A Rant: Why Do Men Do Sissy Squats?

  • tonyatl

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    Mar 07, 2018 3:43 AM GMT
    WTF do men pile on weights on the barbell to ostensibly squat, yet they only go down 1/4 or 1/2 the way (thighs should be parallel to ground - lower being better). Weight lifting studies have demonstrated clearly that full range of motion is the only way to fully exercise the muscle and to build size.

    There is one punkass who comes to my gym in his tights, loads 365 or so, bends forward as though he is doing a good morning, and then bends at the knees for 6 inches or so for his descent. not only is it ridiculous and dangerous, but it accomplishes nothing at all. he thinks he is hot shit.

    it is far better to squat with an empty bar with good form than to showboat with lots of plates with crappy form.
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    Mar 07, 2018 4:00 AM GMT
    Ignorance is bliss. He doesn't know.
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    Mar 07, 2018 2:19 PM GMT
    LOL. I thought you were talking about ACTUAL sissy squats, which hurt like hell.
  • 24hourguy

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    Mar 07, 2018 3:54 PM GMT
    berimbolo saidLOL. I thought you were talking about ACTUAL sissy squats, which hurt like hell.

    I have to try this! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VUiFlZ2FsKA
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    Mar 07, 2018 4:59 PM GMT
    Because like all ego lifting - it's so he can claim he squats "x" lbs, in spite of the fact that if he actually had to squat it, he wouldn't be able to.
  • MuchoMasQueMu...

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    Mar 07, 2018 10:47 PM GMT
    24hourguy said
    berimbolo saidLOL. I thought you were talking about ACTUAL sissy squats, which hurt like hell.

    I have to try this! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VUiFlZ2FsKA


    It's not recommended by physical therapists:

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    Mar 08, 2018 9:47 PM GMT
    MuchoMasQueMusculo said
    24hourguy said
    berimbolo saidLOL. I thought you were talking about ACTUAL sissy squats, which hurt like hell.

    I have to try this! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VUiFlZ2FsKA


    It's not recommended by physical therapists:


    never done this, or even seen another do them either.
    must be an American thing.
  • training_guy

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    Mar 09, 2018 9:00 PM GMT
    Because sissy squats are an excellent exercise for quad focus & development.
    Also variety is key, box squats, pause squats, parallel squats etc etc will all help, you don't have to go wide with ass to grass every time.
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    Mar 09, 2018 9:58 PM GMT
    training_guy saidBecause sissy squats are an excellent exercise for quad focus & development.
    Also variety is key, box squats, pause squats, parallel squats etc etc will all help, you don't have to go wide with ass to grass every time.


    Nice try but these men do not show any variation in -their squat movements. They do not do full range ever BECAUSE THEY CAN'T HANDLE THE WEIGHT. which in turn makes the move risky and dangerous.

    Even if you do partial range- not advisable for full Muscular development- full range will be the norm. these men do not do full range ever. a partial good morning at 365 when you can't squat 225 is assinine.

    variety as described will not develop strong squats. Every man at my gym who has strong and big legs does full ROM- I am talking about those in 315 and higher league. when they alternate they will do shoulder squats or modify stance.

    These pretenders have chicken legs because they showboat instead of using good and safe form.

    I advertised this post as a rant so I do not apologize for doing so.
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    Mar 10, 2018 6:19 AM GMT
    I'm an ass-to-grass guy myself. Although I alternate between regular stance squats and sumo squats, sumo squats are my favorite because I can almost touch my ass to the floor. There actually IS a squat called the Sissy Squat and it's quite effective. You simply sit on a box or bench, instead of going all the way down. The reason it's so effective is because you have to explode from the box with that weight on your shoulders and it uses muscles you don't use in a regular squat. I rarely do them but when I reach a plateau, they're a good thing to break through the wall with.
  • training_guy

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    Mar 10, 2018 8:28 AM GMT
    If you are a bodybuilder looking to sculpt or develop the quads then sissy squats are brilliant, end of.
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    Mar 10, 2018 2:28 PM GMT
    training_guy saidIf you are a bodybuilder looking to sculpt or develop the quads then sissy squats are brilliant, end of.



    True, but I don't think the OP is talking about actual Sissy Squats. See my post above.
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    Mar 10, 2018 8:26 PM GMT
    This probably isn't the kind of response you are looking for, but ummm, why on earth do you care what anyone else is doing there?

