MAGA - Red States best at... Traffic Deaths!

  • splooje

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    Feb 22, 2018 1:26 AM GMT
    Because seatbelts are for snowflakes!

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  • MuchoMasQueMu...

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    Feb 22, 2018 2:06 AM GMT
    Wow, you really need to get a job instead of spending all your time on this site conjuring up all of these stupid threads. I would suggest you get a boyfriend if you weren't so socially and emotionally inept.

    This is just a correlation but it has nothing to do with causation. You are such a moron! It's just laughable watching you carry on. icon_lol.gif

    I'll spell it out for you. People who happen to live in rural areas just happen to be more conservative. Because they live in the burbs, they have to rely on driving their own car and driving on highways to get from point A to point B. For this very simple reason it's crystal clear why a person has a higher chance of being in a fatal car accident.

    People who live in urban areas like D.C. or NYC, who happen to be liberal, drive less in a big city and rely on public transit or are able to walk to work due to much closer proximity. Even if they drive in the city on small tree-lined streets, the possibility of them dying from driving in the city is almost zero because the speed of traffic is much slower.

    Explaining things to you is like talking to a child. I hope you learned something today. icon_lol.gif

    And you got that photo from this source which clearly offers the reasons why more fatalities exist in red states:

    "People who live in urban areas drive less, they drive slower, and they travel by other, safer, modes."

    https://usa.streetsblog.org/2012/11/20/why-traffic-deaths-are-more-common-in-red-states-than-in-blue-states/

    It says absolutely nothing about not wearing seat belts. You're caught in another lie yet again and AGAIN.

  • splooje

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    Feb 22, 2018 2:23 AM GMT
    Pretty sure your trumptard buddies Muskelprotz/Plooje/twomeninlove each spend 10x more time on their silly threads and 10x more likely to post misleading info - where were you to get your panties in a twist over it? icon_lol.gif
  • MuchoMasQueMu...

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    Feb 22, 2018 4:17 AM GMT
    ^ Catch RJ's biggest black troll member hiding behind one of his many white sock accounts in his own lies and what does he do? In obvious desperation he flails in a very poor attempt to deflect attention away from his own blatant ineptness by bringing other people into the conversation.
  • whytehot

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    Feb 23, 2018 3:24 AM GMT
    Trolls are fine by you as long as they're alt-right. That much has been obvious over the last year.

    Maybe to find a new way to argue, instead of just accusing every other democrat of being black. icon_lol.gif
  • MuchoMasQueMu...

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    Feb 23, 2018 8:27 AM GMT
    whytehot saidTrolls are fine by you as long as they're alt-right. That much has been obvious over the last year.

    Maybe to find a new way to argue, instead of just accusing every other democrat of being black. icon_lol.gif


    That's the second time you've mentioned that I've had my account for a year. Wow, you truly are keeping tabs on me. Now tell us again how little you care about this site?

    Instead of spending so much time perusing my profile every chance you get maybe you should invest your efforts into taking some new pics. Or even better, take new pics and get verified.

    By the way, do you still have the digital camera that you used to take your profile pics? You know now that good quality smartphones take better quality pics, right? icon_idea.gif








































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    Feb 23, 2018 12:58 PM GMT
    There is really no need to compete who is more retarded. Both Democrats and Republicans are a shame to the human race.
  • roadbikeRob

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    Feb 23, 2018 1:00 PM GMT
    Eunuch said There is really no need to compete who is more retarded. Both Democrats and Republicans are a shame to the human race.
    THANK YOU!
  • Bicycle_Nerd

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    Feb 23, 2018 8:36 PM GMT
    roadbikeRob said
    Eunuch said There is really no need to compete who is more retarded. Both Democrats and Republicans are a shame to the human race.
    THANK YOU!


    Yeah, the real metric is actually suburban vs urban development. The more a state's transportation and development policies favor car-dependent transportation, the higher the road fatality rate is. That's why we went from being the world leader in road safety in the mid 20th century to something like 14th today. Other countries, like the Netherlands, recognized the flaw in car-oriented thinking and reversed course completely in the 1970s and began, to varying degrees and success, designing around people first and foremost (which makes sense both socially AND economically).
    It's true that there IS a correlation between road fatalities and whether a state leans red or blue, but that generally tracks with the tendency of blue states to have more people-first transportation policies and/or higher ratios of urban to suburban/exurban development. The more miles driven per capita, the more road fatalities.
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    Feb 24, 2018 6:16 AM GMT
    Bicycle_Nerd said
    Yeah, the real metric is actually suburban vs urban development. The more a state's transportation and development policies favor car-dependent transportation, the higher the road fatality rate is. That's why we went from being the world leader in road safety in the mid 20th century to something like 14th today. Other countries, like the Netherlands, recognized the flaw in car-oriented thinking and reversed course completely in the 1970s and began, to varying degrees and success, designing around people first and foremost (which makes sense both socially AND economically).
    It's true that there IS a correlation between road fatalities and whether a state leans red or blue, but that generally tracks with the tendency of blue states to have more people-first transportation policies and/or higher ratios of urban to suburban/exurban development. The more miles driven per capita, the more road fatalities.

