Tough Last Few Days

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    Mar 06, 2018 8:12 PM GMT
    A friend of ours died late last week. We attended the funeral yesterday (Mon). I hate funerals. Then last night we learned another friend was taken to the hospital for emergency admittance.

    We were able to visit him today in the hospital. He had a fall in his shower Monday. But no broken bones, brain MRI looks OK, today he gets an echocardiogram. He was in great spirits.

    He’s a close friend, we’ve taken him to Key West with us twice, have lunches & dinners with him all the time.

    Another of our dinner partners, a neighbor and good friend, had a heart attack 2 weeks ago. He looked quite a bit worse for it in the hospital than our friend did today. He was quickly discharged, the US hospital policy today, and in fact we’re sitting having drinks in a gay club with him right now as I’m typing this. He’s permitted 2 drinks a day, or so he tells us.

    I dunno. It’s tough getting old from many perspectives. Gotta keep fit and healthy, and I use RJ as one of my resources.

    But a lot of guys & gals I know don’t keep themselves healthy. Or medical issues beyond their control hit them. And so you have to watch them dying, and attend their funerals, of your contemporaries. And wonder when your own number is coming up.

    Yeah, getting old is a bitch. In more ways than one. Work full time at keeping yourselves healthy, guys! And best to start young, but never too late to begin.
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    Mar 06, 2018 9:12 PM GMT
    Dying is all apart of living.
    It's a fact of life.
    But then you never lived though the Gay Plague Era! Loosing many mates and loved ones., at such a young age.
    Very different from dying of old age.
    Or spent many years nursing in Aged care either.
    Your profession was more akin to killing.
    Being old, isn't for wimps.
  • transient

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    Mar 07, 2018 7:02 AM GMT
    Its hard when life piles hardtimes on you and you reflect on your friends poor health or badluck.

    Try to be there for them - give as much as you can in terms of time and support - what you give now you will receive in return in your times of need.

    Com força!x
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    transient saidIts hard when life piles hardtimes on you and you reflect on your friends poor health or badluck.

    Try to be there for them - give as much as you can in terms of time and support - what you give now you will receive in return in your times of need.

    Com força!x

    Et avec douceur

    When I visited the friend who had the heart attack I already suspected, because I saw his room was in the hospital's cardiac ward (DUH!). I went there not only to visit, but also to retrieve his car keys.

    He was taken by ambulance from another gay club with the keys still on him. His car was left behind in the large parking lot of a complex, that has a golf cart patrol for unauthorized cars, that get towed. So I spoke to them to allow his car to remain there until I could visit him in the hospital. And drive the car back to his place, which I did.

    But I didn't ask him what had brought him there, and he was still undergoing tests at that point, anyway. I figured he'd tell me when he was ready.

    When other friends asked me what happened I merely said he was in the hospital, undergoing tests, the diagnosis unknown to me. True statements. I didn't add that he was in a cardiac ward. The LAST thing you want to do in a gay community is start wild rumors with partial information. By day's end our friend would have been on his deathbed, awaiting an emergency heart transplant according to the rumor mill.

    But yesterday at the club he said quite offhand that he had a "mild" heart attack. Yet at 71 he looks in his 50s, not overweight, doesn't eat or drink heavily (I've never seen him even tipsy). Not athletic, but not sedentary either. And showed no obvious signs of stress, never has health issues, no shortness of breath, no trouble walking or using stairs, no complaints of chest pains, etc. So this hits out of the blue. Yah nevah know...
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    Mar 07, 2018 3:34 PM GMT
    two_meninlove said
    Dying is all apart of living.
    It's a fact of life.
    But then you never lived though the Gay Plague Era! Loosing many mates and loved ones.
    Or spent many years nursing in Aged care either.
    Your profession was more akin to killing.
    Being old, isn't for wimps.

    I periodically switch banned guys back on, to see what mischief they're engaged in at the moment. And this deserves a reply.

    I've said here before, and therefore you know, that I lost my first partner to AIDS. He literally died in my arms in a nursing home, after months of my personally caring for him. Then I had to make his final arragements. Compare that experience to any you ever had.

