The White Genocide in South Africa

  • giodude

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    Feb 03, 2018 8:47 AM GMT
    It doesn't exist

    History Lesson:

    During slavery white people, particularly the Dutch, took pieced of land for themselves willy nilly regardless of who was living there. The people either left or became slaves on the farm or "farm hands".
    Fast forward to Apartheid. White people again mainly Afrikaaners, possessed land that was given to them by the government (they didn not have to work hard.) Black people, coloured people, Indian people and Irish people (who were considered non-white) were removed from their homes in placed in shanty towns (townships) where the houses were made of corrugated iron/metal and they had to share taps and toilet facilities which were outhouses. Coloured people were put into better homes made of brick which had their own taps and bathrooms. ut the Afrikaaners who commandered the land turned it into farms, usually. South Africa is a very arable country. It's soils are fertile. FARMERS WERE GIVEN HECTARES AND HECTARES OF LAND, AND BLACK WORKERS, to farm the lands. Even in neighbouring farms, the farm owners' houses were kilometers apart. Because of their distance from the city, farmers kept their wealth within their houses which included jewelry cash etc etc. Farms are also usually based around smaller town like keraratera and Oudhsoorn which are basically little nothing towns where there is one church one shop and one school. Some are near metropolitan areas like Stellenbosch (stolenbodch) is near to Cape Town (forty five minute drive) and WYnberg which is part of Cape Town. Fast forward to 1994 when we were all "freed" by Mandela and the ANC which used to be far more honourable than they are now. Quite frankly they are rotten to the core.
    Now SA being an arable and fertile country means they is a LOT of long grass, and mountainous areas (particularly here in the Western Cape where I live) or large expansive fields in the Northern Cape. There were no reparations paid and most farm lands still belong to white Afrikaaners. Now being far from cities and town isolates the farm houses, where farmers still store a lot of their wealth despite electronic transfers existing. This makes easy targets for thieves. A wealthy, isolated house far from police reach (the police would have to drive out of town and then across the farmland to get to the house. .Might take an hour), ample hiding space in long grass or mountainous areas or just a large time frame to escape makes these farmhouses perfect targets for theft. Many times the farm owners or some of their family get murdered. And farm owners mostly are Afrikaaners. BUT ALSO many farmhands also get murdered if they get caught in the crossfire. And these farmhands are STILL black and coloured people. But these Afrikaaners pushing the white genocide myth don't report the deaths of the black and coloured people also living on the farms in their propaganda.

    The "white genocide" in South Africa is incidental. The targets are targeted because they are easy pickings for thieves. They just mostly happen to be white Afrikaaners because the history of the country. SO now they portraying themselves as victims, which they are in a sense but also not because they're not being persecuted because they are white they are just easy to steal from because their geographical situation. If reparations were paid and land given to their rightful owners those people would robbed and killed as well, which they many times are (these people being the farmhands).
    This genocide is a myth.
    What we should be asking ourselves is why Afrikaaners *still own most of the farmlands*.

    Hope that sheds light on the situation.
  • Apparition

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    Feb 03, 2018 9:02 AM GMT
    giodude saidIt doesn't exist

    What we should be asking ourselves is why Afrikaaners *still own most of the farmlands*.

    Hope that sheds light on the situation.

    Right or wrong. Ask the black farmhands of zimbabwe which race they would rather be farmhands for
  • giodude

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    Feb 03, 2018 3:22 PM GMT
    Well I must admit I know nothing of the social issues of Zimbabwe because I am South African.
    I assume you have asked all the black farmhands in ZImbabwe then?

    Regardless the white genocide myth is a south african fiction, not so much a Zimbabwean one. That's what I was addressing. Not the supposed opinions of the farm hands (which do matter very very much)
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    Feb 03, 2018 5:13 PM GMT
    What you are describing is not much more different than what was done to Native American Indians in America !!
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    Feb 03, 2018 5:39 PM GMT
    What you are describing is not much more different than what was done to:

    - the Aboriginals in Australia
    - the Mayans in Mexico
    - the Jumma in Bangladesh
    - the Papuan people of Indonesia
    - the Montagnard people of Vietnam
    - etc etc
  • bro4bro

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    Feb 03, 2018 6:07 PM GMT
    Don't forget the Irish.
  • mwolverine

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    Feb 03, 2018 9:22 PM GMT
    We need a kinder, gentler world with a thousand points of light.
    (Just having a Bush Sr. moment.)
  • MuchoMasQueMu...

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    Feb 03, 2018 11:06 PM GMT


    Guess all these people are lying then?

    https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=white+genocide+south+africa
  • giodude

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    Feb 04, 2018 12:16 PM GMT
    MuchoMasQueMusculo said

    Guess all these people are lying then?

    https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=white+genocide+south+africa


    This can't be a real person.
  • Apparition

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    Feb 04, 2018 4:36 PM GMT
    giodude saidWell I must admit I know nothing of the social issues of Zimbabwe because I am South African.
    I assume you have asked all the black farmhands in ZImbabwe then?