    Certainly some valid points, that likely factor into the total equation. But I would add to this the fundamental physical differences between the US and Europe that made cars become the dominant US means of transportation before they did so in those other countries. The physical include geography and weather, and there was also industrial strength and focus, as well, plus socio-economic elements, including personal income levels and social conventions. And BTW, Canada matches many of the US features, and it, too, has never achieved the bicycle road planning and usage that a small nation like the Netherlands has.

    North America had vast empty spaces over 100 years ago, and retains many today. And the weather was in many ways worse than much of Western Europe, except for Scandinavia. Our weather is much colder in places, with heavier annual snowfalls except in high European elevations. And our heat in desert areas is also much hotter and drier. Additionally the road system was not as developed as Europe's. Many US towns were exceptional if they contained 1 paved street that wasn't often muddy. And barely passable roads between the town and into rural areas.

    So that bicycle travel in the majority of the US was impractical except for short distances, and mostly in urban areas. Then with the introduction of modern factory methods, first widely exploited in the US if not entirely invented here, the new automobiles became available in great numbers at prices not requiring an upper class income. With widespread manufacturing came a general increase in personal income.

    And there weren't the strict European class distinctions that fostered the belief that ordinary people were reaching above their station to own an autombile. For them a bicycle was their proper place, or a city streetcar. Many early European cars were designed with a chauffer in mind, which definetely excluded ownership by "common" people. Add to that the American tradition of personal mobility with freedom of movement, greater than that seen in other parts of the world.

    All this also extended to farm regions, where the new affordable farm machinery being created in American factories caused crop production and farmer income to soar. Meanwhile Western European farms were slower to extensively mechanize. The smaller scale of their farms could make machinery less attractive to farmers, and possibly not even be cost effective when first introduced.

    The car came along as the perfect solution to many of the American transportation challenges and wishes, and when we could suddenly afford such heretofore luxuries. Do you know who bought many of the first Model T Fords? Farmers, to end their isolation and actually improve their productivity & incomes. It wasn't just the city folk who were riding in the new cars.

    Modest vehicles by European standards, but simple, relatively easy to repair and maintain, rugged to tackle unimproved roads, and most importantly, affordable. And especially when you could buy one with a loan with monthly payments. Something European banks wouldn't initiate on a large scale for ordinary wage eaners for years yet.

    So that Americans voted with their purses for the automobile, and our growing infrastructure made few specific plans for bicycles. You rode them on the streets of quiet residential neighborhoods, but not the city streets and the spreading national road network. Where vehicular traffic was already heavy by the early 1920s.

    I could expand on these issues for pages, but I've already written a very long post here. Perhaps members can add comments.
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    Feb 24, 2018 12:25 PM GMT
    Bicycle_Nerd said
    roadbikeRob said
    Eunuch said There is really no need to compete who is more retarded. Both Democrats and Republicans are a shame to the human race.
    THANK YOU!


    Yeah, the real metric is actually suburban vs urban development. The more a state's transportation and development policies favor car-dependent transportation, the higher the road fatality rate is. That's why we went from being the world leader in road safety in the mid 20th century to something like 14th today. Other countries, like the Netherlands, recognized the flaw in car-oriented thinking and reversed course completely in the 1970s and began, to varying degrees and success, designing around people first and foremost (which makes sense both socially AND economically).
    It's true that there IS a correlation between road fatalities and whether a state leans red or blue, but that generally tracks with the tendency of blue states to have more people-first transportation policies and/or higher ratios of urban to suburban/exurban development. The more miles driven per capita, the more road fatalities.


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  • splooje

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    Feb 27, 2018 3:36 AM GMT
    whytehot saidTrolls are fine by you as long as they're alt-right. That much has been obvious over the last year.

    Maybe to find a new way to argue, instead of just accusing every other democrat of being black. icon_lol.gif


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  • northbeach

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    Mar 07, 2018 2:54 AM GMT
    splooje said
    whytehot saidTrolls are fine by you as long as they're alt-right. That much has been obvious over the last year.

    Maybe to find a new way to argue, instead of just accusing every other democrat of being black. icon_lol.gif


    Take the "s" off my name and muchomasquemusclo will be singing my praises icon_lol.gif


    So true
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    MuchoMasQueMusculo said
    whytehot said
    Trolls are fine by you as long as they're alt-right. That much has been obvious over the last year.

    Maybe to find a new way to argue, instead of just accusing every other democrat of being black. icon_lol.gif

    That's the second time you've mentioned that I've had my account for a year. Wow, you truly are keeping tabs on me. Now tell us again how little you care about this site?

    Duh... I found out how long you've been on this site, too, with a single click. It's displayed automatically on your RJ profile. At least visible to those of us who don't access this site through a VPN or TOR, possibly using additional encryption, or similar methods, to disquise your origin. Although we kinda already suspect where it is.
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    Mar 07, 2018 3:33 AM GMT
    splooje said
    whytehot saidTrolls are fine by you as long as they're alt-right. That much has been obvious over the last year.

