-one genders? It will never happen. icon_lol.gif
  • Happenis

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    Jan 10, 2018 1:03 PM GMT
    JackNNJ saidAnd you've been oppressed for 3 billion years. Now shut the fuck up and make something of your sorry little life.





    Yep, because we all definitely need a lecture on oppression from a straight upper middle class white male (who doesnt even live in this country).

  • MuchoMasQueMu...

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    Jan 10, 2018 1:29 PM GMT
    Fallacious reasoning above. So if he parroted the victimhood mentality that you hold so dear to your bosom then it wouldn't matter that he has a PhD, is a clinical psychologist, is an internationally recognized author (with his latest book "12 Rules for Life: An Antidote to Chaos" which is listed as a number one seller on amazon), and at one time lived in the United States and taught at Harvard but now chooses to live in Canada?

    Yet since he disagrees with you he can't possibly know what he's talking about since he doesn't live in the US and doesn't share your sexual orientation.

    Okay, just so we're clear. icon_rolleyes.gif
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    Jan 10, 2018 1:49 PM GMT
    Happenis said
    JackNNJ saidAnd you've been oppressed for 3 billion years. Now shut the fuck up and make something of your sorry little life.


    Yep, because we all definitely need a lecture on oppression from a straight upper middle class white male (who doesnt even live in this country).

    I've attended a number of lectures by characters like these. Sometimes billed as "motivational speakers".

    They remind me more of mega-church preachers, without as much religion. Whose only personal motivation is the same as all these guys - making easy money for themselves.

    And I also recall posting here a few weeks ago about a satirical TV commercial I made some 40 years ago. The opening line was: "What is it? I don't know. But whatever it is, I bet you need one!"

    These speakers are hucksters. If you buy their snake all it demonstrates is that they are indeed much smarter - than gullible you.
  • roadbikeRob

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    Jan 10, 2018 1:51 PM GMT
    MuchoMasQueMusculo saidJordan Peterson is brilliant. I love that guy and his message. He puts his foot down and stands up for his right to free speech. There are so many videos of him protesting to defend his rights and all these snowflake, fascist, liberal, scummy, SJW trash do all that they can to sabotage and intimidate him.

    What those privileged, callow, college students need is a bitch-slap dose of harsh reality. They think their lives are so terrible and that they're in constant strife. I say dump'em all in some developing nation for a year or two so they quickly learn and permanently understand how exceptional their western style of living truly is.

    Can you imagine these spoiled brats getting on their soapboxes in Iran or India demanding that the law recognize thirty-one genders? It will never happen. icon_lol.gif
    Better yet send these rich college kids to the Democratic Peoples Republic of Korea or North Korea and dare them to get on their soapboxes and fiercely protest against fat boy Kim. You will most likely never hear from any of them again since they will be hauled off to their "stay in the mountains" which is a pleasant way of saying Gulag prison and hard labor.
  • MuchoMasQueMu...

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    Jan 10, 2018 2:04 PM GMT
    art_deco said

    They remind me more of mega-church preachers, without as much religion. Whose only personal motivation is the same as all these guys - making easy money for themselves.

    And I also recall posting here a few weeks ago about a satirical TV commercial I made some 40 years ago. The opening line was: "What is it? I don't know. But whatever it is, I bet you need one!"

    These speakers are hucksters. If you buy their snake oil it does demonstrate that they are indeed much smarter - than gullible you.


    Remind us again of your personal credentials in life that can invalidate this man who is highly esteemed and with many accomplishments.

    Maybe you can write a book about your former straight life and how everyone from that era wants nothing to do with you. I bet it will become a #1 seller on amazon.

    Didn't you say once that you were a teacher? Was it Harvard, by chance?






















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  • craycraydoesd...

