Our treatment of HIV has advanced. Why hasn't the stigma changed?

  • metta

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    Jan 25, 2018 4:45 PM GMT
    Our treatment of HIV has advanced. Why hasn't the stigma changed?





  • Element1313

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    Jan 25, 2018 5:16 PM GMT
    Because big Pharma has been historically truth challenged. And if a guy can't be responsible enuf to wear a condom can he be trusted to take his meds?
  • bro4bro

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    Jan 25, 2018 5:19 PM GMT
    You could ask the same question about leprosy.

    Short answer, because the disease is flat out horrifying. True horror is a difficult emotion to overcome.
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    Jan 25, 2018 10:34 PM GMT
    Because Liberals garner votes by wallowing in identity politics and victimization.
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    Jan 26, 2018 12:00 AM GMT
    AIDS is too horrible to even imagine. Sexually transmitted death to gay men. I think gay men are so terrified of it that we can not believe good news about it. What if we find out 20 years from now that we were wrong about PrEP? TAsP? Undetectable? We bet with our lives.
  • Bobo

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    Jan 26, 2018 4:31 AM GMT
    Getting hiv is a big deal lol. It’s a life altering disease. It’s kind of concerning that my generation doesn’t feel that getting hiv/aids is a big deal... a lot of my friends are running around, bareback and I’m not casting judgement, just concern. No glove no love y’all. Also, putting any kind of pill in your body really isn’t the best thing for you (to you prep users out there). Smart to play safe, but that’s why condoms were invented!
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    Jan 26, 2018 9:24 AM GMT
    If people think the stigma hasn't changed, then you didn't live though the Gay Plauge Era.
    My world is stigma free, when it comes to HIV. I do not judge. But I don't forget the past either.
    Also with what I've survived to be middle aged, and HIV free. I have to ponder if some of us were born with some king of HIV antibody?
  • timmm55

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    Jan 27, 2018 5:48 PM GMT
    Amazing defense of stigma.

    big Pharma
    Yes they are BIG, yes they make an insane amount of money. But they have also eliminated diseases.

    And if a guy can't be responsible enuf to wear a condom can he be trusted to take his meds?
    Are you blaming him for the initial infection? Condoms are 70% effective with anal sex. Did you know that? Most do not. http://www.thebodypro.com/content/75349/cdc-analysis-puts-numbers-on-condom-effectiveness-.html TasP also keep the user alive and well. A pretty good incentive!

    leprosy.
    Leprosy has been cured! But being a leper "a person who is avoided or rejected by others for moral or social reasons." is the definition of stigma.

    Because Liberals garner votes by wallowing in identity politics and victimization.
    What is the price of tea in China? Nothing to do with anything.

    What if we find out 20 years from now that we were wrong about PrEP? TAsP? Undetectable? We bet with our lives

    The drugs have been around for awhile, nearly 20 years already that I've used. You can stop PrEP whenever you wish, not so with TasP but why would I? I've been betting (and winning) since 1985. 1411 T-cells and zero VL as of last month.

    Smart to play safe, but that’s why condoms were invented!
    If condoms were the answer, when at it's highest use, why were HIV rates were still increasing? See above.

    CDC 2017: "In 2014, there were an estimated 37,600 new HIV infections—down from 45,700 in 2008.*" "Today at the 2017 Conference on Retroviruses and Opportunistic Infections, researchers from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) presented new estimates of annual HIV infections, or HIV incidence, in the United States. These are the first national HIV incidence estimates to be published since 2012, encompassing the period from 2008 through 2014. They reveal that, overall, annual HIV infections declined substantially – a signal that national HIV prevention efforts are paying off."

    Condoms are great for preventing STIs. Because that's all there is. Condoms are not so effective preventing HIV or pregnancy. There are much more effective medications.