    I did volunteer for years in a progressive care home for the elderly. Among the things I did was call Bingo games for them (they loved my silly humor), and on Veterans Day I'd do an inspirational reading, made more meaningful by my being a retired vet myself. I've also done that here in Florida at a retirement community. (Can't let my Speech, Theatre and Broadcasting degrees go totally to waste)

    And then in the summer I'd move the residents in their wheelchairs outside to a picnic area and serve them during an "ice cream social". Or merely move their wheelchairs around the complex for them throughout the year, bring them books I might read, etc.

    Yes, part of my profession was killing. It also involved looking after my soldiers. I never had to kill any of the enemy, but I believe I helped my soldiers. Including the gay ones, that in the past you've falsely accused me of hating & persecuting.
  • MuchoMasQueMu...

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    Mar 07, 2018 4:24 PM GMT
    art_deco said
    But a lot of guys & gals I know don’t keep themselves healthy. Or medical issues beyond their control hit them. And so you have to watch them dying, and attend their funerals, of your contemporaries. And wonder when your own number is coming up.

    Yeah, getting old is a bitch. In more ways than one. Work full time at keeping yourselves healthy, guys! And best to start young, but never too late to begin.


    Does art inDECOrous consider himself to be healthy? At 5'7" and a whopping 190lb no one with any knowledge of health and fitness would consider a person of this size to be healthy. The only way that would be the case is a bodybuilder who is all solid muscle at that height and weight. And we all know that this isn't the case.

    1) Can you do at least ten push-ups?

    2) Can you do at least ten sit-ups?

    3) When was the last time you took your $8K bicycle out for a ride to get some air and exercise.

    For someone who is retired and who has no daily obligations there is absolutely no excuse why you can't adopt some type of exercise program and eat well.

    Instead you spend all of your time in the threads managing accounts on the site with a glass of Hennessy in arm's reach and a big bowl of pasta your roommate prepared.
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    Mar 07, 2018 4:35 PM GMT
    MuchoMasQueMusculo said
    art_deco said
    But a lot of guys & gals I know don’t keep themselves healthy. Or medical issues beyond their control hit them. And so you have to watch them dying, and attend their funerals, of your contemporaries. And wonder when your own number is coming up.

    Yeah, getting old is a bitch. In more ways than one. Work full time at keeping yourselves healthy, guys! And best to start young, but never too late to begin.


    Does art inDECOrous consider himself to be healthy? At 5'7" and a whopping 190lb no one with any knowledge of health and fitness would consider a person of this size to be healthy. The only way that would be the case is a bodybuilder who is all solid muscle at that height and weight. And we all know that this isn't the case.

    1) Can you do at least ten push-ups?

    2) Can you do at least ten sit-ups?

    3) When was the last time you took your $8K bicycle out for a ride to get some air and exercise.

    For someone who is retired and who has no daily obligations there is absolutely no excuse why you can't adopt some type of exercise program and eat well.

    Instead you spend all of your time in the threads managing accounts on the site with a glass of Hennessy in arm's reach and a big bowl of pasta your roommate prepared.


    ArtD: Not sure why MMTM brought up exercise for you in this thread, since you haven't said (AFIK) if you have any exercise routine.

    That being said, I have to agree with him in principle - You ought to be doing some sort of regular exercise, besides reading RJ forums, to get in shape. At 71 or whatever age you are, there isn't always tomorrow.
  • transient

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    Mar 07, 2018 5:23 PM GMT
    Plooje said
    art_deco saidwe’re sitting having drinks in a gay club with him right now as I’m typing this.


    You're in a gay club? You mean you're gay? Really?

    You were married not once but twice to females. You fathered children with them more than once.

    That's bi-sexual at best. But not gay.

    No matter how many times you try to convince us all you are gay, the facts speak for themselves.


    Why dont you just fuck right off?

    That rainbow flag represents the fractions of light waves directed through a prism.

    Get it?

    Many colours? Many variations? Many colours come from the same source.

