What type of knot do you use to tie a tie?

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    Feb 25, 2009 10:20 PM GMT
    Apparently the way I learned is called "Four in hand" but I'm trying to learn to tie a half windsor (Like RIGHT NOW) .
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    Feb 25, 2009 11:24 PM GMT
    I can't do the half windsor. I don't care, it is not as if I get any additional kudos for having a perfectly done up tie.
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    Feb 26, 2009 12:14 AM GMT
    double windsor is my prefered.

    http://www.ehow.com/how_15994_tie-double-windsor.html

    its on youtube too
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    Feb 26, 2009 12:23 AM GMT
    Double Windsor gets my vote. Although the Windsor it was named after, laked style, look at the bag he wed.
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    Feb 26, 2009 12:30 AM GMT
    It should be based on the collar style: fuller knot for larger-spread collars, and narrower for collars that point more down than out.
  • ep83

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    Feb 26, 2009 12:30 AM GMT
    I hate wearing ties and still struggle to get the knots right.

    Half-Windsor:


    Windsor:
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    Feb 26, 2009 12:56 AM GMT
    1969er saidIt should be based on the collar style: fuller knot for larger-spread collars, and narrower for collars that point more down than out.


    exactly
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    Feb 26, 2009 1:09 AM GMT
    I used to use a double windsor knot. Now I am a multi-millionaire and don't have to work icon_lol.gif
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    Feb 26, 2009 1:57 AM GMT
    I also wear a double Windsor. Stumbled across it by experimenting when I was 8 (had to wear a tie in elementary school). I disliked the knot my father had taught me, so I created my own, and only later learned what it's called.

    I likewise taught myself how to make a bow tie. I could see by looking at them they were nothing but the same knot we use for shoelaces, only with the flat fabric all aligned the same way. Popular myth contends they're really tough, but if you think shoelaces, it's easy.
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    Feb 26, 2009 3:31 AM GMT
    I don't know what a double windsor is.
    Personally I'll do a four-in-hand for most casual.
    Half Windsor for formal.
    Windsor for really formal (tux).
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    Feb 26, 2009 3:33 AM GMT
    i use the Dovorian or Merovingian mostly, though if i have a wide spread collar i like the Hanover or Balthus, and with a narrow collar i like the Cross Knot- also called the Christianson

    here's how to tie them:

    http://www.lordwhimsy.com/trifles/tutorials.html

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    Feb 26, 2009 3:43 AM GMT
    czarodziej saidi use the Dovorian or Merovingian mostly, though if i have a wide spread collar i like the Hanover or Balthus, and with a narrow collar i like the Cross Knot- also called the Christianson

    here's how to tie them:

    http://www.lordwhimsy.com/trifles/tutorials.html



    I mean no disrespect whatsoever, but in my opinion, anything outside of a windsor or four-in-hand knot is sacrilege.
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    Feb 26, 2009 3:47 AM GMT
    full windsor (or double windsor) whichever you want to call it. only problem is you end up with really fat knots with fat ties. looks like that might not be a problem for much longer cause ive noticed ties getting skinnier again...
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    Feb 26, 2009 4:04 AM GMT
    Double Windsor is the way to go. It looks so clean and tight and is very impressive when you have that nice triangle look.

    I can do one in with my eyes closed icon_razz.gif
    Thanks for making learn Mom icon_razz.gif
  • calibro

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    Feb 26, 2009 4:05 AM GMT
    half-windsor all the way
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    Feb 26, 2009 4:37 AM GMT
    well really, the thing to remember is that it depends on the collar type, which in turn should depend on your face shape. a wide spread collar would look ridiculous with a narrow tie knot, and a narrow collar wouldn't properly hold a big fat knot. that much is common sense- that much requires thought. this being said, any more exotic variation is merely to add some understated pinache and style to an ensemble- i get a lot of compliments on some of the more outrageous knots and my fraternity brothers talk about them like they're legend- in a good way :p
  • Delivis

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    Feb 26, 2009 4:38 AM GMT
    I'm allergic to formal wear.
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    Feb 26, 2009 4:39 AM GMT
    half windsor, i like'm thick
  • MikemikeMike

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    Feb 26, 2009 4:41 AM GMT
    USArmyMutt saiddouble windsor is my prefered.

    http://www.ehow.com/how_15994_tie-double-windsor.html

    its on youtube too


    Totally agree-more corporate!!

    Remember to squeeze at the "V" and add the dimple!!! HOT-if you have to wear a tie-do it right.icon_cool.gif

    Half is ok for casual.
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    Feb 26, 2009 4:42 AM GMT
    four in hand or simple for button down and forward point collars.

    half windsor for english and ainsley collars.

    full windsor for londoner and cut-away collars.

    prince albert for downing and cambridge collars.

    I'm intrigued by some of those knots Czarodziej, but sadly I am limited to the above mentioned knots and the bow-tie by my dress code at work.icon_cry.gif
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    Feb 26, 2009 3:22 PM GMT
    czarodziej saidi use the Dovorian or Merovingian mostly, though if i have a wide spread collar i like the Hanover or Balthus, and with a narrow collar i like the Cross Knot- also called the Christianson

    here's how to tie them:

    http://www.lordwhimsy.com/trifles/tutorials.html



    Thanks for this link, I now anoint you RJ's #1 dandy. Ever felt you belonged in the Edwardian age?

    After reading this website I realized I use a half-windsor, it is the full windsor I cannot do. But I work in government so tying a tie properly gets me about as far as a flaming queen at a baptist convention.
  • DiverScience

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    Feb 26, 2009 3:30 PM GMT
    I half windsor on the rare cases I have to wear one. When I graduate I will be learning at least the full, and probably the double.
  • Timbales

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    Feb 26, 2009 3:38 PM GMT
    I like a half windsor. I find I get a more attractive knot with it than a four in hand.
  • dh__

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    May 19, 2009 4:37 PM GMT
    half windsor
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    May 19, 2009 6:01 PM GMT
    it depends on the collar width and the material the tie is made from and its width (and to an extent the length of the tie).

    With a wider collar you use a wider knot (such as a Windsor), as you do when the silk is very fine/the tie is narrower, as something like a half windsor looks too small. There is no one "right knot". On a daily basis a full Windsor tends to look OTT, and I normally use a half Windsor. I donĀ“t like the four in hand as the knot comes out asymmetrical, and normally looks unbalanced. However, even more important is that you do the damn thing correctly: I see SO many horribly tied ties on the metro here.

    Oh and bowties only go with formal wear, not with tweed jackets icon_eek.gif