New Survey Shows Young People Are Staying Liberal and Conservatives Are Dying Off

  • metta

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    Mar 09, 2018 5:39 AM GMT
    New Survey Shows Young People Are Staying Liberal and Conservatives Are Dying Off



    http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2018/03/new-survey-young-staying-liberal-conservatives-dying-off.html
  • roadbikeRob

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    Mar 09, 2018 2:37 PM GMT
    metta saidNew Survey Shows Young People Are Staying Liberal and Conservatives Are Dying Off



    http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2018/03/new-survey-young-staying-liberal-conservatives-dying-off.html
    Just another idiotic survey from an ultra leftist publication from an ultra leftist overtaxed city that only samples a tiny number of people and than assumes that the majority are the exact same way. This is all baseless bullshit! There are a growing number of young conservatives and independents in the US. Conservatism will never completely die off. Keep living in an ultra leftist fantasyland New York Magazine!

    Now religious conservatism is steadily dying off and that is 100 years overdue. Once the fairy tale religious beliefs are purged from conservatism, than there will be a rapid resurgence of the original conservative ideology among young Americans.
  • StevenKal

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    Mar 09, 2018 3:50 PM GMT
    I refuse to be a liberal (too cold) or conservative (too hot). Moderate is just right! icon_lol.gificon_lol.gificon_lol.gif
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    Mar 09, 2018 4:12 PM GMT
    metta saidNew Survey Shows Young People Are Staying Liberal and Conservatives Are Dying Off

    http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2018/03/new-survey-young-staying-liberal-conservatives-dying-off.html


    Nah, liberal goofiness will always guarantee a steady supply of conservatives.

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    Mar 09, 2018 5:18 PM GMT
    Young liberals evolving into conservatives as they age has been a known thing since the late 1800's.
  • broderick13

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    Mar 09, 2018 5:52 PM GMT
    It's sad that many people seem to consider "liberal" a pejorative. It is simply an attitude which makes one open to change and willing to set aside "traditional" ideas or practices. Yes, this carries risk and can sometimes lead to overreach which would be prevented by a "conservative" approach (where change is to be avoided, by definition), but how else can significant progress, social or otherwise, be made? And why are these terms seemingly treated as identities, like gender or ethnicity? One would think that adopting a "liberal" or "conservative" approach to solving a problem would depend on the nature of the problem and the risk involved (low risk and high potential benefit to change--> liberal approach, high risk and low potential benefit to change--> conservative approach). Perhaps if people thought critically about problems and about how to actually solve them, instead of focusing on whether our own "liberal" or "conservative" in-group is winning the battle for popularity, we might focus our energies better towards solutions to our common problems.

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    Mar 10, 2018 1:37 AM GMT
    broderick13 saidIt's sad that many people seem to consider "liberal" a pejorative. It is simply an attitude which makes one open to change and willing to set aside "traditional" ideas or practices. Yes, this carries risk and can sometimes lead to overreach which would be prevented by a "conservative" approach (where change is to be avoided, by definition), but how else can significant progress, social or otherwise, be made? And why are these terms seemingly treated as identities, like gender or ethnicity? One would think that adopting a "liberal" or "conservative" approach to solving a problem would depend on the nature of the problem and the risk involved (low risk and high potential benefit to change--> liberal approach, high risk and low potential benefit to change--> conservative approach). Perhaps if people thought critically about problems and about how to actually solve them, instead of focusing on whether our own "liberal" or "conservative" in-group is winning the battle for popularity, we might focus our energies better towards solutions to our common problems.


    Here, here!!! Well said!!! +1
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    Mar 10, 2018 4:46 AM GMT
    Context is everything. The OP was referring to political attitudes, and in that context liberalism versus conservatism generally refers to determining to what extent government intervention is appropriate for desired social outcomes. It really has nothing to do with which group has a new/radical approach to problem solving.

    In this context liberals typically believe that governments are best placed to alleviate many social ills, such as poverty and lack of healthcare, whereas conservatives tend to believe that the individual is better suited for resolving social ills.

    Not surprisingly there is not much universal agreement on where the cutoff line should be drawn. As a result we find liberals in conservative political movements and vice versa.

    Conor Lamb, the Pennsylvania Democrat currently running for Congress is an excellent example. Anyone would think he's a Republican based on some of his positions but that makes sense. Who better to run as a Democrat in a heavily Republican district than a "Reagan Democrat"? I'm sure we'll see the flip side in California in due course.
  • outdoorsmuscl...

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    Mar 10, 2018 4:17 PM GMT
    I have always been liberally minded and will continue to be liberal until the day I die. Liberals and conservatives are wired differently.

    "What’s really fascinating is that there have been a number of recent studies looking at brain structural differences between liberals and conservatives," said Saltz. "And what’s been found in several studies is that liberals tend to have a larger anterior cingulate gyrus. That is an area that is responsible for taking in new information and that impact of the new information on decision making or choices. Conservatives tended on the whole to have a larger right amygdala. Amygdala being a deeper brain structure that processes more emotional information—specifically fear-based information," Saltz explained.

    "So in terms of interpreting the meaning of different sized structures for a liberal versus a conservative, I think you have to look at what that area is predominantly responsible for. So, for instance, for conservatives if your right amygdala is enlarged, and that’s the fear-processing area, you would expect maybe choices or decisions or character and personality to be more informed by a response to a fearful situation," Saltz said.

    "Conservatives, in fact, in personality studies do tend to rate higher in areas of stability, loyalty, not liking change," and incorporating religion when it comes to making certain choices, Saltz said. "And if you look at liberals from a personality character standpoint, you’re going to find stronger ratings in terms of liking change, wanting to actually base decision-making on new information, on science information. And so those differences are not surprising in light of these brain structural differences.

    https://www.salon.com/2016/06/06/study_liberals_and_conservatives_have_different_brain_structures_partner/


    [quote][cite]broderick13 said[/cite]It's sad that many people seem to consider "liberal" a pejorative. It is simply an attitude which makes one open to change and willing to set aside "traditional" ideas or practices. Yes, this carries risk and can sometimes lead to overreach which would be prevented by a "conservative" approach (where change is to be avoided, by definition), but how else can significant progress, social or otherwise, be made? And why are these terms seemingly treated as identities, like gender or ethnicity? One would think that adopting a "liberal" or "conservative" approach to solving a problem would depend on the nature of the problem and the risk involved (low risk and high potential benefit to change--> liberal approach, high risk and low potential benefit to change--> conservative approach). Perhaps if people thought critically about problems and about how to actually solve them, instead of focusing on whether our own "liberal" or "conservative" in-group is winning the battle for popularity, we might focus our energies better towards solutions to our common problems.

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    Mar 11, 2018 11:22 AM GMT
    Then the boys move away from the brainwashing factories ,of the liberalised education system, and become men and also change.