Finally, heads will roll!! ...Canada teetering on the verge of collapse....Government about to fall only months since election....Confederacy hangs by a thread

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    Mar 04, 2009 9:46 PM GMT
    ...actually they are discussing the budget.....but for Canada, that's as exciting as the government gets....so ya gotta work it....to paraphrase Rumsfeld: you hype the gov't you have, not the govt you wish you had.

    "Harper has said that the [stimulus] fund is a confidence matter for his minority government and has raised the possibility of an election if the opposition doesn't approve the stimulus plan. "

    http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNews/story/CTVNews/20090304/stimulus_fund_090304/20090304?hub=TopStories
  • UncleverName

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    Mar 04, 2009 10:57 PM GMT
    Caslon9000 saidFinally, heads will roll!! ...Canada teetering on the verge of collapse....Government about to fall only months since election....Confederacy hangs by a thread


    For what, the third time already since the last election?
    I'm Canadian and this isn't enough to get me excited even. I mean, even if they do have another election, another minority government is going to get elected. And it will be the same constant chatter about another election shortly after.

    C'est la vie. C'est la vie.
  • UncleverName

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    Mar 05, 2009 12:19 AM GMT
    Maybe you're right; maybe I've misunderestimated the benefits of Canada joining the US for the last 9 years...
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    Mar 05, 2009 12:38 AM GMT
    jprichva saidOh, disband your goverment already and vote to join the United States.

    Do you realize what the addition of Canada would do to the political culture here? All those new provinces--er, states--that would wind up in the Democratic column. We'd adopt your healthcare system for all states, we'd finally abolish the death penalty, and the South would become more marginalized than ever.

    Plus we'd stop fighting over lumber quotas and beef exports.


    Americans couldn't handle the sudden boost in common sense that we would bring. Not to mention all that lovely oil. icon_wink.gif

    We will give you Newfoundland if you give us Massachusetts. You get screech, we get Provincetown and the Red Sox.
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    Mar 05, 2009 12:41 AM GMT
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    jprichva saidOh, disband your goverment already and vote to join the United States.

    Do you realize what the addition of Canada would do to the political culture here? All those new provinces--er, states--that would wind up in the Democratic column. We'd adopt your healthcare system for all states, we'd finally abolish the death penalty, and the South would become more marginalized than ever.

    Plus we'd stop fighting over lumber quotas and beef exports.


    Americans couldn't handle the sudden boost in common sense that we would bring. Not to mention all that lovely oil. icon_wink.gif

    We will give you Newfoundland if you give us Massachusetts. You get screech, we get Provincetown and the Red Sox.



    HAHAHAAHA.... why would we ever merge with Upper Mexico? Especially when there's a fire sale on real estate in all the hot spots right now.
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    Mar 05, 2009 12:42 AM GMT
    Is union between Canada and America even remotely on the cards?

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    Mar 05, 2009 12:45 AM GMT
    No...No...No....

    Russian scholar says US will collapse — next year



    This guy is a total nut.


    Quote:
    the U.S. will split into six rump-states before 2011, and Russia and China will become the backbones of a new world order.

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    Quote:
    Panarin argued that Americans are in moral decline, saying their great psychological stress is evident from school shootings, the size of the prison population and the number of gay men.

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    Quote:
    Panarin insisted he didn't wish for a U.S. collapse, but he predicted Russia and China would emerge from the economic turmoil stronger and said the two nations should work together, even to create a new currency to replace the U.S. dollar.
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    But Alexei may be correct:

    Quote:

    But Alexei Malashenko, a scholar-in-residence at the Carnegie Moscow Center who did not attend the lecture, sided with the skeptical instructor, saying Russia is the country that is on the verge of disintegration.


    "I can't imagine at all how the United States could ever fall apart," Malashenko told the AP.