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    Jan 11, 2018 1:37 AM GMT
    MMTM/MMQM has probably never heard of Jordan Peterson until the alt right/white nationalists started quoting him in their propaganda sites icon_lol.gif
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    Jan 11, 2018 2:12 AM GMT
    I never label myself to a political agenda. I like a good positive motivational speaker. His message come from the mouths of many. Remember the Secret and Abraham Hicks and other quantum physics lectures? I like them all and the power of the mind is really amazing. Becoming self made requires determination, motivation, persistence and the ability to focus on your goals and BLOCKING out the negative in every degree!! You can make a lot of money easy.... when you keep up on your MOJO!

    OH YES!!
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    Jan 11, 2018 3:07 AM GMT
    I am going to start selling these to some of the super Realjock members.......LOL

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    Happenis said
    JackNNJ saidAnd you've been oppressed for 3 billion years. Now shut the fuck up and make something of your sorry little life.





    Yep, because we all definitely need a lecture on oppression from a straight upper middle class white male (who doesnt even live in this country).




    Shoot the messenger much? Truth is truth, no matter where it is found or who speaks it. You seem to have more of a problem with the color of his skin than his message, and guess what you'd call that if it were done in reverse?
  • Leftswiper

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    Jan 11, 2018 5:13 AM GMT
    So I guess you won't have any problems with a straight guy lecturing gays about homophobia being blown out of proportion icon_lol.gif
  • MuchoMasQueMu...

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    Jan 11, 2018 7:00 AM GMT
    Leftswiper saidSo I guess you won't have any problems with a straight guy lecturing gays about homophobia being blown out of proportion icon_lol.gif


    Your logic is flawed because he didn't single anyone out nor did he focus on one minority. He is telling everyone to stop wallowing in victimization. Everyone has something to work on and everyone feels disadvantaged for one reason or another. That would be apparent to anyone who watched the entire video.
  • Happenis

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    Jan 11, 2018 12:17 PM GMT
    Radd said
    Happenis said
    JackNNJ saidAnd you've been oppressed for 3 billion years. Now shut the fuck up and make something of your sorry little life.





    Yep, because we all definitely need a lecture on oppression from a straight upper middle class white male (who doesnt even live in this country).




    Shoot the messenger much? Truth is truth, no matter where it is found or who speaks it. You seem to have more of a problem with the color of his skin than his message, and guess what you'd call that if it were done in reverse?


    I mean, come on. How is somebody who was never even truly discriminated against going to preach to the quire about how oppression shouldn't be treated seriously anymore?

    Its like taking bodybuilding and weight loss tips from a guy whose been morbidly obese his whole entire life. Or me explaining to a woman what giving birth feels like. Makes no sense!

    And if you reread my post, you will know that i'm not dismissing him solely b/c he's white. There are definitely white people who face levels of discrimination too (based on sexual orientation, gender expression, severe disability, etc); it just so happens to be that this guy has none of those struggles. So why pretend that his perspective in the context of oppression has ANY validity?

  • roadbikeRob

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    Jan 11, 2018 12:46 PM GMT
    2bnaked saidI never label myself to a political agenda. I like a good positive motivational speaker. His message come from the mouths of many. Remember the Secret and Abraham Hicks and other quantum physics lectures? I like them all and the power of the mind is really amazing. Becoming self made requires determination, motivation, persistence and the ability to focus on your goals and BLOCKING out the negative in every degree!! You can make a lot of money easy.... when you keep up on your MOJO!

    OH YES!!
    Much easier said than done in this unpredictable world.
  • k15thelement

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    Jan 11, 2018 1:01 PM GMT
    Trying to bring back those long winded flame wars, eh? I see you lol
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    Jan 11, 2018 6:39 PM GMT
    Happenis said
    Radd said
    Happenis said
    JackNNJ saidAnd you've been oppressed for 3 billion years. Now shut the fuck up and make something of your sorry little life.





    Yep, because we all definitely need a lecture on oppression from a straight upper middle class white male (who doesnt even live in this country).




