SamX/Covfefe> Mar Saba Monastery is located in Palestine.
Then the residents are "Palestinians"?
But these are GREEK MONKS living in a monastery in the Holy Land.
SamX/Covfefe> there are some Palestinian Christians belong to the Greek Orthodox Church
We're not talking about members of the Church at large but specific monks.
AyaTrolLiar/JPhleM> befuddled by Roman Catholic monks in America as he is by Greek Orthodox monks
Inapt (and inept) analogy, the usual reversal of the scientific method.
Where can we find "Roman Catholic MONKS" in the USA?!http://edwardsingreece.blogspot.com/2010/01/mar-saba-monastery.html
|| Most of the 15-20 monks there are Greek, but we were introduced to one American monk from California.
How odd that the Judean Desert, the Desert of Judea, is located in "Palestine".
Unless...."Palestine" is the Latin/European name for Eretz Yisrael, the Jewish homeland
and early 20th century Arab denials of the existence of "Palestine".http://www.realjock.com/gayforums/349491The Palestine Paradoxhttp://www.realjock.com/gayforums/2652202If you wish to discuss history and politics rather than gay rights, please take it to one of these threads.
[Edit: the boat in his photo has Hebrew lettering!
Consider how amazing it is that whereas in 1835 the population of the region that would become western Mandate Palestine [the Jewish state to be] after WW I was a few hundred thousand. Today there are perhaps 13 million. Yet the xenophobic Arab claim is that the land was full and there was no room for Jews. Thus now they claim anywhere Jews settled there already were Arabs. Wikipedia gives us the actual situation:
|| A map from Napoleon's invasion of 1799 by Pierre Jacotin showed the place as ruined. Umm Junieh was just by the ancient bridge Jisr es Sidd, which was also marked as ruined by Jacotin.
|| In 1875, Victor Guérin observed the village of Oumm Djouneh, sitting on a hill east of the river Jordan. In 1881, the Palestine Exploration Fund's Survey of Western Palestine (SWP) described the place, (then named Umm Junieh), as a stone and adobe village, on the east side of the river Jordan, on the top of the eastern bank of the river. It contained about 250 Muslim inhabitants
Why would there be a "Western Palestine" then absent an Eastern (Trans-Jordanian) Palestine?
|| In June 1912, the group moved from the mud huts and wooden shack of Umm Juni to the new stone-built compound at its permanent location.
|| The kibbutzim Deganya Alef and Deganya Bet are also close to Samakh's location, but not on land that belonged to the village
Edit 2: He removed his 1919 photo which proved the opposite of his claim. lol.
Dgania was not built on an existing Arab village or land.
The land was not "stolen" but PURCHASED.
Here is his now deleted photo. Note the Hebrew writing at the very center:
See also this thread, which touches on both the Greek Church and land sales to Jews:PALESTINIANS ATTACK CAR OF GREEK PATRIARCH IN PROTEST AGAINST LAND DEALShttp://www.realjock.com/gayforums/4350541