    Story Here
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    Mar 05, 2009 12:50 AM GMT
    Remember this idea:

    sofcanada.jpg

    ...altho prolly more of the east coast and mid-west would join the new union....leaving only the deep south and prairie states to Jesus.
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    Mar 05, 2009 12:54 AM GMT
    Caslon9000 saidRemember this idea:

    sofcanada.jpg

    ...altho prolly more of the east coast and mid-west would join the new union....leaving only the deep south and prairie states to Jesus.



    me likey, take the wamth of the pacific and the financial centre of the NE cover em in Maple Syrup and you have the USoC
  • metta

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    Mar 05, 2009 12:59 AM GMT
    Caslon9000 saidRemember this idea:

    sofcanada.jpg

    ...altho prolly more of the east coast and mid-west would join the new union....leaving only the deep south and prairie states to Jesus.


    I guess being that I live in California, I would be living in the penis part of the US of Canada. Hey, if that is the only way we will get a national health care plan, gay marriage and equal civil rights, i say lets go for it.

    I was just reading about a story of alligators that go into inhabited areas and they get moved to another area and put magnets on their head so that they will lose their sense of direction and not come back. I would like the same thing done to the nuts that still support Bush in the US of Canada and move them to Jesusland....just need to buy stock in magnets. icon_biggrin.gif
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    Mar 05, 2009 1:00 AM GMT
    ha ha ha ... although I think the United States of Canada should rule Alaska as a dominion.

    It just looks so isolated up there....
  • imperator

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    Mar 05, 2009 1:21 AM GMT
    jprichva saidOh, disband your goverment already and vote to join the United States.[...]


    Over my cold, dead body. You say the influx of Canucks would benefit U.S. society; I say the influx of Bible belt rednecks would seriously damage our culture. Granted, we're more alike than different, but the differences-- the way Canadian politics eschews an excess of religion, the more liberal/communitarian acceptance of social government spending, the effort to 'be polite' in order to differentiate 'us' from the stereotype of our southern neighbours, the humility where we try to know a bit about the rest of the world because we know we aren't the 'center of it'-- they matter, and if we were assimilated into the States I'm not sure they would hold up against the cultural deluge.

    I think it's more likely our health care would be further privatized because U.S. providers would sue the government for "unfair competitive practices" or somesuch obsessive-compulsive "free market capitalist" ethos, and our 'liberal conservatism' would be overwhelmed by conservative conservatism while all things "liberal" got slandered as they seem to in the U.S. (y'all seem to treat the "L-word" as almost as dirty as "communism").

    It isn't that Americans are actually necessarily "bad," but as long as we have the luxury of not being Americans, we better ourselves by trying to be better than the stereotypes we have about you, however naive or unfair those stereotypes may be icon_biggrin.gif
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    Mar 05, 2009 1:24 AM GMT
    Lost_And_Found saidIs union between Canada and America even remotely on the cards?



    I think this is underway as we speak.

    NAFTA was first step - form economic union

    Security and Prosperity Partnership of North America (SPP) followed (2005) - which seeks to "harmonize" all regulations and essentially merge the bureaucratic standards and operations.

    Then it's the move towards a North American Community (just like the European Community before it became a union)

    Eventually. North American Union.


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    Mar 05, 2009 1:35 AM GMT
    Lost_And_Found saidIs union between Canada and America even remotely on the cards?



    oh no!!!! lol icon_wink.gif
    anyone know if any of this is legit?
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    Mar 05, 2009 1:46 AM GMT
    Yes. I am completely convinced that this is the direction we are headed.

    But i get called a conspiracy theorist because i hold this belief.

    I guess that's what happens when you base your opinions on studying history, reading declassified government documents, intelligence projections for the future, study political-economic trends, and read reports produced by the think tanks that drive ideology and determine policy.

    I would be willing to post a lot of the information if people are interested, with links and all. But it might be a bit of a long post, and i know how people hate that.
  • UncleverName

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    Mar 05, 2009 4:06 AM GMT
    From the little I've read, there just isn't a need for the two countries to merge.
    Generally, in any real dispute that matters, Canada bends over to the US.

