Why are so many young homosexuals, in the gay community, so disrespected?

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    Mar 04, 2009 10:41 PM GMT
    Because they don't appreciate all the hard work that has been done for them, and the freedoms they were born with, that us older generations fought for.........
  • roadbikeRob

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    Mar 04, 2009 10:49 PM GMT
    Because many of these young gay men in their late teens and early twenties have life too damn easy while the rest of us have to work hard for everything we want. In addition they are anti-social because they are too obscessed with those goddamned, stupid I pods and their cell phones.
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    Mar 04, 2009 10:59 PM GMT
    Because all these older, bitter and jaded homo's that fought for these rights can't bear to see us enjoying ourselves without (that much) fear of bigotry.
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    Mar 04, 2009 11:08 PM GMT
    Disrespected by whom? From what I see, young gays are fawned upon and idolized.
  • roadbikeRob

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    Mar 04, 2009 11:11 PM GMT
    Because many of you young gay guys of today don't have a clue what it is like to have to work hard and earn the both the necessities and luxuries of modern life. As for your "gay rights" yeah keep that in mind that us older guys fought hard and worked hard to win these rights for all of the gay community. You young ones just don't understand and you obviously don't appreciate what has been done for you. You are too damn busy with your stupid, idiotic I pods and cell phones to give a damn about the world around you.
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    Mar 04, 2009 11:14 PM GMT
    Can we have some examples Pattison to help clarify? And am I in the "young" or "old" category so I can take sides on this soon-to-be flame war?
  • roadbikeRob

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    Mar 04, 2009 11:19 PM GMT
    In my opinion, the older group of gay men begins at age 26 and goes up until the golden years. Guys 25 and under are the younger segment of gay men. That is just my opinion so make your own observation and take it from there.
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    Mar 04, 2009 11:23 PM GMT
    roadbikeRob saidBecause many of you young gay guys of today don't have a clue what it is like to have to work hard and earn the both the necessities and luxuries of modern life. As for your "gay rights" yeah keep that in mind that us older guys fought hard and worked hard to win these rights for all of the gay community. You young ones just don't understand and you obviously don't appreciate what has been done for you. You are too damn busy with your stupid, idiotic I pods and cell phones to give a damn about the world around you.


    What do Ipods an Cellphones have to do with this?

    May I remind you that your dad sure said the same to you? I agree that times for the younger generations have been easier and the next generation will have it even better. Thats life.

    Also, dont give the young ones the fault if you have forgotten on how to enjoy yourself. I work 50 hours a week and have 2 kids at home, I still got the time to go out or relax. Its all about how you handle your life.
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    Mar 04, 2009 11:26 PM GMT
    This is a terrible THREAD! Pure rubbish! There are disrespectful gays young and older!
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    Mar 04, 2009 11:29 PM GMT
    roadbikeRob saidBecause many of you young gay guys of today don't have a clue what it is like to have to work hard and earn the both the necessities and luxuries of modern life. As for your "gay rights" yeah keep that in mind that us older guys fought hard and worked hard to win these rights for all of the gay community. You young ones just don't understand and you obviously don't appreciate what has been done for you. You are too damn busy with your stupid, idiotic I pods and cell phones to give a damn about the world around you.

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    Actually I don't think this is it. I think it's because we won't sleep with you guys even though you feel entitled to it due to your 'fight' for rights.
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    Mar 04, 2009 11:30 PM GMT
    Roadbikerob:

    Oh snap! It's almost like we're living in a world where we're normally socialized human beings -- a world you fought to create. How offensive! /sarcasm

    Isn't the reason you guys worked so hard *exactly* the reason you're claiming we young whipper-snappers are so "disrespectful?" Whenever I read posts like this I think about the old cliche of the grandpa who says "I had to walk to school uphill both ways in the freezing cold -- you kids have it lucky with your global warming! grumble grumble grumble."

    And what kind of respect are you demanding, anyway? I respect all the hell you guys went through. I respect that you helped create the world we live in today. You succeeded. It seems to me the reward for your struggle is seeing us young homosexuals live the childhood you wish you could have lived. You were fighting for acceptance and for future generations to not have to struggle like you did. And guess what? We're that future generation. But apparently our lack of pain isn't enough glory for you.

    And finally -- who are you to say we don't appreciate all you did for us? Do you know what we're thinking? Do you have some kind of respector detector? It's pretty ignorant to assume that no one under your arbitrarily set age limit respects you and your fight. Also ignorant? Assuming you understand the struggles we face are any less than those you faced.
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    Mar 04, 2009 11:32 PM GMT
    rezdylan saidOh snap! It's almost like we're living in a world where we're normally socialized human beings -- a world you fought to create. How offensive! /sarcasm

    Isn't the reason you guys worked so hard *exactly* the reason you're claiming we young whipper-snappers are so "disrespectful?"

    Whenever I read posts like this I think about the old cliche of the grandpa who says "I had to walk to school uphill both ways in the freezing cold -- you kids have it lucky with your global warming! grumble grumble grumble."

    And what kind of respect are you demanding, anyway? I respect all the hell you guys went through. I respect that you helped create the world we live in today. You succeeded. It seems to me the reward for your struggle is seeing us young homosexuals live the childhood you wish you could have lived. You were fighting for acceptance and for future generations to not have to struggle like you did. And guess what? We're that future generation. But apparently our lack of pain isn't enough glory for you.

