Barack Obama's address to congress

  • GQjock

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    Feb 25, 2009 10:36 AM GMT
    Obama spoke to both houses of congress last night
    How many of you guys saw it and what did you think?


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  • HndsmKansan

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    Feb 25, 2009 1:53 PM GMT
    Well I think there were several things to consider:

    1) The substance of the speech

    2) The contrast of Obama to Bush, the contrast of others in the room
    as well.

    On the substance, I thought it was a good speech, not incredible, but very reasonable. I listened, mostly agreed. Not too long.. about right and probably a good idea he made the speech.

    Contrasts: Not to bash Bush on this one, I just thought the delivery and reactions (again mostly democratic) were interesting. In terms of style, you'd probably notice anytime a new Chief executive takes office (over the
    former occupant). It was refreshing.
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    Feb 25, 2009 2:52 PM GMT
    I like many Americans approved of the speach. It was needed. I will say this for Obama, he seems very good at motivating people.

    We as Americans do need to work together, and not just for ourselves at this point and time. United We Stand.

    The republican response was very lame.icon_evil.gif
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    Feb 25, 2009 4:54 PM GMT
    Obama is a great speaker. Very inspirational and uplifting. I agree it was refreshing after hearing Years of Bush. I'm not a Bush hater, but it did get a little old after awhile...and I'm from Texas. Obama was reaching a bit and on the border of practicality...in my opinion. The country really needed a guy like him to inspire us to move forward to a better way of dealing with things though. Whether it was all fluffy political bull or real lasting promises, I hope that he will live up to at least half of what he is putting out there. If anything I hope that his inspiration and motivation for "change" is enough to fuel the American people to do so for the better...after all we are the Country and it can not change without us.
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    Feb 25, 2009 4:56 PM GMT
    Well one thing that I definitely agree with Obama is that the people of this nation are too self-involved and too greedy sometimes, and that if they want this oh so great nation to really be the best on earth then they need to start taking responsibilities. There's too much help out there for the people who don't need it, and too little help out there for people. I really hope this is something the nation addresses. Everyone loves to complain but no one is willing to do what it takes to make the nation better.
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    Feb 25, 2009 4:57 PM GMT
    I like that he will use this opportunity to cut useless programs....like giving subsidies to agribusiness that doesnt need it....and many others.

    This crisis gives the American gov't the chance to jettison programs that make no sense anymore....and the congressman of whichever district isnt going to get much support in Congress to keep it.
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    Feb 25, 2009 5:02 PM GMT
    Caslon9000 said, "I like that he will use this opportunity to cut useless programs....like giving subsidies to agribusiness that doesnt need it....and many others. "

    I was cheering about that one too. Good-bye subsidies (mostly, hopefully). I think this will help bring food prices down and make agribusiness more competitive for the small farms.


    ...on further thought about small farms: that will help strengthen organic farming, which is something of note about the Deputy Secretary of Agriculture...icon_smile.gif
  • coolarmydude

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    Feb 25, 2009 5:17 PM GMT
    I thought that the biggest message from Obama was, "Here's my agenda. Congress, you work it out!"

    It also sounded like he gave Congress a one year deadline to come up with a healthcare plan.

    He also put the agenda priority on Education, Healthcare and Energy, which I think are the three most crucial areas that need improvements.

    I think the best line was, "Dropping out is not an option." I expect to see that on posters plastered all over school walls come next week. I also loved the story about the 8th grader writing to the President about her school's problems and wrote that, "We are not quitters." That was very inspiring.