    If your not going to stop your shit here, I suggest you go out into the real world, have these confrontational passive aggressive confrontations in person.

    Someone will break your nose.

    But I wish they would break your fingers, then you cant type your bullshit here.

    Leave the fucking man alone.
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    Mar 07, 2018 7:47 PM GMT
    [quote][cite]transient said[/cite]
    Plooje said
    art_deco saidwe’re sitting having drinks in a gay club with him right now as I’m typing this.


    You're in a gay club? You mean you're gay? Really?

    You were married not once but twice to females. You fathered children with them more than once.

    That's bi-sexual at best. But not gay.

    No matter how many times you try to convince us all you are gay, the facts speak for themselves.


    Why dont you just fuck right off?

    That rainbow flag represents the fractions of light waves directed through a prism.

    Get it?

    Many colours? Many variations? Many colours come from the same source.

    If your not going to stop your shit here, I suggest you go out into the real world, have these confrontational passive aggressive confrontations in person.

    Someone will break your nose.

    But I wish they would break your fingers, then you cant type your bullshit here.

    Leave the fucking man alone.[/quoteIf Daddy Deco can't take it, he shouldn't dish it to new comers to this site, as his did to me, and a number of others, Plooje being one of em. As for the American Rainbow flat, utter propaganda. That's why groups like the Bears and Bisexuals have their own flags.
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    two_meninlove said[quote][cite]transient said[/cite]
    Plooje said
    art_deco saidwe’re sitting having drinks in a gay club with him right now as I’m typing this.


    You're in a gay club? You mean you're gay? Really?

    You were married not once but twice to females. You fathered children with them more than once.

    That's bi-sexual at best. But not gay.

    No matter how many times you try to convince us all you are gay, the facts speak for themselves.


    Why dont you just fuck right off?

    That rainbow flag represents the fractions of light waves directed through a prism.

    Get it?

    Many colours? Many variations? Many colours come from the same source.

    If your not going to stop your shit here, I suggest you go out into the real world, have these confrontational passive aggressive confrontations in person.

    Someone will break your nose.

    But I wish they would break your fingers, then you cant type your bullshit here.

    Leave the fucking man alone.[/quoteIf Daddy Deco can't take it, he shouldn't dish it to new comers to this site, as his did to me, and a number of others, Plooje being one of em. As for the American Rainbow flat, utter propaganda. That's why groups like the Bears and Bisexuals have their own flags.



    He's a famous whimpering mouse who cries to all of us for attention, then turns around and kicks you in the balls with his extreme negativity, bullying and hatefulness. So his made up bullshit is all he has sitting in the Wilty Manors rest home!
  • k15thelement

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    Mar 07, 2018 8:49 PM GMT
    Two_meninlove and Plooje are still obsessed with Art Deco. 2bnaked is still on the bandwagon

    Art Deco still airing out his everyday business like a personal journal.


    Glad to see RJ's still the same icon_lol.gif
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    k15thelement saidTwo_meninlove and Plooje are still obsessed with Art Deco. 2bnaked is still on the bandwagon

    Art Deco still airing out his everyday business like a personal journal.


    Glad to see RJ's still the same icon_lol.gif

    Obsessed no. But I do find the sad little man amusing, and call him out on his delusional hypocrisies.
    But he also needs us, too remain relevant.
    Face it, people of his advanced years, do become invisible.
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    Mar 07, 2018 9:01 PM GMT
    two_meninlove said
    k15thelement saidTwo_meninlove and Plooje are still obsessed with Art Deco. 2bnaked is still on the bandwagon

    Art Deco still airing out his everyday business like a personal journal.


    Glad to see RJ's still the same icon_lol.gif

    Obsessed no. But I do find the sad little man amusing.


    So amusing that you can't help but appear on any thread that he's on? I'm willing to bet you replied to about 90% of his posts and I'm being generous. The sad thing is that I hope i'm completely wrong on that assessment but there's a good chance i'm right.

