He was 21 and fit. He tried to push through the flu — and it killed him.

  • metta

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    Jan 11, 2018 6:55 PM GMT
    He was 21 and fit. He tried to push through the flu — and it killed him.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/to-your-health/wp/2018/01/10/he-was-21-and-fit-he-tried-to-push-through-the-flu-and-it-killed-him/


    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5253577/Bodybuilder-21-dies-FLU-five-days-catching-it.html
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    Jan 11, 2018 7:28 PM GMT
    And he apparently didn’t have the flu shot. I’ve had the flu twice, before the shots were common. Not a pleasant experience to have the flu.

    We get the flu shot every year. Not a guarantee against getting it, but when you do have the flu the effects may be lessened.

    And at our ages the flu can be deadly. But even deadly to younger people. At 21 like this guy? That should get some attention here.
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    Jan 11, 2018 8:57 PM GMT
    His version of "Fit" is very unhealthy. You can determine from the picture that he has an insufficient % of body fat and likely wasn't properly hydrated:

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    Jan 11, 2018 10:05 PM GMT
    art_deco saidAnd he apparently didn’t have the flu shot. I’ve had the flu twice, before the shots were common. Not a pleasant experience to have the flu.

    We get the flu shot every year. Not a guarantee against getting it, but when you do have the flu the effects may be lessened.

    And at our ages the flu can be deadly. But even deadly to younger people. At 21 like this guy? That should get some attention here.


    How would you know if he had the vaccination?

    It has been published that this year's flu shot may be as little as only 10% effective.
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    Jan 11, 2018 10:17 PM GMT
    You have to listen to your body. I don’t train through anything other than a mild head cold.
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    Jan 11, 2018 10:48 PM GMT
    An ex-BF of mine was obsessed with lowering his body fat. He kept it around 9%. My own never got below between 9 & 10%, when I taught college phy ed.

    One time we went to the Minneapolis Rennaisance Fair (RenFair). We we walking around all day when I saw him getting shaky and vague. I tried to catch him, but he stumbled and crashed into a vendor's clothing rack, passing out cold on the ground.

    I know people assumed he was drunk, but neither of us had consumed any alcohol. I yelled for medical help, said he was having a seizure. He had no history of it, but that was better than being considered drunk, and got the fair medical people there ASAP. I had no idea what this was, I just wanted him seen by medics, not by the police, so I invented.

    A golf cart kinda ambulance took him away, with me trying to jog behind. In the medical tent the doctor determined he had a sugar crash, and he recovered. We deaprted, me driving his car.

    Back home a few days later his own doctor said he crashed because he had sufficient fat on his body, no reserves. Evidently you can be TOO lean with body fat.

    You can have muscle strength, but no stamina. It's a matter of balance. That he exceeded.
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    Jan 12, 2018 12:33 AM GMT
    mx5guynj saidHis version of "Fit" is very unhealthy. You can determine from the picture that he has an insufficient % of body fat and likely wasn't properly hydrated:

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    Jan 12, 2018 12:37 AM GMT
    In the massive 1918 Spanish flu pandemic most of the casualties were among healthy young people and it wasn't because they were leaner.

    Quoting wikipedia on the pandemic:

    "Modern analysis has shown the virus to be particularly deadly because it triggers a cytokine storm, which ravages the stronger immune system of young adults.[26]"
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    Jan 12, 2018 2:06 AM GMT
    bachian said
    mx5guynj saidHis version of "Fit" is very unhealthy. You can determine from the picture that he has an insufficient % of body fat and likely wasn't properly hydrated:

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    First of all, he looks 8-9% in this photo - duh he's 21 and has the metabolism of a hummingbird. I don't think this very reasonable BF% could be cause of death. He worked at night at WM unloading trucks so I bet it was more lack of sleep and cold weather (Pittsburgh brr). I still workout when I'm sick, but not as hard and not at the expense of extra rest.

    PS I wish there was a way for me to fully block mx5douche, I still have to see his stupid comments when quoted
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    Jan 12, 2018 2:10 AM GMT
    I suppose some people are more susceptible to flu and or walking pneumonia than others. Both involve the nasal- bronchial tubes. I have never had the flu but have suffered allergies all my life contributing to colds. Turns out though, most of these "colds" were actually sinus infections, which if not taken care of, may start to infect the lungs turning into pneumonia

    Instead of "flu shots", I have kept sinus infections and their colds away for the most part by simple nasal irrigation. The key to keeping cold, flu and sinusitis away is controlling the mucus. Sinus infections, cold and flu happen when mucus gets trapped in nasal passages, cant get out. Ive literally had a "bloody mucus clot" come out after some try's. No matter how "healthy" or fit one seems to be, mucus and the prevention of infection might be the better route

    Mucus is normal clear (like watery cum) when you hock it up or blow your nose, Mucus that is yellow or green, then you have a infection. The problem starts out as a cold or flu, which is a viral infection (no medicine), when its turns to sinus (bacterial), antibiotics usually is the medical treatment

    Keep that mucus under control, I really do think that "chicken soup" works well due to the fact, steam, heat and spices, clear and or drain this mucus




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    It might be gross, but learning how to get that mucus out of the nasal and lung, will keep most from getting sick, that and washing hands

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    Jan 12, 2018 2:28 AM GMT
    art_deco saidAnd he apparently didn’t have the flu shot. I’ve had the flu twice, before the shots were common. Not a pleasant experience to have the flu.

