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UWwrestler Posts: 3
Feb 25, 2009 3:38 AM GMT
I can't help but feel like this is a GOP robot that was handed a speech and told exactly what to say. The republicans are trying to portray a new fresh look, but try showing a man (or woman) who is not told what they need to say in order to be elected in 2012....
Feb 25, 2009 3:54 AM GMT
Jindal's rebuttal to Obama tonight was a pathetic joke. I'm sure it will play well to faithful hardcore Repubs, and to the brain-dead and easily deceived. But I think what the Repubs in Congress have to explain first is their disgraceful, organized silence in the Joint Session just now concluded, when they rebuked yet again the President's attempt for bipartisan cooperation.

What the Repubs have demonstrated is their obsession with undermining Obama, no matter what the cost to the nation. As their spokesman Rush Limbaugh has said, "I want him to fail." They proved that again tonight.
Feb 25, 2009 4:01 AM GMT
The Republican party is bankrupt (how apt) of ideas. It has to break away from it trogolodyte base if it wants to continue as a party. Right now it is a southern old white man's party that is being left in trash dump of history.

And it is pathetic that they push Jindal out there because he is a person of color.
UWwrestler Posts: 3
Feb 25, 2009 4:01 AM GMT
Jesus, that came out all wrong. What I meant to say (a bit more intelligent than the way I put it when I was fired up) was; feel like Jindal was tapped on the shoulder by the GOP to 'lead' their party into a new generation. I do feel somewhat of a stereotypical gay dem saying that 'the GOP seems to me like it is being run by a bunch of rich guys', but this was beyond choreographed.


They want to admit their mistakes for the past 8 years and benefit from them by saying "You elected Republicans to champion limited government, fiscal discipline, and personal responsibility. Instead, Republicans went along with earmarks and big government spending in Washington." But I can't believe that the republicans are looking for a different direction than the past 40 years.


I think they are trying to gain back the liberal Republicans by appealing to the younger demographic. Obviously, the dems do this to, but they HONESTLY do appeal to the youger, more liberal vote.




I know I'm posting a topic on politics (taboo), but this is a forum and I used it for what it was made for.

Cheers guys! Tell me what you think!
Feb 25, 2009 4:11 AM GMT
The rebuttal was very long winded. I wasn't even paying attention. I was just waiting for the Simpsons to come on.

I think the immediate goal for the Republican party is to repair their image and distance themselves away from the previous administration. Not sure how they plan on doing it. But good luck with that.
coolarmydude Posts: 3867
Feb 25, 2009 1:44 PM GMT
xrichx said, "I think the immediate goal for the Republican party is to repair their image and distance themselves away from the previous administration. Not sure how they plan on doing it. But good luck with that."



Meet Michael Steele, the RNC Chairman. It took 6 rounds of voting and the resignation of the white guys after each round to elect him. For better or for worse...
HndsmKansan Posts: 6572
Feb 25, 2009 1:49 PM GMT
The rebuke to Obama's speech was expected. There wasn't anything said that surprised me, other than the fact that the GOP seems to always have Jindal there... when will there be anyone else?
Feb 25, 2009 2:00 PM GMT
sober up a drunken horse thief, and he's still a horse thief.
Disc0Mat1979 Posts: 121
Feb 25, 2009 8:16 PM GMT
Dems always compare everything to racism when it comes to republicans. one thing that always made me laugh was how white democrats can get away with saying racist comments towards minority GOP members, while simultaneously accusing conservatives of being racists. he had a very inspiring message, unlike the dems who say only government can help us, like we're little babies. instead of dems listening to Jindal, they're jumping on the "token...." conspiracy.

here's a great link to another conservative american's POV who also happens to be a minority. it's pretty sad that i have be hypocritical for a moment and use race to prove a point. at least it will educate those that still have stereotypical views towards republicans.

http://www.youtube.com/user/machosauceproduction
Feb 25, 2009 8:24 PM GMT
coolarmydude saidxrichx said, "I think the immediate goal for the Republican party is to repair their image and distance themselves away from the previous administration. Not sure how they plan on doing it. But good luck with that."



Meet Michael Steele, the RNC Chairman. It took 6 rounds of voting and the resignation of the white guys after each round to elect him. For better or for worse...