    Shoot the messenger much? Truth is truth, no matter where it is found or who speaks it. You seem to have more of a problem with the color of his skin than his message, and guess what you'd call that if it were done in reverse?


    I mean, come on. How is somebody who was never even truly discriminated against going to preach to the quire about how oppression shouldn't be treated seriously anymore?

    Its like taking bodybuilding and weight loss tips from a guy whose been morbidly obese his whole entire life. Or me explaining to a woman what giving birth feels like. Makes no sense!

    And if you reread my post, you will know that i'm not dismissing him solely b/c he's white. There are definitely white people who face levels of discrimination too (based on sexual orientation, gender expression, severe disability, etc); it just so happens to be that this guy has none of those struggles. So why pretend that his perspective in the context of oppression has ANY validity?




    You missed his ENTIRE point. His point is that we ALL get discriminated against. And yes, even straight white males.....gasp!
  • Happenis

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    Jan 11, 2018 6:57 PM GMT
    Radd said
    Happenis said
    Radd said
    Happenis said
    JackNNJ saidAnd you've been oppressed for 3 billion years. Now shut the fuck up and make something of your sorry little life.





    Yep, because we all definitely need a lecture on oppression from a straight upper middle class white male (who doesnt even live in this country).




    Shoot the messenger much? Truth is truth, no matter where it is found or who speaks it. You seem to have more of a problem with the color of his skin than his message, and guess what you'd call that if it were done in reverse?


    I mean, come on. How is somebody who was never even truly discriminated against going to preach to the quire about how oppression shouldn't be treated seriously anymore?

    Its like taking bodybuilding and weight loss tips from a guy whose been morbidly obese his whole entire life. Or me explaining to a woman what giving birth feels like. Makes no sense!

    And if you reread my post, you will know that i'm not dismissing him solely b/c he's white. There are definitely white people who face levels of discrimination too (based on sexual orientation, gender expression, severe disability, etc); it just so happens to be that this guy has none of those struggles. So why pretend that his perspective in the context of oppression has ANY validity?




    You missed his ENTIRE point. His point is that we ALL get discriminated against. And yes, even straight white males.....gasp!


    If somebody tries to downplay oppression and thinks that discrimination shouldn't be taken *seriously* then they haven't faced REAL discrimination.

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    Happenis said
    Radd said
    Happenis said
    Radd said
    Happenis said
    JackNNJ saidAnd you've been oppressed for 3 billion years. Now shut the fuck up and make something of your sorry little life.





    Yep, because we all definitely need a lecture on oppression from a straight upper middle class white male (who doesnt even live in this country).




    Shoot the messenger much? Truth is truth, no matter where it is found or who speaks it. You seem to have more of a problem with the color of his skin than his message, and guess what you'd call that if it were done in reverse?


    I mean, come on. How is somebody who was never even truly discriminated against going to preach to the quire about how oppression shouldn't be treated seriously anymore?

    Its like taking bodybuilding and weight loss tips from a guy whose been morbidly obese his whole entire life. Or me explaining to a woman what giving birth feels like. Makes no sense!

    And if you reread my post, you will know that i'm not dismissing him solely b/c he's white. There are definitely white people who face levels of discrimination too (based on sexual orientation, gender expression, severe disability, etc); it just so happens to be that this guy has none of those struggles. So why pretend that his perspective in the context of oppression has ANY validity?




    You missed his ENTIRE point. His point is that we ALL get discriminated against. And yes, even straight white males.....gasp!


    If somebody tries to downplay oppression and thinks that discrimination shouldn't be taken *seriously* then they haven't faced REAL discrimination.




    Discrimination doesn't just conveniently fall into one of the little categories you just mentioned. If I wanted to commit suicide right now, all I'd have to do is go walk into any number of black neighborhoods. My life would be in instant danger of violence or death. So STFU about telling me a white person doesn't know what discrimination is.
  • Happenis

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    Jan 11, 2018 8:51 PM GMT
    Radd said
    Happenis said
    Radd said
    Happenis said
    Radd said
    Happenis said
    JackNNJ saidAnd you've been oppressed for 3 billion years. Now shut the fuck up and make something of your sorry little life.





