Trump slump’ in the United States

  • outdoorsmuscl...

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    Jan 11, 2018 2:24 PM GMT
    Trump slump’ in the United States

    There was debate about whether there would be a ‘Trump slump’ of overseas visitors to the U.S. in 2017. The dip in tourism caused by anti-foreigner rhetoric in the U.S. and immigration policies turned out to be worse than expected, according to travel website Skift. The site found that in 2017, there was a 5.7% reduction in overseas arrivals (excluding Canada and Mexico), and a 9.4% decrease of visitors from Mexico. As of July 2017, the number of arrivals to the U.S. from foreign countries was down 9.3% compared to 2016, according to the U.S. Department of Commerce. The U.S. Travel Association found international travel to the U.S. was down 2.4% in 2017. Sumers said travelers will continue to be nervous about coming to America in 2018.

    https://www.marketwatch.com/story/here-is-where-everyone-is-going-to-be-booking-trips-to-in-2018-2018-01-05
  • roadbikeRob

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    Feb 11, 2018 1:31 PM GMT
    So what, who cares! Tourism is mostly a low wage industry with dead end job positions.
  • MuchoMasQueMu...

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    Feb 11, 2018 4:02 PM GMT
    Look at ElNathB on his sock account trying to work us up into a frenzy over these negligible numbers.

    So, depending on whom you want to believe it's either 9.3% from the Department of Commerce or a mere 2.4% according to the U.S. Travel Association.

    These numbers are insignificant at best and there are several factors that have resulted in fewer visitors to the US. The decline started back as early as 2016 when Obama was still in office. The strength of the American dollar has been going up in value since 2011. It's more costly to come here. That negatively affects tourism.
  • outdoorsmuscl...

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    Feb 11, 2018 4:14 PM GMT
    Cheapflights reports that there’s been a 25 percent decrease in searches for trips to the USA from the UK. That number may not sound alarming at first. It should. The USA is massively reliant on tourism across most sectors and the UK is a big part of that pie. Surely, this is a harbinger of a trend — Thailand is already celebrating their expected influx of tourists.

    According to the U.S. Travel Association, we make an insane amount of money and employ millions from travel to the USA. Here are a few highlights:

    Tourists spend $108.1 million an hour in the USA.

    Tourists spend $2.1 trillion in the USA every year, half of which goes to secondary small businesses like bars, restaurants, theaters, and so on.

    All of this generates $147.9 billion in annual tax revenue at the city, state, and federal levels.

    Travel ranks as the seventh largest industry in the USA.

    http://uproxx.com/life/travel-usa-boycott-jobs-money-trump/


    roadbikeRob saidSo what, who cares! Tourism is mostly a low wage industry with dead end job positions.
  • outdoorsmuscl...

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    Feb 11, 2018 4:28 PM GMT
    Keep drinking the kool aid from the illegitimatepotus, lying piece of shit ScUmTrUmP
    Facts are facts; The World Hates Trump and are staying away from the US.

    Fewer international travelers came to the United States during the first few months of this year than over the same period last year, confirming concerns of some in the travel industry.

    New figures released by the U.S. Department of Commerce show a drop in international visitors to the United States by close to 700,000 in the first quarter of 2017 compared to the previous year. European countries were down 10.1 percent, and Mexico was off 7.1 percent in the quarter. The largest drops were from the Middle East and Africa, though they represent a much smaller percentage of overall travel to the United States.

    Overall, 697,791 fewer foreigners visited the United States in the first three months of the year, down 4.2 percent to 15.8 million. According to Tourism Economics, a branch of Oxford Economics based in Wayne, Pa., that analyzes travel data, the drop represents a loss of nearly $2.7 billion in spending.

    As points of comparison, the first quarter of 2013 after the re-election of Barack Obama, international tourism was up 6.4 percent, and the first quarter of 2009, after President Obama’s first election (and during global recession that began at the end of 200icon_cool.gif, it was down 14.3 percent.,

    The question of whether the results prove a ripple effect from President Trump’s proposed travel ban on visitors from six majority-Muslim countries, an expanded wall along the Mexican border and anti-immigrant statements remains unanswered. But the data tracks with a decline in United States favorability abroad: In June, the Pew Research Center found that 49 percent of those surveyed in 37 nations had a positive view of the United States, versus 64 percent at the end of President Obama’s term in office.