    Regardless the white genocide myth is a south african fiction, not so much a Zimbabwean one. That's what I was addressing. Not the supposed opinions of the farm hands (which do matter very very much)


    You dont know anything about the country that borders yours...how american of you. They tried what you suggested in zimbabwe. They kicked out all the wite farm owners and handed all the land to black natives. Right or wrong.

    Guess what, zimbabwe went from a civilized nation with massive agriculture gdp exports and abundance to worthless basketcase. The farms were left to rot and nothing ever gets done. Right or wrong. Trillion percent inflation on a good day. Seeing this the SA government wont do the same. Sometimes there is a choice of lesser evil. Like it or not.
  • MuchoMasQueMu...

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    Feb 04, 2018 11:03 PM GMT
    giodude said
    MuchoMasQueMusculo said

    Guess all these people are lying then?

    https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=white+genocide+south+africa


    This can't be a real person.


    Oh is that all you have to say on the matter?

    You are here to perpetuate lies and are in denial about what's going on.
  • kew1

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    Feb 06, 2018 12:15 AM GMT
    Your being a little unfair to Oudsthoorn, definitely got more than one church and shop. Stayed there a couple of times driving from Cape Town to PE, r232 a more interesting road than the N2.
  • giodude

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    Feb 06, 2018 6:37 PM GMT
    Apparition said
    giodude saidWell I must admit I know nothing of the social issues of Zimbabwe because I am South African.
    I assume you have asked all the black farmhands in ZImbabwe then?

    Regardless the white genocide myth is a south african fiction, not so much a Zimbabwean one. That's what I was addressing. Not the supposed opinions of the farm hands (which do matter very very much)


    You dont know anything about the country that borders yours...how american of you. They tried what you suggested in zimbabwe. They kicked out all the wite farm owners and handed all the land to black natives. Right or wrong.

    Guess what, zimbabwe went from a civilized nation with massive agriculture gdp exports and abundance to worthless basketcase. The farms were left to rot and nothing ever gets done. Right or wrong. Trillion percent inflation on a good day. Seeing this the SA government wont do the same. Sometimes there is a choice of lesser evil. Like it or not.


    Huh.
    South Africa fairs slightly better than Zimbabwe in that there is some kind of plan of action which goes deeper than simply handing land to unskilled individuals. But as I said *plan* of action. South Africa has the most powerful and advanced constitution and mental health policies and public health policies in the world. Just that nobody gives a damn about them and nothing is done. Like the land repossession here.

    Land wasn't just going to be given to people. The rightful owners would be assigned the land however there was agricultural education given to the original owners of the land and their families. SO no, we aren't like Zimbabwe. Zimbabweans didn't plan properly. And they also did something whereas we;re sitting with a woooooooooonderful plan and very little if any implementation.

    Regardless, the post was address the fictional white genocide, not the state of the farms that are the ostensible sites of such genocide.
  • giodude

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    Feb 06, 2018 6:40 PM GMT
    kew1 saidYour being a little unfair to Oudsthoorn, definitely got more than one church and shop. Stayed there a couple of times driving from Cape Town to PE, r232 a more interesting road than the N2.


    LOL last time I was in Oudtshoorn it had a porn shop and no bookstore. I had a friend there who used to have to drive to George to buy books here hehehe. But there was Dial-a-Bed and Musica in the central business *street*.

    The N2 is picturesque. I like it.
  • Jeepguy2

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    Feb 17, 2018 9:48 PM GMT
    No, white Genocide In South Africa is not a myth it really is happening.

    http://www.news.com.au/finance/economy/world-economy/bury-them-alive-white-south-africans-fear-for-their-future-as-horrific-farm-attacks-escalate/news-story/3a63389a1b0066b6b0b77522c06d6476

    The same thing happened here in the USA when after the American Civil war, the freed blacks started attacking white farmers in the Southern United States just as they are doing to the white farmers in South Africa today. In response my great granddaddy and most other white farmers in the south quickly banded together and formed a secretive fraternity known as the Ku Klux Klan. The Klansmen rode through countryside on horseback at night dressed in sheets carrying flaming torches, lighting crosses and generally terrorizing the superstitious former slaves many of whom practiced African religions like Voodoo and believed the Klansmen on horseback were spirits of dead Confederate soldiers.

    Any black man that dared to attack or kill a white farmer, rape a white woman, or in some cases merely got accused of it, was strung up a tree, mutilated, doused with tar or gasoline and lit on fire. If he was lucky the Klansmen shot him dead first, if not he burned alive.

    Needless to say the attacks by blacks on white farmers in the Southern US stopped REAL QUICK and many of the blacks decided to get the fuck out of the South and headed for cities like Philadelphia, Chicago, Baltimore, and Detroit. This mass exodus of blacks became known as the "Great Migration".