    Yep, because we all definitely need a lecture on oppression from a straight upper middle class white male (who doesnt even live in this country).




    Shoot the messenger much? Truth is truth, no matter where it is found or who speaks it. You seem to have more of a problem with the color of his skin than his message, and guess what you'd call that if it were done in reverse?


    I mean, come on. How is somebody who was never even truly discriminated against going to preach to the quire about how oppression shouldn't be treated seriously anymore?

    Its like taking bodybuilding and weight loss tips from a guy whose been morbidly obese his whole entire life. Or me explaining to a woman what giving birth feels like. Makes no sense!

    And if you reread my post, you will know that i'm not dismissing him solely b/c he's white. There are definitely white people who face levels of discrimination too (based on sexual orientation, gender expression, severe disability, etc); it just so happens to be that this guy has none of those struggles. So why pretend that his perspective in the context of oppression has ANY validity?




    You missed his ENTIRE point. His point is that we ALL get discriminated against. And yes, even straight white males.....gasp!


    If somebody tries to downplay oppression and thinks that discrimination shouldn't be taken *seriously* then they haven't faced REAL discrimination.




    Discrimination doesn't just conveniently fall into one of the little categories you just mentioned. If I wanted to commit suicide right now, all I'd have to do is go walk into any number of black neighborhoods. My life would be in instant danger of violence or death. So STFU about telling me a white person doesn't know what discrimination is.



    Wow, reading comprehension isn't your strong point. Is it?

    If you read my post, I CLEARLY said that white people can still face varying levels of oppression. As *EXAMPLES*, I gave a (1) Serious disability, (2) Sexual Orientation, (3) Gender identity and then I added an "etc" to indicate that there are several other struggles.

    It just so happens to be that he has absolutely ZERO factors that would systemically oppress him in western society; so why is he telling others how to feel on the topic?

    I don't know what country you live in but believe it or not, people in black neighborhoods are not all out to kill you. In Harlem, Bed Stuy, parts of DC, Ladera Heights/Baldwin Hills (LA) and many other black areas - there are tons and tons of white people moving in and doing great!

    (Please spare us from the obscure articles that you might have from some right-wing site.)

    In my personal opinion (and you're free to disagree), blacks are usually faaaaaaaaar more accepting of others moving in than whites. Look up blockbusting, redlining, steering, racial profiling, sundown towns (all but the last one still exist now despite being illegal).

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    Happenis said
    Radd said
    Happenis said
    Radd said
    Happenis said
    Radd said
    Happenis said
    JackNNJ saidAnd you've been oppressed for 3 billion years. Now shut the fuck up and make something of your sorry little life.





    Yep, because we all definitely need a lecture on oppression from a straight upper middle class white male (who doesnt even live in this country).




    Shoot the messenger much? Truth is truth, no matter where it is found or who speaks it. You seem to have more of a problem with the color of his skin than his message, and guess what you'd call that if it were done in reverse?


    I mean, come on. How is somebody who was never even truly discriminated against going to preach to the quire about how oppression shouldn't be treated seriously anymore?

    Its like taking bodybuilding and weight loss tips from a guy whose been morbidly obese his whole entire life. Or me explaining to a woman what giving birth feels like. Makes no sense!

    And if you reread my post, you will know that i'm not dismissing him solely b/c he's white. There are definitely white people who face levels of discrimination too (based on sexual orientation, gender expression, severe disability, etc); it just so happens to be that this guy has none of those struggles. So why pretend that his perspective in the context of oppression has ANY validity?




    You missed his ENTIRE point. His point is that we ALL get discriminated against. And yes, even straight white males.....gasp!


    If somebody tries to downplay oppression and thinks that discrimination shouldn't be taken *seriously* then they haven't faced REAL discrimination.




