Beachcomber, most people on RJ ignore these trolls who are not only pathological liars but also racist Anti-semites.
Both were banned from the system about 2 years ago (with all their old posts deleted. No great loss that garbage, but makes the threads below awkward to read).
Now you've gotten a glimpse of their propaganda ping-pong, too.
Just so you know what type of people you are dealing with: The AyaTrolLiar JPhleM (my contribution to this name is changing another user's creative "AyaTrollah" to "AyaTrolLiar", JPhleM was derived by a 3rd user) claimed to have me on "ignore" for maybe a year. Yet magically he would respond to maybe 5% of what I said (the parts he thought he could handle, but failing there, too). He explained that "friends" were emailing him what I said. Indeed, he "explained" his posting minutes after I did because he was getting so much RJ email that he had to login at 10-15 minute intervals just to keep up (delusions are strong with this one, who likewise pretended to have been to Gaza and to read a textbook that is only available in Hebrew, never having been translated). Not that this would explain how said "friends" could login, read what I said, email him and have him post a response within minutes of my posting (he's a clever by half flunky fool).
Long con story short, turns out he created a sock-puppet and would constantly stalk my profile (evidently, by his report, at 10-15 minute intervals). If he actually emailed himself remains unknown. What else was there to do in his mum's basement?
On Facebook, another immature scheme got him into more trouble. He blocked me and similarly stalked me with a sock-puppet, then responding to what I said - in a way I couldn't see it and expose his lies. When friends asked me how come I didn't rip his arguments to shreds, the scheme unraveled. He ended getting kicked out or banned from those groups. So now he evidently has nothing better to do than stalk me on RJ - which after using for nearly a decade he thought was a "dating app"!
A 4th RJ user opined that he must be my sock puppet given that when I took several breaks from RJ, when I returned the AyaTrolLiar responded within minutes (he must have been waiting and looking for my posts, at 10-15 minute intervals, for weeks and months!). He further pointed out that his arguments were so weak, like a plant in the audience, they were designed to make me look good.
A 5th RJ user, much wiser than me, dismissed him as "an all around shitty excuse for a human being" and paid him all the attention he deserves: none.
He's so reviled here that when people heard about his FB fiasco... they asked me to give them a link to his profile so that they could pre-emptively block him.
While he lied that he was a history major (his FB profile said "music history", though he now claims that's also not true), he seeks to read history backward rather than forward through time. As if events in the 1920s were informed by realities today.
Palestinian Arabs exist today, ergo they must have existed 50, 90 and 200 years ago.
If it were convenient, he'd argue that the pilgrims were Americans (in the modern sense).
His warped methods start with confirmation bias (e.g. Googling for "gays spread aids" isn't going to give one the best sources), filtering out the 90% of the hits that nonetheless totally disagree with his query, then data mining the others for useful tidbits... and twisting them.
For example, he claimed that the Hizballah death toll in Syria of 1,048 was the best available number and that it could just as well be lower as higher. The source wrote that this is the absolute minimum, that Hizbullah has a history of lying about fatalities, and that the number is likely much higher.
Elsewhere he twisted a half sentence to mean the opposite of what the full sentence, paragraph, chapter and book say. (I own and have read the book, so immediately exposed the rat.)
Similarly he sought to twist what a historian wrote in his book to mean the exact opposite of the book's title (which he didn't volunteer).
Granted, he could be the "useful idiot" who gets this from bad sources. But if so you'd think he'd wise up over time rather than repeat the lies in other threads, hoping to fool those who didn't see the refutation in the prior thread.
He frequently argues from conflicting premises (A → B and NotA → C, as if that "proves" that B and C true)
There's also frequently a cascade of lies. SamX/Covfefe argued that "Jews started the violence in 1948". When shown wrong, he shifted to arguing that the Arabs were wronged (new lies) and thus they were right to start the violence.
He likewise explained that A and NotA can both be true "in different contexts".
Best to understand that their "integrity isn't to the truth (or logic) but to the cause.
SamX/Covfefe has opined that "lying for the cause" is like a "white lie".
He's also in the habit of vandalizing Wikipedia entries to make them more "fair".
Like, how "fair" is it to mention that Arafat was a terrorist?
Or that he was possibly gay?
You'd think gay Palestinian Arabs would take pride in their hero being gay.
Yet the gay stigma is so strong in that society that they can't tolerate the thought.
Talk about repression and internalized homophobia, eh?Why does virulent Anti-Semitism play such a large role in MidEast - and Holocaust! - discussions on RJ?http://www.realjock.com/gayforums/4015076French President Macron condemns anti-Zionism as anti-Semitismhttp://www.realjock.com/gayforums/4318921"Anti-Zionist" Jews, heroes of Palestinian Arab propagandists, are also ANTI-GAYhttp://www.realjock.com/gayforums/4226022Intellectual dishonesty hall of shame: Freedom of opinion/press is found in Iran, not in US or UK.http://www.realjock.com/gayforums/1443151