    We get the flu shot every year. Not a guarantee against getting it, but when you do have the flu the effects may be lessened.

    And at our ages the flu can be deadly. But even deadly to younger people. At 21 like this guy? That should get some attention here.


    Flu shot is only about 32% effective thus far this season.
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    Jan 12, 2018 2:29 AM GMT
    Ive seen this on TV but I have never tried it, Navage

    If anyone is susceptible to the flu, I would def recommend nasal irrigation on a regular basis


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    Jan 12, 2018 2:45 AM GMT
    HikerSkier said
    art_deco saidAnd he apparently didn’t have the flu shot. I’ve had the flu twice, before the shots were common. Not a pleasant experience to have the flu.

    We get the flu shot every year. Not a guarantee against getting it, but when you do have the flu the effects may be lessened.

    And at our ages the flu can be deadly. But even deadly to younger people. At 21 like this guy? That should get some attention here.


    How would you know if he had the vaccination?

    It has been published that this year's flu shot may be as little as only 10% effective.

    "Baughman’s mother confirmed that her son did not get a flu shot this season."

    I know because I research & read. Do you?

    https://heavy.com/news/2018/01/kyler-baughman-died-flu-cause-of-death/
  • myrosebud

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    Jan 12, 2018 3:51 AM GMT
    It can't just be the flu. Maybe we should doublecheck. Can I be the coroner?
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    Jan 12, 2018 9:26 AM GMT
    art_deco said
    HikerSkier said
    art_deco saidAnd he apparently didn’t have the flu shot. I’ve had the flu twice, before the shots were common. Not a pleasant experience to have the flu.

    We get the flu shot every year. Not a guarantee against getting it, but when you do have the flu the effects may be lessened.

    And at our ages the flu can be deadly. But even deadly to younger people. At 21 like this guy? That should get some attention here.


    How would you know if he had the vaccination?

    It has been published that this year's flu shot may be as little as only 10% effective.

    "Baughman’s mother confirmed that her son did not get a flu shot this season."

    I know because I research & read. Do you?
    No not usually past the the original article - Someone like you will find more detail if it';s there.

    https://heavy.com/news/2018/01/kyler-baughman-died-flu-cause-of-death/
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    Jan 12, 2018 3:03 PM GMT
    HikerSkier said
    art_deco said
    HikerSkier said
    art_deco saidAnd he apparently didn’t have the flu shot. I’ve had the flu twice, before the shots were common. Not a pleasant experience to have the flu.

    We get the flu shot every year. Not a guarantee against getting it, but when you do have the flu the effects may be lessened.

    And at our ages the flu can be deadly. But even deadly to younger people. At 21 like this guy? That should get some attention here.

    How would you know if he had the vaccination?

    It has been published that this year's flu shot may be as little as only 10% effective.

    "Baughman’s mother confirmed that her son did not get a flu shot this season."

    I know because I research & read. Do you?
    No not usually past the the original article - Someone like you will find more detail if it';s there.

    https://heavy.com/news/2018/01/kyler-baughman-died-flu-cause-of-death/

    Actually another ariticle in which I originally read this story mentioned that he didn't get this year's flu shot.
  • bro4bro

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    Jan 12, 2018 5:18 PM GMT
    There was a very good article on the 1918 flu pandemic in the October issue of Smithsonian Magazine:

    https://www.smithsonianmag.com/history/journal-plague-year-180965222/

    As Bachian said, that pandemic killed healthy people in the prime of life as well as the elderly and newborn. The primary difference between that strain of the flu and others is that most affect only the upper respiratory system, but the 1918 version went deep into the lungs. Most of its victims died within a day or two of being infected. The flu virus in constantly mutating into new strains, which is why the vaccine isn't always effective. Sooner or later it will probably mutate into a world-killing strain once again.

    What's maybe the most disturbing is that the 1918 flu appeared first in Kansas, sickened many and killed a few people and went away, then reappeared in Switzerland in an even deadlier form and swept across the globe. It was known as Spanish flu because during WWI most of the European and American press was strictly censored, and the Spanish - who were not at war - were the only ones to publish a great deal about it. When the smoke cleared it had killed more people than World War I and World War II combined. It killed more people in a single year than AIDS has killed in the past 40 years.

    My grandmother died in the 1918 pandemic. My uncle, 1 year old, was pronounced dead but revived. My mother was 3 years old at the time - she had me rather late in life. I grew up hearing from her older sister how terrible it was.
  • metta

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    Jan 12, 2018 6:26 PM GMT
    One of my friends has a compromised immune system. She is waiting for a kidney transplant. Everyone around her has been sick and she has not. She swears it is because she take two Vitamin D3's (each 1,000 IU) every day. I don't know if that is the case. But it may be worth looking into.