    Unless it's something like not putting the weights back or wanting to stare at a hot ass (whicb is entirely different lol) why pay attention to what others are doing at all period? Go there for you.... Who gives a crap......
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    Mar 10, 2018 9:57 PM GMT
    Radd saidI'm an ass-to-grass guy myself. Although I alternate between regular stance squats and sumo squats, sumo squats are my favorite because I can almost touch my ass to the floor. There actually IS a squat called the Sissy Squat and it's quite effective. You simply sit on a box or bench, instead of going all the way down. The reason it's so effective is because you have to explode from the box with that weight on your shoulders and it uses muscles you don't use in a regular squat. I rarely do them but when I reach a plateau, they're a good thing to break through the wall with.


    I think you're talking about the box squat, not the sissy squat which is actually a pretty weird movement! icon_lol.gif

    I have varus aligned knees and flat feet. These structural problems cause the patellar tendon to suffer more pressure than normal on one side, which explains why I was regularly plagued with knee pain in spite of good squat form. Deep squats increase the injury even more. I resent that not a single personal trainer I had ever noticed those problems that were in plain sight. I always felt guilty that this was due to poor form.

    It turns out the box squat is a squat that people with my mobility issues can do safely. Another alternative is the safety squat bar, which not many gyms have. Combine the two and you have the safest squat when it comes to knee problems. I would even baptize the combo as the "stiff knee squat".

    I don't do the box squat because the SSB alone + my orthotics make it safe enough for me. I just don't get why the SSB isn't more popular... if anything it's safer for beginners.

    safety-squat-bar-4.jpg
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    Mar 10, 2018 11:14 PM GMT
    Kosmo1234 saidThis probably isn't the kind of response you are looking for, but ummm, why on earth do you care what anyone else is doing there?

    Unless it's something like not putting the weights back or wanting to stare at a hot ass (whicb is entirely different lol) why pay attention to what others are doing at all period? Go there for you.... Who gives a crap......

    +1
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    Mar 11, 2018 5:59 AM GMT
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    Radd saidI'm an ass-to-grass guy myself. Although I alternate between regular stance squats and sumo squats, sumo squats are my favorite because I can almost touch my ass to the floor. There actually IS a squat called the Sissy Squat and it's quite effective. You simply sit on a box or bench, instead of going all the way down. The reason it's so effective is because you have to explode from the box with that weight on your shoulders and it uses muscles you don't use in a regular squat. I rarely do them but when I reach a plateau, they're a good thing to break through the wall with.


    I think you're talking about the box squat, not the sissy squat which is actually a pretty weird movement! icon_lol.gif

    I have varus aligned knees and flat feet. These structural problems cause the patellar tendon to suffer more pressure than normal on one side, which explains why I was regularly plagued with knee pain in spite of good squat form. Deep squats increase the injury even more. I resent that not a single personal trainer I had ever noticed those problems that were in plain sight. I always felt guilty that this was due to poor form.

    It turns out the box squat is a squat that people with my mobility issues can do safely. Another alternative is the safety squat bar, which not many gyms have. Combine the two and you have the safest squat when it comes to knee problems. I would even baptize the combo as the "stiff knee squat".

    I don't do the box squat because the SSB alone + my orthotics make it safe enough for me. I just don't get why the SSB isn't more popular... if anything it's safer for beginners.

    safety-squat-bar-4.jpg



    Well damn, you're totally right. All this time my friends and I have been calling the Box Squat a Sissy Squat. Maybe it's a regional thing? Don't know.
  • barefootlover

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    Mar 11, 2018 11:17 PM GMT
    I just started doing squats in a Les Mills Body Pump class to a music track. I follow exactly the form and movement of the instructor and it hurts like hell, but I'm getting stronger quads. It really burns when you have correct form. I really like the class because every muscle in your body gets a work out.
  • JackNNJ

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    Mar 12, 2018 4:17 PM GMT
    cuz day fagits
  • Dom5

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    Mar 13, 2018 10:26 AM GMT
    tonyatl saidWTF do men pile on weights on the barbell to ostensibly squat, yet they only go down 1/4 or 1/2 the way (thighs should be parallel to ground - lower being better). Weight lifting studies have demonstrated clearly that full range of motion is the only way to fully exercise the muscle and to build size.

    There is one punkass who comes to my gym in his tights, loads 365 or so, bends forward as though he is doing a good morning, and then bends at the knees for 6 inches or so for his descent. not only is it ridiculous and dangerous, but it accomplishes nothing at all. he thinks he is hot shit.

    it is far better to squat with an empty bar with good form than to showboat with lots of plates with crappy form.


    Don't namecall. Lol. There's likely a very large part of his sense of self that is in his (ostensibly incorrectly executed) workouts. He likely also either knows everything you said, or is doing something specific. ATEOTD just focus on your form. That takes so much effort you really can't look at much else. Everybody is trying to get to their best self.