How many of you believe in black magic????

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    Mar 03, 2009 5:27 AM GMT
    So i drive into the bank parking lot the other day with a large sum of cash to deposit. I stop my car and look next to me and see a woman sitting in the adjaent car doing something...well...wierd. She seemed to have her eyes closed while reciting something and waving her arms in a circular motion. My first instinct was to ask if she needed help but form the look of things, this lady seemed unaware of her surroundings. So i begin to get out and the lady stares at me. For some reason, i got spooked and i drop the money by mistake and it begins flying all over the lot. I got back most of it (found the last 40 dollars stuck under my tires as i was leaving the bank) but the whole thing kinda rubbed me the wrong way. So i tell my mom about it later in the day and she freaks out that the lady was doing black magic and i shouldnt have looked at her and yadda yadda yadda. Hence the question, do you guys belive in black magic/hexes/curses/etc.???

    I'm kinda on the fence.
  • jaded57

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    Mar 03, 2009 5:43 AM GMT
    I actually didnt until I moved to Louisiana. (First NOLA then Shreveport.) And the belief in Voodoo is pretty much everywhere among all social classes. Ive seen a couple things that give me pause to think. But I really think that its mostly just a string of qwinkiedinks. (no idea how to spell coincidental) But still anytime something strange happens you always wonder. I dont believe in ghosts,spirits,or magic,but I have seen things that werent there, and werent easily explained away. Then again maybe I kinda do believe but dont want too. icon_confused.gif

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    Mar 03, 2009 5:50 AM GMT
    For Christ's sake, she was probably just praying fiercely. Have you ever been to a fundamentalist Pentacostal church? Try it sometime, but don't bring your money. No real difference if it was Black Magic though...

    It only works if you believe in it or let it affect you. In the end, you make your own path and nobody's actions, whether on an alternative spiritual level or otherwise, can affect your path unless you let them.
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    Mar 03, 2009 5:53 AM GMT
    I love those chocolates... especially the fruit creams
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    Mar 03, 2009 5:54 AM GMT


    "fruit creams"

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    Mar 03, 2009 5:59 AM GMT
    Why would anyone assume it's magic let alone black magic?

    Some religions use ritualized affirmative prayer as part of their spiritual practice and meditations.

    The same holds true for more "mainstream" religions like Christianity. My sister went to a theology school with some serious holy rollers who would get a little too "full of the spirit" and would go all trancy, and while not really speaking in tongues, would be jibbering to Jesus in a manner most unusual.

    Or the likeliest explanation: She was higher than a kite and talking to her invisible friend Momo the pink dinosaur.
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    Mar 03, 2009 6:16 AM GMT
    I've spent many vacations in New Orleans and have to say I believe. I believe that magic is mostly psychological, you believe you are cursed and you "will be", trace like states can be induced, the power is in the belief. In New Orleans there is the tourist side of voodoo, but also a serious underground. Marie Laveau's (the voodoo queen) grave is covered with the number 3, and the town is riddled with voodoo stories. I think somewhere out there it's real, but rare.
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    Mar 03, 2009 6:17 AM GMT
    Yes, these days you can never tell who's stealing your money--God or the devil.
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    Mar 03, 2009 6:20 AM GMT
    I believe in carlos santana icon_lol.gif

  • kinetic

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    Mar 03, 2009 8:49 AM GMT
    looknrnd saidIt only works if you believe in it or let it affect you. In the end, you make your own path and nobody's actions, whether on an alternative spiritual level or otherwise, can affect your path unless you let them.


    Like that movie The Skeleton Key! Man that was a good flick..
  • MSUBioNerd

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    Mar 03, 2009 12:49 PM GMT
    Well, as an empirical scientist who spent last evening at a lecture by Richard Dawkins, I feel compelled to chime in with the scientific answer: I'll believe in magic when you can show me empirical evidence of it. Preferably from a double blind study with appropriate statistical reasoning. Until then, extraordinary claims require extraordinary proof, so I'll take the position of "extremely unlikely".
  • Sayrnas

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    Mar 03, 2009 3:03 PM GMT
    A) Why Black magic of all things? and B) Did it feel like she was staring at you or through you? I have come across one guy who could stare through me and it scared the bejesus outta me. Didn't look into his eyes till I was confident I was ready to tackle it...which I did.