    Have fun though lol.
  • transient

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    Mar 07, 2018 9:35 PM GMT
    two_meninlove said[quote][cite]transient said[/cite]
    Plooje said
    art_deco saidwe’re sitting having drinks in a gay club with him right now as I’m typing this.


    You're in a gay club? You mean you're gay? Really?

    You were married not once but twice to females. You fathered children with them more than once.

    That's bi-sexual at best. But not gay.

    No matter how many times you try to convince us all you are gay, the facts speak for themselves.


    Why dont you just fuck right off?

    That rainbow flag represents the fractions of light waves directed through a prism.

    Get it?

    Many colours? Many variations? Many colours come from the same source.

    If your not going to stop your shit here, I suggest you go out into the real world, have these confrontational passive aggressive confrontations in person.

    Someone will break your nose.

    But I wish they would break your fingers, then you cant type your bullshit here.

    Leave the fucking man alone.[/quoteIf Daddy Deco can't take it, he shouldn't dish it to new comers to this site, as his did to me, and a number of others, Plooje being one of em. As for the American Rainbow flat, utter propaganda. That's why groups like the Bears and Bisexuals have their own flags.


    Who mentioned American rainbow flag?
  • transient

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    Mar 07, 2018 9:46 PM GMT
    Plooje said
    2bnaked said
    two_meninlove said[quote][cite]transient said[/cite]
    Plooje said
    art_deco saidwe’re sitting having drinks in a gay club with him right now as I’m typing this.


    You're in a gay club? You mean you're gay? Really?

    You were married not once but twice to females. You fathered children with them more than once.

    That's bi-sexual at best. But not gay.

    No matter how many times you try to convince us all you are gay, the facts speak for themselves.


    Why dont you just fuck right off?

    That rainbow flag represents the fractions of light waves directed through a prism.

    Get it?

    Many colours? Many variations? Many colours come from the same source.

    If your not going to stop your shit here, I suggest you go out into the real world, have these confrontational passive aggressive confrontations in person.

    Someone will break your nose.

    But I wish they would break your fingers, then you cant type your bullshit here.

    Leave the fucking man alone.
    If Daddy Deco can't take it, he shouldn't dish it to new comers to this site, as his did to me, and a number of others, Plooje being one of em. As for the American Rainbow flat, utter propaganda. That's why groups like the Bears and Bisexuals have their own flags.



    He's a famous whimpering mouse who cries to all of us for attention, then turns around and kicks you in the balls with his extreme negativity, bullying and hatefulness. So his made up bullshit is all he has sitting in the Wilty Manors rest home!



    Maybe Mr. Transient isn't aware of Deco's behavior towards those of us who don't march under the flag of the Democrat party like he does. So I will give Mr. Transient the benefit of the doubt. Perhaps Mr. Transient will even apologize now that he knows the truth about Deco.[/quote]

    'truth' is relative......Art hasnt done anything wrong with me in the ten years iv been here on/off.

    Im not sure about you, think youv been kindof harsh with me. And you should realise your obsessed with him - its just fucking weird.

    Who mentioned politics or Democratic party?

    This thread is about Art's friends health crisis.

    I suggest this gets back on topic, or we are violating the rules of the forum......of which we are supposed to support each other and not abuse each other.

    This once was a supportive community where I felt free to expose my insecurities, discuss common interests and provide advice and support.

    Dont hold your breath for the apoloogy - please just go have a real world conversation about these issues you have with Art , stop hiding behind your computer and go confront and out these horrendous bisexuals.

    Nest of vipers.
  • transient

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    Mar 07, 2018 9:49 PM GMT
    two_meninlove said
    k15thelement saidTwo_meninlove and Plooje are still obsessed with Art Deco. 2bnaked is still on the bandwagon

    Art Deco still airing out his everyday business like a personal journal.


    Glad to see RJ's still the same icon_lol.gif

    Obsessed no. But I do find the sad little man amusing, and call him out on his delusional hypocrisies.
    But he also needs us, too remain relevant.
    Face it, people of his advanced years, do become invisible.


    Your profile states 87 years old.