    Last week, Pew reported that nearly two-thirds of Mexicans held a negative opinion of the United States, more than double the figure of two years ago, which stood at 29 percent.

    “It’s not a reach to say the rhetoric and policies of this administration are affecting sentiment around the world, creating antipathy toward the U.S. and affecting travel behavior,” said Adam Sacks, the president of Tourism Economics.

    In response to a Facebook post by The New York Times, European readers overwhelmingly cited the Trump administration and its policies as reasons for avoiding or canceling trips to the United States.

    “We are British Muslims and live in London,” Sabaa Farrukh wrote. “We wanted to visit N.Y.C. this summer but decided against it simply because we felt we wouldn’t be welcome there and didn’t want to waste precious holiday time in case there was a problem at passport control at the airport.”

    Others cited violence and safety. Marika Treichel, who lives in Denmark, wrote, “I have always dreamed of visiting the US. But the rise of gun violence and political chaos has made me want to cancel all future travels to the U.S. until I can feel safe as a tourist.”

    This has been a strong year for the U.S. dollar, which makes travel more expensive for other currencies — though exceptions make that an unsatisfying explanation for the tourism drop. The Canadian dollar, for example, is weaker than it has been in previous years (despite a summer surge), yet Canadian tourism to the United States was up 14.8 percent January through April.

    Within Europe, the tourism declines were largest in Switzerland at nearly 28 percent, Belgium at 20 percent and Britain at 15.5 percent. Britain accounts for the largest share by country of European arrivals in the United States, with 4.5 million tourists last year, making its slowdown significant. (Asian tourism was about the same as last year — up .6 percent — mainly due to a surge of South Korean travelers, up over 15 percent in the first quarter.)

    “The international travel market is ultracompetitive, and the U.S. is falling behind,” said Roger Dow, the president and chief executive of the U.S. Travel Association, a nonprofit that promotes travel to and within the United States, in a statement.

    A report released in April by the World Economic Forum showed the United States falling two spots in its rankings of the top 10 most popular countries for tourism in the world. The United States fell to number six, passed by both Japan and Britain.

    The economic picture is less straightforward, however. The Commerce Department’s National Travel and Tourism Office reported a 2.5 percent increase in spending by international visitors to $83.4 billion in the first four months of the year compared to the same period in 2016.

    Some of the decline in first quarter results may be because of the shift of the Easter and Passover holidays, when travel usually spikes. Those occurred in March of 2016 and April this year, possibly skewing first quarter figures. April figures ease the overall decline of foreign visitors to the United States from 4.2 percent to 1.2 percent. A boost in arrivals from Canada, up 7.8 percent through April after two years of declines, helped offset slowdowns from Mexico at 4.9 percent for the first four months of the year and Britain. at 6.9 percent for the same period.

    Factoring in the April figures brings the loss to the U.S. economy to $1.7 billion, according to Tourism Economics.

    Some tour operators have already felt the freeze. Intrepid Travel reported a 24 percent decrease in bookings to the United States this year to date compared to the same period last year, while trips to Canada are up 40 percent.

    “Given the current political and social climate, now is an especially important time for the travel industry to stand for open borders, inclusivity and the celebration of diversity,” wrote Leigh Barnes, the regional director for Intrepid Travel, in an email.

    Lucy Taylor, an Australian who is spending several weeks this summer and fall visiting the United States with her husband, altered the couple’s itinerary based on anticipated xenophobia.

    “We decided not to do a road trip across the U.S. and just to stick to blue states,” she said. “We weren’t sure what kind of reception we would have.”
    https://www.nytimes.com/2017/09/19/travel/tourism-united-states-international-decline.html


    MuchoMasQueMusculo saidLook at ElNathB on his sock account trying to work us up into a frenzy over these negligible numbers.

    So, depending on whom you want to believe it's either 9.3% from the Department of Commerce or a mere 2.4% according to the U.S. Travel Association.

    These numbers are insignificant at best and there are several factors that have resulted in fewer visitors to the US. The decline started back as early as 2016 when Obama was still in office. The strength of the American dollar has been going up in value since 2011. It's more costly to come here. That negatively affects tourism.
  • roadbikeRob

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    Feb 11, 2018 11:46 PM GMT
    outdoorsmuscleguy saidKeep drinking the kool aid from the illegitimatepotus, lying piece of shit ScUmTrUmP
    Facts are facts; The World Hates Trump and are staying away from the US.