    Maybe to find a new way to argue, instead of just accusing every other democrat of being black. icon_lol.gif


    Take the "s" off my name and muchomasquemusclo will be singing my praises icon_lol.gif

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  • splooje

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    Mar 07, 2018 3:44 AM GMT
    two_meninlove said
    splooje said
    whytehot saidTrolls are fine by you as long as they're alt-right. That much has been obvious over the last year.

    Maybe to find a new way to argue, instead of just accusing every other democrat of being black. icon_lol.gif


    Take the "s" off my name and muchomasquemusclo will be singing my praises icon_lol.gif

    Said Fart Deco's sock.


    Art Deco is a pretentious self-aggrandizing old man who likely lives in his own fantasy. Sad, BUT imagine how much sadder it must be for someone to be so obsessed with such an unremarkable character that he would resurrect dozens of online profiles (from Pattison, ArtNouveau, God_said, etc... all the way to two_meninlove, plooje, etc) just to harass him. What a truly broken individual he must be icon_lol.gif
  • MuchoMasQueMu...

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    Mar 07, 2018 3:57 PM GMT
    splooje said Sad, BUT imagine how much sadder it must be for someone to be so obsessed with such an unremarkable character that he would resurrect dozens of online profiles (from Pattison, ArtNouveau, God_said, etc... all the way to two_meninlove, plooje, etc) just to harass him. What a truly broken individual he must be icon_lol.gif


    And for someone who's only had an account on this site for four months you know someone's prior usernames for the past several years how?

    You stupidly keep giving yourself away.
  • theonewhoknoc...

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    Mar 08, 2018 3:58 AM GMT
    splooje said
    two_meninlove said
    splooje said
    whytehot saidTrolls are fine by you as long as they're alt-right. That much has been obvious over the last year.

    Maybe to find a new way to argue, instead of just accusing every other democrat of being black. icon_lol.gif


    Take the "s" off my name and muchomasquemusclo will be singing my praises icon_lol.gif

    Said Fart Deco's sock.


    Art Deco is a pretentious self-aggrandizing old man who likely lives in his own fantasy. Sad, BUT imagine how much sadder it must be for someone to be so obsessed with such an unremarkable character that he would resurrect dozens of online profiles (from Pattison, ArtNouveau, God_said, etc... all the way to two_meninlove, plooje, etc) just to harass him. What a truly broken individual he must be icon_lol.gif


    muchmorethanmuscle: How dare you insult my friend southbeach and his sock accounts! Oh wait, how did you know!? You're not new here!!! Sock account!! Nevermind the hypocrisy!
  • MuchoMasQueMu...

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    Mar 13, 2018 2:33 AM GMT
    theonewhoknocks said
    splooje said
    two_meninlove said
    splooje said
    whytehot saidTrolls are fine by you as long as they're alt-right. That much has been obvious over the last year.

    Maybe to find a new way to argue, instead of just accusing every other democrat of being black. icon_lol.gif


    Take the "s" off my name and muchomasquemusclo will be singing my praises icon_lol.gif

    Said Fart Deco's sock.


    Art Deco is a pretentious self-aggrandizing old man who likely lives in his own fantasy. Sad, BUT imagine how much sadder it must be for someone to be so obsessed with such an unremarkable character that he would resurrect dozens of online profiles (from Pattison, ArtNouveau, God_said, etc... all the way to two_meninlove, plooje, etc) just to harass him. What a truly broken individual he must be icon_lol.gif


    muchmorethanmuscle: How dare you insult my friend southbeach and his sock accounts! Oh wait, how did you know!? You're not new here!!! Sock account!! Nevermind the hypocrisy!


    I can't decide what's worse. Your lousy attempts at juvenile sarcasm or that flat dimensionless garbage you scrawl on paper and pass on as "art."

    And above all, WTF was even talking to you?
  • splooje

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    Mar 13, 2018 4:48 AM GMT
    theonewhoknocks said
    splooje said
    two_meninlove said
    splooje said
    whytehot saidTrolls are fine by you as long as they're alt-right. That much has been obvious over the last year.

    Maybe to find a new way to argue, instead of just accusing every other democrat of being black. icon_lol.gif


    Take the "s" off my name and muchomasquemusclo will be singing my praises icon_lol.gif

    Said Fart Deco's sock.


    Art Deco is a pretentious self-aggrandizing old man who likely lives in his own fantasy. Sad, BUT imagine how much sadder it must be for someone to be so obsessed with such an unremarkable character that he would resurrect dozens of online profiles (from Pattison, ArtNouveau, God_said, etc... all the way to two_meninlove, plooje, etc) just to harass him. What a truly broken individual he must be icon_lol.gif


    muchmorethanmuscle: How dare you insult my friend southbeach and his sock accounts! Oh wait, how did you know!? You're not new here!!! Sock account!! Nevermind the hypocrisy!


    since when did mmtm become an ally of southbeach and an enemy of Art-Deco? icon_question.gif
  • northbeach

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    Mar 21, 2018 2:38 AM GMT
    Trump's rise had galvanized the dormant racists lol
  • splooje

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    Mar 28, 2018 11:51 PM GMT
    Plooje said
    metta didn't say in this topicYou should consider deleting this and repost it under news. This has nothing to do with being gay.


    Said the fascist right