    Is this true, or are you lying about your personal info.

    Dies this violate the rules, or just moraly wrong to lie about your age?
  • transient

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    Mar 07, 2018 10:07 PM GMT
    And if you want to address me correctly, its Senhor Transient.

    Art......I hope your friends are on the mend and you find the strength and energy to help them in their time of need.

    Please do keep posting to the thread and let me know how your getting on.

    Im in the middle of a comunity wide crisis in the region I live and its only by support, kindness and sacrifice that we come together to keep the community together.
  • MuchoMasQueMu...

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    Mar 07, 2018 10:24 PM GMT
    Does anyone remember Jack Lalane? He passed away but he lived to be ninety-six!

    Here he is at seventy-one:

    Jack-LaLanne-at-71.jpg

    In his shape above he looks better than more than half the men you'll see working out at most gyms at any given time.

    People are so fat today. It's unacceptable.
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    Mar 07, 2018 10:33 PM GMT
    HikerSkier said
    ArtD: Not sure why MMTM brought up exercise for you in this thread, since you haven't said (AFIK) if you have any exercise routine.

    That being said, I have to agree with him in principle - You ought to be doing some sort of regular exercise, besides reading RJ forums, to get in shape. At 71 or whatever age you are, there isn't always tomorrow.

    I do exercise. At a local gym, to which I ride my bike. I ride my bike when alone, but take the car when my husband & I travel together. I have threads in the Cycling Forum, with pics, about my 165-mile bike rides for HIV/AIDS charity to Key West, all in my 60s (I'm 69 now). But admittedly I'm not doing them now, starting to have some limitations.

    I do spend a lot of time at the computer, being retired and rated 100% disabled. But I still bike locally, just bought a new bike last month, also discussed in the Cycling Forum. The pedal pressure I exert on the bike pedals, both of my bikes having multiple gears, is just a fraction of what my arthritic joints experience when I merely walk. I call them my 2-wheeled wheelchairs. LOL!

    But for when I get off the bikes I have folding canes I can carry with me. I adapt and thrive, no matter what circumstances I must confront.

    Do I exercise enough? No, I wish I could do more. But my disabilities limit me. Hell, I used to be a college phy ed instructor for years, and could smoke kids in their late teens and early 20s when in my mid-30s. You think I'm happy with this situation? icon_sad.gif

    But I do what I can today, and don't give up. Why else did I just spend $2300 on a bike and accessories if not to use it? Just to see it sitting here next to me right now? I don't have the money to support that kind of whim; I'm using the thing.
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    Mar 07, 2018 10:47 PM GMT
    EDIT: Forget about the pics I mentioned above. They're all blocked by my host, PhotoBucket. A free service for years, they suddenly wanted nearly $400 annually for anyone to post pictures to a third party, like RJ. And they blocked those I had already posted.

    Well, I won't pay that. They've subsequently dropped their price, no doubt due to lack of suckers who'd pay, and I still won't give them money. So for now I'm unable to repost or link those pics of me doing the SMART Ride.
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    Mar 08, 2018 12:46 AM GMT
    two_meninlove said[quote][cite]transient said[/cite]
    Plooje said
    art_deco saidwe’re sitting having drinks in a gay club with him right now as I’m typing this.


    You're in a gay club? You mean you're gay? Really?

    You were married not once but twice to females. You fathered children with them more than once.

    That's bi-sexual at best. But not gay.

    No matter how many times you try to convince us all you are gay, the facts speak for themselves.


    Why dont you just fuck right off?

    That rainbow flag represents the fractions of light waves directed through a prism.

    Get it?

    Many colours? Many variations? Many colours come from the same source.

    If your not going to stop your shit here, I suggest you go out into the real world, have these confrontational passive aggressive confrontations in person.

    Someone will break your nose.

    But I wish they would break your fingers, then you cant type your bullshit here.

    Leave the fucking man alone.[/quoteIf Daddy Deco can't take it, he shouldn't dish it to new comers to this site, as his did to me, and a number of others, Plooje being one of em. As for the American Rainbow flat, utter propaganda. That's why groups like the Bears and Bisexuals have their own flags.