    Fewer international travelers came to the United States during the first few months of this year than over the same period last year, confirming concerns of some in the travel industry.

    New figures released by the U.S. Department of Commerce show a drop in international visitors to the United States by close to 700,000 in the first quarter of 2017 compared to the previous year. European countries were down 10.1 percent, and Mexico was off 7.1 percent in the quarter. The largest drops were from the Middle East and Africa, though they represent a much smaller percentage of overall travel to the United States.

    Overall, 697,791 fewer foreigners visited the United States in the first three months of the year, down 4.2 percent to 15.8 million. According to Tourism Economics, a branch of Oxford Economics based in Wayne, Pa., that analyzes travel data, the drop represents a loss of nearly $2.7 billion in spending.

    As points of comparison, the first quarter of 2013 after the re-election of Barack Obama, international tourism was up 6.4 percent, and the first quarter of 2009, after President Obama’s first election (and during global recession that began at the end of 200icon_cool.gif, it was down 14.3 percent.,

    The question of whether the results prove a ripple effect from President Trump’s proposed travel ban on visitors from six majority-Muslim countries, an expanded wall along the Mexican border and anti-immigrant statements remains unanswered. But the data tracks with a decline in United States favorability abroad: In June, the Pew Research Center found that 49 percent of those surveyed in 37 nations had a positive view of the United States, versus 64 percent at the end of President Obama’s term in office.

    Last week, Pew reported that nearly two-thirds of Mexicans held a negative opinion of the United States, more than double the figure of two years ago, which stood at 29 percent.

    “It’s not a reach to say the rhetoric and policies of this administration are affecting sentiment around the world, creating antipathy toward the U.S. and affecting travel behavior,” said Adam Sacks, the president of Tourism Economics.

    In response to a Facebook post by The New York Times, European readers overwhelmingly cited the Trump administration and its policies as reasons for avoiding or canceling trips to the United States.

    “We are British Muslims and live in London,” Sabaa Farrukh wrote. “We wanted to visit N.Y.C. this summer but decided against it simply because we felt we wouldn’t be welcome there and didn’t want to waste precious holiday time in case there was a problem at passport control at the airport.”

    Others cited violence and safety. Marika Treichel, who lives in Denmark, wrote, “I have always dreamed of visiting the US. But the rise of gun violence and political chaos has made me want to cancel all future travels to the U.S. until I can feel safe as a tourist.”

    This has been a strong year for the U.S. dollar, which makes travel more expensive for other currencies — though exceptions make that an unsatisfying explanation for the tourism drop. The Canadian dollar, for example, is weaker than it has been in previous years (despite a summer surge), yet Canadian tourism to the United States was up 14.8 percent January through April.

    Within Europe, the tourism declines were largest in Switzerland at nearly 28 percent, Belgium at 20 percent and Britain at 15.5 percent. Britain accounts for the largest share by country of European arrivals in the United States, with 4.5 million tourists last year, making its slowdown significant. (Asian tourism was about the same as last year — up .6 percent — mainly due to a surge of South Korean travelers, up over 15 percent in the first quarter.)

    “The international travel market is ultracompetitive, and the U.S. is falling behind,” said Roger Dow, the president and chief executive of the U.S. Travel Association, a nonprofit that promotes travel to and within the United States, in a statement.

    A report released in April by the World Economic Forum showed the United States falling two spots in its rankings of the top 10 most popular countries for tourism in the world. The United States fell to number six, passed by both Japan and Britain.

    The economic picture is less straightforward, however. The Commerce Department’s National Travel and Tourism Office reported a 2.5 percent increase in spending by international visitors to $83.4 billion in the first four months of the year compared to the same period in 2016.

    Some of the decline in first quarter results may be because of the shift of the Easter and Passover holidays, when travel usually spikes. Those occurred in March of 2016 and April this year, possibly skewing first quarter figures. April figures ease the overall decline of foreign visitors to the United States from 4.2 percent to 1.2 percent. A boost in arrivals from Canada, up 7.8 percent through April after two years of declines, helped offset slowdowns from Mexico at 4.9 percent for the first four months of the year and Britain. at 6.9 percent for the same period.

    Factoring in the April figures brings the loss to the U.S. economy to $1.7 billion, according to Tourism Economics.