    I do believe we huemans have abilities (some more than others). Anything from telling if someones lying to dreaming the future. Why not, there are crazier things out there? (Ancient extinct fish off the coast of South America, people jumping off three story buildings only to roll out of it and walk away untouched, or even the size of Condoleezza Rice's head and her gapped teeth...)
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    Mar 03, 2009 3:10 PM GMT
    No lol
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    Mar 03, 2009 3:10 PM GMT
    Because Magic Johnson is black.icon_lol.gif
  • Sayrnas

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    Mar 03, 2009 3:11 PM GMT
    tafkalil saidNo lol


    No? No what? icon_wink.gif
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    Mar 03, 2009 3:14 PM GMT
    No, I don't.

    I love reading fantasy novels involving all kinds of sorcery and stuff, but I don't believe in it for a second.
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    Mar 03, 2009 3:20 PM GMT
    Mother of Christ NO! If that's was the case people would be casting spells all of over the place. Me thinks you have seen one toooo many episodes of "CHARMED" or "ANGEL". I might as well believe in "WHITE MAGIC" and dare I say it Psychics! icon_rolleyes.gificon_rolleyes.gificon_rolleyes.gificon_rolleyes.gif
  • Tiller66

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    Mar 03, 2009 3:58 PM GMT
    Well I do belive in Magic but you have watch for the fakers.I have seen some actually set up near places like banks and atm's and put on little shows to make people do just what you did and then try to find any money that the marks did'nt find.And as far as the whole casting spells people do it everyday it's called praying
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    Mar 03, 2009 4:02 PM GMT
    As a rational educated person I would say no, except that I once dated -- very briefly -- someone who was into occultism. He was hot so I just overlooked it as you overlook so many minor flaws in people you just want to sleep with. He may have taken that as a challenge, because he once made me see something for which I have no explanation.
    Other than that, I don't believe in it.
  • zakariahzol

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    Mar 03, 2009 4:12 PM GMT
    Black magic is a common believe in Asia. From love spell, ghost in a bottle, flying knife looking for prey in the night, possesing other people spirit, vampire on tree ,a spirit of a dead fetus that you can train to steal money for you (his diet is his master blood ), oily men (a curse men who need to rape 99 virgin to be immortal....just a stupid legend)) . You name it we have it all. But as Asian country becoming more modern and educated this kind of believe start to be ignore and just become a theme for entertaiment in movie or just a joking matter. Do I believe in it, not sure..it part of my heritage and culture. But I am an educated men so I believe it with a lot of sceptical and doubt .
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    Mar 03, 2009 4:33 PM GMT
    yes, im a practitioner.

    magic is the manipulation of subtle forces to manifest the will of the magician in the world. its the art, science, and practice of using one's knowledge of the occult workings of the world to manipulate it in ways that seem mysterious to others in order to obtain the desired results. once you understand what it is and how it works, it becomes far less mysterious- ppl just fear what they don't understand, hence superstition and prejudice. most believe (even those who won't admit it openly, but then they're usually the loudest in opposition to it's practice), but few want to acknowledge it or the huge number of practitioners it boasts.