    Discrimination doesn't just conveniently fall into one of the little categories you just mentioned. If I wanted to commit suicide right now, all I'd have to do is go walk into any number of black neighborhoods. My life would be in instant danger of violence or death. So STFU about telling me a white person doesn't know what discrimination is.



    Wow, reading comprehension isn't your strong point. Is it?

    If you read my post, I specifically said that white people can still face varying levels of oppression. As *EXAMPLES*, I gave a (1) Serious disability, (2) Sexual Orientation, (3) Gender identity and then I added an "etc" to say that there are many other struggles.

    It just so happens to be that he has absolutely ZERO factors that would systemically oppress him in western society; so why is he telling others how to feel on the topic?

    I don't know what country you live in but believe it or not, people in black neighborhoods are not all out to kill you. In Harlem, Bed Stuy, parts of DC, Ladera Heights/Baldwin Hills (LA) and many other black areas - there are tons and tons of white people moving in and doing great!

    (Please spare us from the obscure articles that you might have from some right-wing site.)

    In my personal opinion (and you're free to disagree), blacks are usually faaaaaaaaar more accepting of others moving in than whites. Look up blockbusting, redlining, steering, racial profiling, sundown towns (all but the last one still exist now despite being illegal).


    LMAO. Yeah, well tell that to all the white people I know who are now DEAD who moved into black neighborhoods.

    My softball team was looking for a field to practice on a couple months ago and one of our members suggested we play on the field by his house. I knew this was a bad idea because he moved into a primarily black neighborhood. Within ten minutes of practicing, 4-6 black males gathered on the picnic tables by the field and started yelling racial slurs at us. They came onto the field and basically took the bats away from some of the other members. We had no idea if they had guns or not so we just picked up and left. And that's the way it is for white people, at least where I live. And sorry to disappoint you but I'm no Right-Winger and I don't visit Right-Wing sites!


  • Happenis

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    Jan 11, 2018 9:25 PM GMT
    If those stories are even true then I bet if you told the cops; the perps will be hunted down by the police like there's no tomorrow and prosecuted to the FULL extent of the law.

    Now if I'm caught randomly walking *anywhere* (white or black area) and some cop out of the blue randomly decides to kill me then I won't get any justice since the court ALWAYS (without exception) blindly favors the cop over the victim of color. Witnesses, cameras, facts, the cops past history or being unarmed don't matter AT ALL. Trust and believe that if a black person killed you (for whatever reason) and they get caught then they'll get punished without mercy. THATS the difference!

    Ultimately, you have the law and cops on your side so in the context of being the victim of a crime - you still have the upper hand.
  • Happenis

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    Jan 11, 2018 9:37 PM GMT
    ^^The fact that the worst "oppression" that you've had to face involved kids calling you mean names and taking your wittle Softball bats away screams VOLUMES.

  • k15thelement

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    Jan 11, 2018 11:09 PM GMT
    Happenis said^^The fact that the worst "oppression" that you've had to face involved kids calling you mean names and taking your wittle Softball bats away screams VOLUMES.



    LMFAO. I'll help speed this discussion along.

    Radd has the belief that black people are evil monsters hell bent on destroying everything civilized. Now of course he doesn't believe that ALL black people are evil monsters. He knows a few well behaving black people that are decent people etc etc. But the majority of them must have some genetic disposition that cause them to behave like that and it's NOT racist to say because many black have genetics that make them better athletes. And even if there is a slight double standard with blacks being treated unfairly, it's clearly because they have a terrible reputation with all the crimes they're commiting. Black people only contribute less to violent crimes than whites because there are more white people but it's 100% positive that if there were the same amount of black people as white people, then blacks would be commiting 18x the amount of crimes than whites , so on and so forth.

    There's a little variation to the narrative but this is likely to be the direction. You'll get a little gaslighting here, confirmation biases link there sometimes to spice things up.

    Happy debating lol