1, Hillary Clinton: Woman
2. Sarah Palin: Woman
3. Barack Obama: Black American
4. Michael Steele: Black American
5. Bobby Jindal: Indian American

12345+Recession, potential depression = National Glass Ceiling

http://news.aol.com/political-machine/2008/12/18/barack-obama-and-the-glass-cliff/
Feb 25, 2009 8:28 PM GMT
Disc0Mat1979 saidDems always compare everything to racism when it comes to republicans. one thing that always made me laugh was how white democrats can get away with saying racist comments towards minority GOP members, while simultaneously accusing conservatives of being racists. he had a very inspiring message, unlike the dems who say only government can help us, like we're little babies. instead of dems listening to Jindal, they're jumping on the "token...." conspiracy.

here's a great link to another conservative american's POV who also happens to be a minority. it's pretty sad that i have be hypocritical for a moment and use race to prove a point. at least it will educate those that still have stereotypical views towards republicans.

http://www.youtube.com/user/machosauceproduction


Sorry but Jindal was absolutely terrible.

And I've yet to meet a black republican who wasn't annoying, hypocritical and/or brainless.
Feb 25, 2009 8:31 PM GMT
MonkeyPuck Posts: 210
Feb 25, 2009 10:14 PM GMT
Disc0Mat1979 saidDems always compare everything to racism when it comes to republicans. one thing that always made me laugh was how white democrats can get away with saying racist comments towards minority GOP members, while simultaneously accusing conservatives of being racists. he had a very inspiring message, unlike the dems who say only government can help us, like we're little babies. instead of dems listening to Jindal, they're jumping on the "token...." conspiracy.

here's a great link to another conservative american's POV who also happens to be a minority. it's pretty sad that i have be hypocritical for a moment and use race to prove a point. at least it will educate those that still have stereotypical views towards republicans.


If by "inspiring message", you mean factually challenged then you are absolutely correct.

He managed to bring up the fictional levitating train
http://www.newsweek.com/id/186409

Made incorrect claims about 140 million going to volcanic monitoring.
http://www.thedailybeast.com/blogs-and-stories/2009-02-25/jindals-eruption-of-hot-gas

And I think the best part of the entire speech this:

Bobby JindalToday in Washington, some are promising that government will rescue us from the economic storms raging all around us. Those of us who lived through Hurricane Katrina, we have our doubts.


So his example of government spending not working was when his party held a majority in both houses, and the presidency and couldn't defend people from standing water. Seriously? It had nothing to do with incompetence? And if that is such a great example of the government gone wrong why did he, as a member of the house, vote for it then?

And of course there is also this instant classic
Bobby JindalYou elected Republicans to champion limited government, fiscal discipline, and personal responsibility. Instead, Republicans went along with earmarks and big government spending in Washington.


Republicans went along with it? They held both houses and the presidency and they went along with it? No, they were doing it. They wrote the budget and took us to record deficit spending. They didn't go along, they led the way.

The long and the short is that Jindal is ether clueless or dishonest and either way I would hardly call that inspiring.
OutdoorAdvent... Posts: 86
Feb 25, 2009 11:26 PM GMT
The guy is hot, or at least my type. I'm attracted to guys with an exotic look, and he's got it. Jindel's been getting a lot of press, much due to his being the first Indian governor in the States, though I hadn't yet heard or seen him, so I tuned in with interest.

I'd date him in a flash...if matters of politics, honesty, and credibility didn't come up, and if he doesn't really talk like he talked last night.

He's the Clarence Thomas of governors, an all too rare Republican of an ethnic minority uniquely postioned to advance the well-being of under-represented and often disadvantaged minorities, yet instead advancing the Republican mantra of "Pull yourself up by your bootstraps" and the Republican ideology of every man for himself.

Discussion of the disenguinity, dishonesty, and polarizing nature of Jindel's reply has been well discussed in the above postings. I'd like to add to it his comment that Democrats want to spend your tax dollars to build a high speed rail linking Las Vegas and Disney World. It'd be difficult to better describe how Republicans view mass transit and the conservation of natural resources than this comment does. The comment is also a good example of the distortions and dishonesty Republicans, he apparently among them, routinely introduce into social policy debate:
www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=101073906

If this guy is a rising star in the Republican party, the best of their best, it'll get another trouncing in 2010. Let's hope.
Feb 26, 2009 6:37 AM GMT
I had high hopes for Jindal because of his youth, origin, and "scary smarts" as the Economist put it. So I tried my best to love his speech BUT...

It was divisive and polarizing, and most importantly, he didn't have any charisma at all. He talked like an airline steward giving emergency instructions to travelers. It was painful to listen to. In addition, the message was lacking.

Sorry Bobby.
carabin Posts: 452
Feb 26, 2009 7:03 AM GMT
if only americans focused on their once famous competence.... if only. colour shmolour, dynasties, victories for minorities. that's all good, but is it gonna get the ball rolling?