    nysexy, she may have been doing nothing in which case you just freaked yourself out. maybe she was just belting out her favorite song and then was embarrassed when she opened her eyes and caught u staring at her? or she may have been dealing with a demon, and making eye contact with her at a crucial moment sent an unwanted discharge in your direction- i've heard of really bad things happening to people who touch a magician's stash of fetishes and sigils, or walk in on an evocation and find themselves outside the magician's circle, for example, as they're not prepared to handle those energies. however, i doubt she'd have been doing something so dangerous in her car where others could be potentially harmed, even if the spirit was familiar to her. she could just be a bitter, horrible sort of witch and take pleasure in hurting those around her for no reason, hence she may have enjoyed spooking u so deeply.... did u gauge her reaction after you dropped the money? however, those are rare- takes a uniquely bitter person with a disregard for their own welfare, or a complete ignorance of cause/effect laws and of karma. or she could have just been practicing and playing with you to see if she COULD make you drop all your money- practice makes perfect and so much of magic depends on confidence. however, that's unlikely.
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    Mar 03, 2009 6:40 PM GMT
    Ducky45 saidMother of Christ NO! If that's was the case people would be casting spells all of over the place. Me thinks you have seen one toooo many episodes of "CHARMED" or "ANGEL". I might as well believe in "WHITE MAGIC" and dare I say it Psychics! icon_rolleyes.gificon_rolleyes.gificon_rolleyes.gificon_rolleyes.gif


    I believe in all types of magic for i've practice several different variants of it, though in reality all magic is the same. Putting White or Black in front of it really makes no difference. It's the person who makes it good or bad not the magic in general.
    This is like saying that Jesus, Mary, God, and Satan exist!
    Proof for everyone is different whether it be in some hog-wash mainstream religion or non-mainstream, or some form of Magick.

    Your wrong Ducky45, not every is capable enough to perform acts of magick. For it is a sacred art, and those who are careless with it are eventually taken care of by the universal Deity Karma ;) It's something you must believe in with your entire being, just like any blind faith people have in religions in this day and age; for it to be true for you.

    Czarodziej really wrote what I was getting at, probably why I admire him!
    Anyways like most things it's Mind over Matter.
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    Mar 03, 2009 6:40 PM GMT
    I believe people can call upon strengths or abilities not normally witnessed. I also believe this is due to biological reasons. No sort of magic dust or incantations needed.

    Magic is just human experience yet to be explained by science.
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    Mar 04, 2009 4:34 AM GMT
    czarodziej saidyes, im a practitioner.

    magic is the manipulation of subtle forces to manifest the will of the magician in the world. its the art, science, and practice of using one's knowledge of the occult workings of the world to manipulate it in ways that seem mysterious to others in order to obtain the desired results. once you understand what it is and how it works, it becomes far less mysterious- ppl just fear what they don't understand, hence superstition and prejudice. most believe (even those who won't admit it openly, but then they're usually the loudest in opposition to it's practice), but few want to acknowledge it or the huge number of practitioners it boasts.

    nysexy, she may have been doing nothing in which case you just freaked yourself out. maybe she was just belting out her favorite song and then was embarrassed when she opened her eyes and caught u staring at her? or she may have been dealing with a demon, and making eye contact with her at a crucial moment sent an unwanted discharge in your direction- i've heard of really bad things happening to people who touch a magician's stash of fetishes and sigils, or walk in on an evocation and find themselves outside the magician's circle, for example, as they're not prepared to handle those energies. however, i doubt she'd have been doing something so dangerous in her car where others could be potentially harmed, even if the spirit was familiar to her. she could just be a bitter, horrible sort of witch and take pleasure in hurting those around her for no reason, hence she may have enjoyed spooking u so deeply.... did u gauge her reaction after you dropped the money? however, those are rare- takes a uniquely bitter person with a disregard for their own welfare, or a complete ignorance of cause/effect laws and of karma. or she could have just been practicing and playing with you to see if she COULD make you drop all your money- practice makes perfect and so much of magic depends on confidence. however, that's unlikely.



    I didn't gauge her reaction after i dropped the money. I scrambled all over the lot to get it before it flew away and went into the bank. Forgot about the whole ordeal and mentioned it in passing to my mom. I'm not saying that this lady was practicing any sort of magic...to me, she was just doing something that seemd out of the ordinary. When i mentioned it to my mom, she brought out her little theory of ppl doing black magic.

    Do I believe in black magic??? Yes and no...when unexplained things happen, i kinda sorta do (maybe it a cultural thing) for a moment then go "nah"...its 2009. Who has the time. Maybe it does exist..maybe it doesn't. I'm no one to make that decision. Me believing or not believing doesnt change whether such things exist or not. I'm curious to see what others think.