California Judge Rules for Antigay Baker Who Refused Cake to Same-Sex Couple

  • metta

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    Feb 07, 2018 4:12 PM GMT
    California Judge Rules for Antigay Baker Who Refused Cake to Same-Sex Couple


    https://www.advocate.com/business/2018/2/06/california-judge-rules-antigay-baker-who-refused-cake-same-sex-couple
  • metta

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    Feb 07, 2018 4:14 PM GMT
    It does not surprise me that a judge from Kern county would give a terrible ruling. It should be appealed and corrected. It is not legal to discriminate against LGBT people in the State of California.
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    Feb 07, 2018 5:19 PM GMT
    A decision by the US Supreme Court in "Masterpiece Cakeshop v. Colorado Civil Rights Commission" is still pending. The case was argued 12/05/2017.

    It'll impact a large number of services, such as catering, bakers, florists, and photographers who work in the wedding industry.

    If I were gambling, I'd bet that the court will have a nuanced ruling, based on the size of the business -- allowing a small mom & pop operation to discriminate, while forcing larger operations to treat all weddings equally.
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    Feb 07, 2018 5:56 PM GMT
    Hmm. I think the Supreme Court in Canada simply "read into" our constitution that discrimination on the basis of sexual orientation was implicitly prohibited under the same provisions that prohibited discrimination on the basis of sex, etc.

    It would seem contradictory for the courts to say it's discrimination if a big company does it but not a small company. It either is, or isn't.

    It's sure a mess when the judges have to decide who's rights trump someone else's given that religion is involved and that's protected. I think the judges will see which way the prevailing winds are and ultimately side with gay rights.
  • bro4bro

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    Feb 07, 2018 7:29 PM GMT
    It's no surprise this happened in Kern County. Kern voted in favor of Prop 8 more strongly than any other county in California (75% for, 25% against).

    The truth of the matter here, which no one on either side seems willing to acknowledge, is that this is not an issue of religion. It's an issue of homophobia and hatred.

    The homophobic baker said, "I cannot be a part of a celebration that goes against my lord and savior." But while Jesus H. Christ (assuming that's who she was referring to) never said anything about homosexuality, he did say people who divorce and then remarry are adulterers. So, unless the baker also refuses to sell a wedding cake to a divorced person, she can't rightfully claim this has anything to do with religion.

    I believe the Holy Bible also says don't eat pork or shellfish. And the Apostle Paul said people shouldn't get married at all, they should just spend all their time getting ready for Judgment Day (Jesus's, not the Terminator's) because it's coming real soon. Yep, Christianity started out as a doomsday cult. So, I don't see why this so-called Christian baker is selling wedding cakes at all - especially not to anyone who's serving shrimp at the reception!
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    Feb 08, 2018 2:05 PM GMT
    So Liberals, Gay or Jewish bakers should be forced to bake these cakes:

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    Feb 08, 2018 4:36 PM GMT
    mx5guynj saidSo Liberals, Gay or Jewish bakers should be forced to bake these cakes:

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    Hey MiXed up 5guynj
    Yes gay bakers should bake Nazi cakes if it is requested
    But I don’t think any Nazi s would go to gay baker
    Unless to prove an asinine point like your conservatism


    remember
    Jesus had 2 fathers and he turned out ok
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    Feb 08, 2018 6:13 PM GMT
    I mean reall, would one want a Christian Baker, to bake you a gay wedding cake, if they didn't want to.
    I'm sure liberals hunt these people out, just to make trouble.
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    Feb 09, 2018 12:53 AM GMT
    Ifbb said
    mx5guynj saidSo Liberals, Gay or Jewish bakers should be forced to bake these cakes:

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    Hey MiXed up 5guynj
    Yes gay bakers should bake Nazi cakes if it is requested
    But I don’t think any Nazi s would go to gay baker
    Unless to prove an asinine point like your conservatism


    remember
    Jesus had 2 fathers and he turned out ok


    So Liberals, a black baker should be forced to bake these cakes:

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    Should Bakers be forced to bake Mohammad cartoon cakes?

    Liberals: Cakes are an "Art".

    https://www.ice.edu/career-programs/the-art-of-cake-decorating
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    Feb 09, 2018 4:23 AM GMT
    mx5guynj saidSo Liberals, Gay or Jewish bakers should be forced to bake these cakes:

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    The things is...as I can tell by your very incomplete education... you don't comprehend that, Liberal, gay and Jewish bakers, bake cakes. Hitler and the Nazis (a very conservative group by the way) baked people.

    We don't bake people in modern civilization. It is recognized --even by U.S. conservatives-- as the wrong thing to do. So as an educated and thinking people who know history, we do not celebrate Hitler or the Nazis by baking them cakes...that would just be stupid. Currently, Jews, Liberals or gays do not get together to find a way to cart people off into camps, starve them, and systematically killed them, then burn the bodies to ash for easy disposal. So no one is really going to believe this horse shit example you're giving.

    As for the baker, according to U.S. Commerce law... if he wants to sell in a free market system that insures competition, then he needs to be willing to sell to anyone that wishes to buy or it's not a FREE fucking market and it blocks the gay population the right to COMPETE in that market...now it's a SELECTIVE market without COMPETITION. How the fuck does that work for anyone calling themselves a conservative????

    I grew up with true conservatives, I was taught to be a conservative... all conservatives I know think the baker is using his religion to fuck up a free market system.

    And---The baker didn't read the part of scripture when the very wise Christ says, "Give to Cesar what is Cesar's." In other words, God doesn't give a shit about money exchanging hands. When it comes to commerce or taxes, there is no fucking religion!!!!!

    Bake those motherfucking gays their fucking cake or stop calling yourself a baker. Go be conservative asshole preacher that wants the U.S. to be a religion controlled government like the one they have in Iran.
  • splooje

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    Feb 09, 2018 5:47 AM GMT
    To celebrate Hitler is to celebrate extermination of Jews, which would be hate speech, so the cake is illegal to begin with. So would a kkk cake.

    Love how Trumptards will let themselves be marginalized just to spite liberals.
  • metta

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    Feb 09, 2018 6:17 AM GMT
    bigots/racists are not a protected class. California state law protects he rights based on sex, sexual orientation, etc.