    Another nasty, violent liberal. What a shocker!
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    PennsyGuy said
    two_meninlove said[quote][cite]transient said[/cite]
    Plooje said
    art_deco saidwe’re sitting having drinks in a gay club with him right now as I’m typing this.


    You're in a gay club? You mean you're gay? Really?

    You were married not once but twice to females. You fathered children with them more than once.

    That's bi-sexual at best. But not gay.

    No matter how many times you try to convince us all you are gay, the facts speak for themselves.


    Why dont you just fuck right off?

    That rainbow flag represents the fractions of light waves directed through a prism.

    Get it?

    Many colours? Many variations? Many colours come from the same source.

    If your not going to stop your shit here, I suggest you go out into the real world, have these confrontational passive aggressive confrontations in person.

    Someone will break your nose.

    But I wish they would break your fingers, then you cant type your bullshit here.

    Leave the fucking man alone.[/quoteIf Daddy Deco can't take it, he shouldn't dish it to new comers to this site, as his did to me, and a number of others, Plooje being one of em. As for the American Rainbow flat, utter propaganda. That's why groups like the Bears and Bisexuals have their own flags.


    Another nasty, violent liberal. What a shocker!


    Well, perhaps daddy Dick-0 donated to his home rebuilding cause. You know, once a liberal gets a few extra crumbs they're loyal to you for life.
    This website has turned into a bitch & moan site with all the excess SOY
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    Mar 08, 2018 1:26 AM GMT
    k15thelement saidTwo_meninlove and Plooje are still obsessed with Art Deco. 2bnaked is still on the bandwagon

    Art Deco still airing out his everyday business like a personal journal.


    Glad to see RJ's still the same icon_lol.gif


    I am not on any bandwagon. Miss. Daddy-Dick-O played his last card with me. I am sick of him spewing crap, causing hate, saying things about me that are totally untrue. He's accused me of being a russian cock sucker and more. I have been here longer than most and he's always been a prick! I tried to be nice, however, he's a jealous old goat that sits behind a wheelchair in wilting manors rest home. He asked for it, so I will give it to him. I am not lying or here to pick a FIGHT......But, if someone [anyone] slings shit....... I will give the shit right back to him! i know you get it, right? You must know!
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    Mar 08, 2018 1:30 AM GMT
    transient saidAnd if you want to address me correctly, its Senhor Transient.

    Art......I hope your friends are on the mend and you find the strength and energy to help them in their time of need.

    Please do keep posting to the thread and let me know how your getting on.

    Im in the middle of a comunity wide crisis in the region I live and its only by support, kindness and sacrifice that we come together to keep the community together.


    DUDE,

    Why are you wasting time here changing daddy-dick-o's pampers?????

    WHY???

    Don't you have a home to rebuild and thousands of trees to replant???? I mean if you do, GET TO WORK!

  • PennsyGuy

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    Mar 08, 2018 1:31 AM GMT
    2bnaked said
    k15thelement saidTwo_meninlove and Plooje are still obsessed with Art Deco. 2bnaked is still on the bandwagon

    Art Deco still airing out his everyday business like a personal journal.


    Glad to see RJ's still the same icon_lol.gif


    I am not on any bandwagon. Miss. Daddy-Dick-O played his last card with me. I am sick of him spewing crap, causing hate, saying things about me that are totally untrue. He's accused me of being a russian cock sucker and more. I have been here longer than most and he's always been a prick! I tried to be nice, however, he's a jealous old goat that sits behind a wheelchair in wilting manors rest home. He asked for it, so I will give it to him. I am not lying or here to pick a FIGHT......But, if someone [anyone] slings shit....... I will give the shit right back to him! i know you get it, right? You must know!


    #MeToo

    Deco crossed the line with me so many times. I kept politely asking him to stop. He wouldn't so one day I threw his past at him (married several times to women, fathered kids, his kids have cut all ties to him) and that stopped him from trying to bully me off this site. At least so far.