    Some tour operators have already felt the freeze. Intrepid Travel reported a 24 percent decrease in bookings to the United States this year to date compared to the same period last year, while trips to Canada are up 40 percent.

    “Given the current political and social climate, now is an especially important time for the travel industry to stand for open borders, inclusivity and the celebration of diversity,” wrote Leigh Barnes, the regional director for Intrepid Travel, in an email.

    Lucy Taylor, an Australian who is spending several weeks this summer and fall visiting the United States with her husband, altered the couple’s itinerary based on anticipated xenophobia.

    “We decided not to do a road trip across the U.S. and just to stick to blue states,” she said. “We weren’t sure what kind of reception we would have.”
    https://www.nytimes.com/2017/09/19/travel/tourism-united-states-international-decline.html


    MuchoMasQueMusculo saidLook at ElNathB on his sock account trying to work us up into a frenzy over these negligible numbers.

    So, depending on whom you want to believe it's either 9.3% from the Department of Commerce or a mere 2.4% according to the U.S. Travel Association.

    These numbers are insignificant at best and there are several factors that have resulted in fewer visitors to the US. The decline started back as early as 2016 when Obama was still in office. The strength of the American dollar has been going up in value since 2011. It's more costly to come here. That negatively affects tourism.
    Tourism is a mostly minimum wage industry that pays most of its workers poverty level wages. Who gives a shit about it?
  • MuchoMasQueMu...

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    Feb 12, 2018 2:55 AM GMT
    Nate keeps calling Trump a lying piece of shit. Oh, the irony coming from his sock account where he hides behind someone else's photos. icon_lol.gif
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    Feb 12, 2018 5:19 PM GMT
    MuchoMasQueMusculo said
    Nate keeps calling Trump a lying piece of shit. Oh, the irony coming from his sock account where he hides behind someone else's photos. icon_lol.gif

    You have proof of your slander? Whose pics are they?
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    Feb 12, 2018 5:58 PM GMT
    roadbikeRob said
    So what, who cares! Tourism is mostly a low wage industry with dead end job positions.

    You really are more stupid that I give you credit for. Let’s talk about the “low wage, dead end” tourist industry.

    It’s Florida’s largest source of income, estimated at $40 billion annually. Supports the bulk of the economy here. And foreign visitors are a big part of that, especially during the European winter because of our weather. We’re hosting one such visitor in our home right now.

    Airlines and cruise ships are hardly low-wage, nor dead end. A friend of ours just retired after over 30 years with Delta airlines, and is very comfortable, with 2 homes. My husband’s niece also retired from Delta, and now is a security chief with Disneyworld, Orlando, making well into 6 figures, in addition to her Delta pension. Some low wage!

    And speaking of Orlando theme parks, there’s an example of a thriving industry with many good-paying jobs. Plus our 2 main cruise ports, Port Everglades and Port of Miami, are the largest in the world. And home to the largest cruise ships in the world. Our hotels are wonderful, there’s lots of world-class entertainment, and it’s largely driven by tourism.

    No, sorry, but tourism can be a very major industry, with excellent paying jobs. You should learn not to “shoot from the lip” as we said in the Army.
  • roadbikeRob

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    Mar 27, 2018 6:41 PM GMT
    MuchoMasQueMusculo saidNate keeps calling Trump a lying piece of shit. Oh, the irony coming from his sock account where he hides behind someone else's photos. icon_lol.gif
    He is most likely a sock puppet of Fart Decoicon_lol.gif
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    Mar 27, 2018 10:29 PM GMT
    roadbikeRob said
    He is most likely a sock puppet of Fart Decoicon_lol.gif

    I've never had a sock on this site, nor will I. Your evidence for that false statement?

    My account has 48, 500+ posts. And that on top of posting with socks???

    And BTW, I have friends who manage some of the hotels here in South Florida. They are indeed down from previous years. I hesitate to say 'hurting'; they have corporate money to cushion them, for a time.

    On the other hand, the gay guest houses here that I know are actually doing quite well. The Fort Lauderdale/Wilton Manors area remains a gay mecca, and thrives. Mostly American visitors, I rarely run into any from overseas, or even Canada.

    But it's keeping our local gay guest houses full, I think the weather up north a factor, and that's good for us. The mega hotel skyscrapers along the beach are doing less well, is my impression. They can crumble into dust, for all I care. Ugly corporate things that ruined the unique personality of Fort Lauderdale and other beach communities.