Silencing Christians: Do you agree that Christians should be arrested for speaking against homosexuality in public places?

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    Mar 03, 2009 12:10 PM GMT
    The video below is truly incredible for all the wrong reasons. The tag-line reads as follows:

    "Yes No Undecided. Do you agree that Christians should be arrested for speaking against homosexuality in public places? Yes No Undecided."

    It is amazing to me how these Christians can at once be both the victimized minority and the dominant culture of the U.S. It is impossible to do good by them. In this film they expose the plot of the homosexual agenda. Dun Dun Dun!!!! lol

    You can watch the whole movie at their website below or in the bits and pieces from YouTube:

    Website: http://www.silencingchristians.com/

    YouTube:

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    Part 6



    Part 7

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    Mar 03, 2009 2:59 PM GMT
    Unfortunately they do have the right to speak. It's part of our country and no matter how much we disagree or know it's wrong they have that right.
    But I don't like them calling themselves Christian. Thats where I have the problem. It is too broad of a group to get classified in. I am a Christian and I'm gay. I am Chrisitian cause I was raised that way and have yet to explore any other religion. It's just twisted and sad. I think call them Hate Chrisitians or something else. How about Anti-christian christians?
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    Mar 03, 2009 3:19 PM GMT
    This is America with a right to voice your opinion. Although it is my right, as well, to disagree.
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    Mar 03, 2009 3:20 PM GMT
    Some christians have a martyr complex. I'm completely in favor of helping them out with their fantasy.
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    Mar 03, 2009 3:23 PM GMT
    Absolutely Not. They have a right to their opinions just as we do no matter how wrong it is.
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    Mar 03, 2009 3:57 PM GMT
    FREEDOM OF SPEECH DUMBASS!

    Although I may not agree with other Christians on everything, they still have there rights.
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    Mar 03, 2009 3:58 PM GMT
    Understand, the nature of false belief systems is all about spreading the malarkey, be it truthful, or not.

    As part of you being a member of a particular false belief system, you voluntarily submit to the sanctions that the leader of that false belief system wants to place on others. False belief systems are about indoctrination / brain washing, typically from a very young age, with no basis in truth.

    For many, many, many years, these false belief systems have been the basis of much evil in hatred, intimidation, retaliation, and enforcement of whatever doctrine is in a particular false belief system.

    With false belief systems it's not about truth, but, rather about myth / fable, and about power, wealth, and control....the worst side of humans.

    To answer the question, most speech is protected including hate speech by believers of false belief systems. Like it, or not.
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    Mar 03, 2009 4:02 PM GMT
    Ducky45 saidAbsolutely Not. They have a right to their opinions just as we do no matter how wrong it is.


    I completely agree. What happens if, down the road, the winds of political change shift more in their favor? Are they going to call for our arrests for speaking out against their agenda? This is a slippery slope that undermines freedom of expression for everyone. We simply need to learn how to better compete within the marketplace of ideas.
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    Mar 03, 2009 4:16 PM GMT
    I support freedom of speech. But I dont support tax exempt status for churches so that they can use that money to fund their "free speech" activities. If they want to come out and play in politics, then they should have to pay taxes like the rest of us. We could mount better counter campaigns if we had all our tax money back.

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    Mar 03, 2009 4:28 PM GMT
    christianity is a choice, a lifestyle. It's not one I agree with and I don't believe christians should be allowed to marry or adopt children. If I found one of my employees was a christian, I would fire him or her. If I was a doctor and a christian woman came to me for fertility treatments, I would sew up her putrid vagina.
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    Mar 03, 2009 4:29 PM GMT
    McGay

    FUNNY AS EVER!icon_lol.gificon_lol.gificon_lol.gificon_lol.gif
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    Mar 03, 2009 4:35 PM GMT
    original714 saidThe video below is truly incredible for all the wrong reasons. The tag-line reads as follows:

    "Yes No Undecided. Do you agree that Christians should be arrested for speaking against homosexuality in public places? Yes No Undecided."

    It is amazing to me how these Christians can at once be both the victimized minority and the dominant culture of the U.S. It is impossible to do good by them. In this film they expose the plot of the homosexual agenda. Dun Dun Dun!!!! lol

    You can watch the whole movie at their website below or in the bits and pieces from YouTube:

    Website: http://www.silencingchristians.com/

    YouTube:

    Part 1



    Part 2



    Part 3



    Part 4



    Part 5



    Part 6



    Part 7




    An absolute no. Maybe arrested for slander (ie: Calling guys butt***ers indiscriminately) but not for exercising their first amendment rights.
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    Mar 03, 2009 4:43 PM GMT
    Latenight30 saidUnfortunately they do have the right to speak. It's part of our country and no matter how much we disagree or know it's wrong they have that right.
    But I don't like them calling themselves Christian. Thats where I have the problem. It is too broad of a group to get classified in. I am a Christian and I'm gay. I am Chrisitian cause I was raised that way and have yet to explore any other religion. It's just twisted and sad. I think call them Hate Chrisitians or something else. How about Anti-christian christians?
    Nicely put Latenight! The problem I have with programs like this is that what they are complaining about (IE: an agenda of the homosexuals) is exactly what they are doing. Their agenda is to get everyone to think that ALL Christians are like them, which couldn't be further from the truth. They do have a right to voice their opinion but they're also the first to condemn the gays from expressing their right (IE: marriage, equal rights, acceptance into society).
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    Mar 03, 2009 4:45 PM GMT
    I don't think we should silence anyone but I do believe we should be more responsible regarding the forums we give them from which to speak from. Don't put them on TV unless you agree with their oppresive views. Don't give them space in the newspapers or meeting halls unless you want to promote their views.

    We would do the same for bigotry against race or gender. Why not do the same for gay people?
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    Mar 03, 2009 5:06 PM GMT
    Shut them the fu*k up!
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    Mar 03, 2009 5:08 PM GMT
    As much as I do not like them they have a right to speak. If they were stopped then what would be next? Us? Would we want that?
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    Mar 03, 2009 5:16 PM GMT
    McGay saidchristianity is a choice, a lifestyle. It's not one I agree with and I don't believe christians should be allowed to marry or adopt children. If I found one of my employees was a christian, I would fire him or her. If I was a doctor and a christian woman came to me for fertility treatments, I would sew up her putrid vagina.


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    Mar 03, 2009 5:20 PM GMT
    Caslon9000 saidI support freedom of speech. But I dont support tax exempt status for churches so that they can use that money to fund their "free speech" activities. If they want to come out and play in politics, then they should have to pay taxes like the rest of us. We could mount better counter campaigns if we had all our tax money back.



    Religious groups often voice their political opinions via PACs, such as the FRC PAC, which is perfectly legal. Here's what the IRS web site has to say:

    ...501(c)(3) of the Internal Revenue Code. In its present form, the law states that charities, including churches, are not allowed to “participate in, or intervene in (including the publishing or distributing of statements) any political campaign on behalf of (or in opposition to) any candidate for public office.”

    http://www.irs.gov/irs/article/0,,id=154788,00.html

    This prohibition does not apply to ballot initiatives or other lobbying efforts.
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    Mar 03, 2009 5:20 PM GMT
    well, they should have freedom of speech, but just not the right to force others to hear it. hate speech has precedents in how it's dealt with- look at the neo nazi movement or the KKK. they still exist unabated, but for them to organize a parade is about as difficult and rare as a man giving birth.
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    Mar 03, 2009 5:54 PM GMT
    czarodziej saidwell, they should have freedom of speech, but just not the right to force others to hear it. hate speech has precedents in how it's dealt with- look at the neo nazi movement or the KKK. they still exist unabated, but for them to organize a parade is about as difficult and rare as a man giving birth.
    So perhaps the question, with equality in mind, is that should it be any harder for the Christian Right or KKK to organize a parade than gays for the pride parade? It's such a fine line between expressing your beliefs and/or opinions (first amendment) and projecting hatred. One man's trash is another man's treasures.
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    Mar 03, 2009 6:12 PM GMT
    No, they should not be silenced. But at every hate-spouting public engagement they stage, we should bring a wagonload of straw men for them to shred. Poor, poor (tiny minority of bigoted) Christians.
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    Mar 03, 2009 6:27 PM GMT
    they should not be silenced
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    Mar 03, 2009 6:34 PM GMT
    Allowing morons to speak helps keep the ranks of morons from growing.

    Imagine what could have happened if Sarah Palin hadn't been allowed to speak to the media and 90% of Americans thought she was an inspiration for women the world over.
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    Mar 03, 2009 6:36 PM GMT
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    czarodziej saidwell, they should have freedom of speech, but just not the right to force others to hear it. hate speech has precedents in how it's dealt with- look at the neo nazi movement or the KKK. they still exist unabated, but for them to organize a parade is about as difficult and rare as a man giving birth.
    So perhaps the question, with equality in mind, is that should it be any harder for the Christian Right or KKK to organize a parade than gays for the pride parade? It's such a fine line between expressing your beliefs and/or opinions (first amendment) and projecting hatred. One man's trash is another man's treasures.


    the difference is that gay parades aren't hateful, nor do they spout anti-straight propaganda and insist that straights be denied constitutional rights or imply that they're less human than the rest. i don't have a problem with minority groups gathering and talking publicly, obviously, except where its used to intentionally spread hatred, and impinges on the rights of others.
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    Mar 03, 2009 6:36 PM GMT
    Trance24 saidAllowing morons to speak helps keep the ranks of morons from growing.

    Imagine what could have happened if Sarah Palin hadn't been allowed to speak to the media and 90% of Americans thought she was an inspiration for women the world over.


    excellent point....