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    Feb 25, 2009 5:18 PM GMT
    That was great. I was actually in the DFAC eating breakfast for that one (here in iraq) and yelled KBR. Those guys make way too much money for doing military jobs. A lot of useles civilian contractors making 100 grand a year...passing out towels at the gym, guarding sites inside a base, and countless other jobs. Not to mention they take away from what other service members should be doing,which is their real jobs.
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    Feb 25, 2009 5:22 PM GMT
    Obama's speech was very uplifting and empowering. As with any new canidencry, I'm just waiting to see if he'll be able to walk the walk. The Democratic reaction reminded me of a very traditional Latino Catholic church service...sit down, stand up, sit down, stand up, sit down. During Obama's speech, there were times I felt that they (the Demos) needed to let Obama speak for more than just 2 minutes at a time.
  • allatonce

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    Feb 25, 2009 5:25 PM GMT
    I really enjoyed his speech as well. As a Canadian our welfare is directly impacted by the welfare of the United States. Obama seems to have some real goals in place and focus in the exact right areas. He understands that the stimulus package is a artificial short-term solution that does not resolve the real problems over the long term. Fixing health care (you guys should really consider universal health care like Canada has), education (I would never have gone on to university if my schooling cost as much as it did in America), and renewable energy (in my opinion the biggest area for potential growth that America currently has), and research and development are exactly what America needs. What a contrast to your last President.
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    Feb 25, 2009 5:27 PM GMT
    HighVoltageGuy said, "Obama's speech was very uplifting and empowering. As with any new canidencry, I'm just waiting to see if he'll be able to walk the walk. The Democratic reaction reminded me of a very traditional Latino Catholic church service...sit down, stand up, sit down, stand up, sit down. During Obama's speech, there were times I felt that they (the Demos) needed to let Obama speak for more than just 2 minutes at a time."


    HAHAHA! I caught Nancy Pelosi jumping out of her chair before Obama finished his sentence about the accomplishment of increasing funding for SCHIP. That was funny.
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    Feb 27, 2009 7:52 AM GMT
    It was hard for me to focus on the speech without getting annoyed with the mediawhoring face of Nancy Pelosi.

    Inspite of the unfortunate background visual, I thought Obama's speech was clear, concise and very much coherent. I like how he spoke in simpler, more conversational terms now more than his trademark highfalutin Ivy League rhetoric.
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    Feb 28, 2009 9:25 AM GMT
    I thought it was a rousing speech that said nothing. Pure classic Obama.
    All sound and fury, signifying nothing.
    You think that when those Democratic Senators and Congressmen from farm areas come to him and say, "Hey what do you mean cut subsidies to big agriculture? Those companies are our lifeblood with big campaign donations and such. We can't cut them off." You think they will be cut-off?
    Really?
    When Obama said he signed a bill without earmarks, he failed to say that he was going to sign a huge bill with 9,000 earmarks. Yes, the one he signed and the stimulus bill may not have had earmarks, but the regular spending bill that he is now signing has 9,000 according to the non-partisan group that monitors such things. A bit disingenous? Funny how he did not mention that, Mr. Open Government.

    Obama. The future or the same old politician wrapped in the cloak of annointed one?

    Sorry. I am a pessimist when it comes to politicians. If Obama proves me wrong, I will be happily wrong. I doubt it. He is an Illinois politician, not known for honesty. I am not won over by the fact that he is attractive and black. Nice? Yes. Meaningful? No.
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    Mar 03, 2009 3:36 AM GMT
    coolarmydude saidCaslon9000 said, "I like that he will use this opportunity to cut useless programs....like giving subsidies to agribusiness that doesnt need it....and many others. "

    I was cheering about that one too. Good-bye subsidies (mostly, hopefully). I think this will help bring food prices down and make agribusiness more competitive for the small farms.


    ...on further thought about small farms: that will help strengthen organic farming, which is something of note about the Deputy Secretary of Agriculture...icon_smile.gif


    Right now the cost of milk production is above it's value. What has greater importance, low cost of milk -a major source of nutrition for many families- or free market?
    I agree most subsidies are a total joke, but there is some common sense within the fundamental idea of subsidies.
    A local farmer who gets massive subsidies recently bought a truck dealership and a few local businesses.

    It's not as simple as Obama saying he's going to do away with subsidies (to those making 250,000, wasn't it?). The reason there are such high subsidies in the first place, in my opinion, is because our government representatives are bought. That's how it works. Those with money give support to those representatives who do as they say. The 'vote' counts for nothing if the candidates have been chosen for your consideration, and they are chosen based on how much money they have after bartering away their ethics.