    The softwood lumber crisis is a good example. Many people in Canada fought and complained about this, and eventually got some kind of reparation, but not until years later, after the damage to the Canadian softwood lumber industry had already been made. Companies were shut down and tons of people were laid off. The monetary reparations that came (5 - 7 years later) definitely didn't help those companies or people.

    As discussed way too much in another thread started by Caslon, the US basically provides Canada with whatever military we need as well. If the US has tactical domination over Canada, then the economics falls into place.

    What benefits would there be from a merger? It would just mean more citizens that the US government would have to pretend to care about. As it is now, they can leave the pretending to the Canadian government.
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    Mar 05, 2009 4:24 AM GMT
    Meh it's only a matter of time until countries are a thing of the past and the NWO takes over..
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    Mar 05, 2009 4:36 AM GMT
    UncleverName saidWhat benefits would there be from a merger? It would just mean more citizens that the US government would have to pretend to care about. As it is now, they can leave the pretending to the Canadian government.

    Read and ye shall understand....

    empiresoftrust.jpg

    ....I would tell you the benefits, but I think UncleverName is gonna read the book and I dont want to spoil it for him. But if you want to understand the process at work, read the book. The Roman Empire aint what Hollywood has made it out to be.

    And to understand all that is going on and why governments put up with it, again, read...

    golitah.jpg

    and follow them with...

    post_american_world.jpg
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    Mar 06, 2009 12:55 AM GMT
    It's sometimes crossed my mind that the 'English speaking world' could form a union....

    I think the nation state has had its day.
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    Mar 06, 2009 1:05 AM GMT
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    Lost_And_Found saidIs union between Canada and America even remotely on the cards?



    I think this is underway as we speak.

    NAFTA was first step - form economic union

    Security and Prosperity Partnership of North America (SPP) followed (2005) - which seeks to "harmonize" all regulations and essentially merge the bureaucratic standards and operations.

    Then it's the move towards a North American Community (just like the European Community before it became a union)

    Eventually. North American Union.




    Right. So if it's going to be like the EU why only have Canada and the U.S. in it? What other countries should be in? Caribbean states? Cuba? Mexico? Central American states? Greenland? And what rights should it include? Work/live anywhere in the NAU? And what would be the results? Mass migration? Economically? Where would the capital be?
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    Mar 06, 2009 1:14 AM GMT
    It is currently to include Canada, the US and Mexico. Eventually, it is intended to be a pan-American Union.

    With the NAU, the documents I have read tend to state the intention to make Atlanta the capital.

    Hmm, perhaps i should do a posting or start up a forum with a lot of information and sources on this.
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    Mar 06, 2009 7:57 PM GMT
    MeOhMy saidIt is currently to include Canada, the US and Mexico. Eventually, it is intended to be a pan-American Union.

    With the NAU, the documents I have read tend to state the intention to make Atlanta the capital.

    Hmm, perhaps i should do a posting or start up a forum with a lot of information and sources on this.


    We should make a NWO related thread. Talk about the Bilderberg group and all that good stuff icon_biggrin.gif
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    Mar 06, 2009 8:14 PM GMT
    that's probably a good idea... it would be a long thread though, haha
    so much to say


    or we could just post a pic of Beatrix and let people SEE how scary these people are, lol
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    Mar 06, 2009 8:22 PM GMT
    Although I'm thinking political union would be more popular amongst the English speaking Canadian than the French speaking Canadians???

    Here's a gratuitous pic of Montreal, just coz it's sexy..

    1294132-Vieux_Montreal-Montreal.jpg
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    Lost_And_Found saidAlthough I'm thinking political union would be more popular amongst the English speaking Canadian than the French speaking Canadians???

    Here's a gratuitous pic of Montreal, just coz it's sexy..

    1294132-Vieux_Montreal-Montreal.jpg


    I would hope, and think, that political union among english speaking canadians with the US would be a highly unpopular idea.

    and it is, in fact, a horrific idea.