    And finally -- who are you to say we don't appreciate all you did for us? Do you know what we're thinking? Do you have some kind of respector detector? Those are pretty ignorant assumptions.


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    Mar 04, 2009 11:34 PM GMT
    This thread is incredibly closed minded.

    You think you're the only one who has had to work hard and faced bigotry? I went to a fucking catholic school, where I was forced into the closet. WHERE THE HELL WERE YOU OLDER GAY MEN WHEN I WAS SUICIDAL IN MY TEENAGE YEARS! Oh, yeah, I forgot, you were busy with your own goddamn rights and circuit parties. Oh, I'm sorry.

    I worked damn hard to get where I am now, and I'm a young person, and I still don't have many of the luxuries of life. And I face bigotry here in Virginia, where I can be fired for being gay and denied housing.

    So please, spare me this garbage about not being appreciative.
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    Mar 04, 2009 11:38 PM GMT
    Bigotry is not dead. I faced it today in my staff lounge. Evidently the idea of men being together makes people nauseated...

    I am pretty sure I fit into the young category... and I have worked hard for what I have.

    Also... wasn't there a thread where hate crimes were being discussed just last month? I believe it had a video...
  • Ritournelle

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    Mar 04, 2009 11:40 PM GMT
    Oh I'm sorry, this older generation that sold us out and commodified our entire lifestyle for a little bit of acceptance? Great fucking job, that turned out so well for all of us. I don't know if the original poster is a baby boomer, but you sure as hell sound like one. So I'm not so worried because that entire group is meeting their entire demise... Now.
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    Mar 04, 2009 11:41 PM GMT
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    Parable saidBecause all these older, bitter and jaded homo's that fought for these rights can't bear to see us enjoying ourselves without (that much) fear of bigotry.


    Um, speaking as one of those older homos, it thrills me to see how much less bullshit you tadpoles have to put up with. It makes me feel like a lot of what we did was worth it.


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    Mar 04, 2009 11:48 PM GMT
    Pattison saidBecause they don't appreciate all the hard work that has been done for them, and the freedoms they were born with, that us older generations fought for.........


    I'd like specific examples of exactly how you personally contributed to the freedom of myself or my peer group of the same generation. icon_confused.gif



    Were also concerned with how were going to deal with not only the environment and political instability we have been handed over from previous generations....but now what looks like the global economy too.



  • HndsmKansan

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    Mar 04, 2009 11:49 PM GMT
    Well.. I can see this is going to be another one of those "smooth get along threads"....

    I think most people respect whats been achieved since we are still in the process of achieving it.

    If there is some thought that younger gay men don't appreciate the efforts, remember that many are just discovering who they are and are focused on self discovery....and awareness of the greater community may be limited.
    I just hate to make judgements such as this... I think it has the effect of division.icon_confused.gif
  • roadbikeRob

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    Mar 04, 2009 11:50 PM GMT
    What do cell phones and I pods have to do with this? It is because most of you younger guys are addicted to the damned things and apparently cannot live without them. These stupid high tech gadgets have just made more of you guys anti social when in public. I have observed this behavior among many of you younger guys so there is no ignorance here just the truth. Some of you younger gay guys cannot stand the truth because it hurts. Oh well too damn bad. Get over yourselves.
  • styrgan

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    Mar 04, 2009 11:51 PM GMT
    I just want to say that I am greatly appreciative of all the trials many of you older guys went through. Its not hard now to be gay. but twenty years ago, to live your life out and proud took a great deal of courage, and I admire many of you for it.
  • t0theheights

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    Mar 04, 2009 11:51 PM GMT
    I'm waiting for Pattison and roadbikeRob to say that they had to walk to school uphill in the snow, both ways, without shoes. icon_rolleyes.gif lol

    As someone else mentioned, certain members of the older generation always tend to think that they've had it tough and that the "kids today" are spoiled, ignorant, and disrespectful--forgetting that when they were young, the older generation thought the same of them.

    And I, too, would like to know what "disrespect" they are talking about? Not sleeping with them? Not enjoying circuit parties full of drugged-out older guys? (a scene that disgusts me, frankly) I don't think I see disrespect in the younger generation so much as bitterness and a false sense of entitlement in certain older men.
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    Mar 04, 2009 11:52 PM GMT
    roadbikeRob saidWhat do cell phones and I pods have to do with this? It is because most of you younger guys are addicted to the damned things and apparently cannot live without them..


    Says the guy with almost 500 message board posts...

    Stop to consider that with expanding social technology, the nature of socialization itself is changing. What you view as anti-social is entirely different than what my generation views as anti-social.

    Are you saying that online socialization with thousands of people across the world is less social than in-person socialization with dozens of people at a gay bar? I'd like to hear that argument.

    To me, it seems that a lot of the affected bullshit social niceties of old-time interaction are being abandoned for more frank, upfront, and truthful interpersonal social interactions.
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    Mar 04, 2009 11:52 PM GMT
    Define "younger" and what you mean by disrespected? It's kind of an arbitrary statement that I don't think really applies to the "community" in general.
  • styrgan

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    Mar 04, 2009 11:57 PM GMT
    No one should really be getting bent out of shape over this thread. Its really not worth a flame war. Its really just the isolated troublemaking of two posters codenamed Bitter and Mentally Unstable.
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    Mar 04, 2009 11:59 PM GMT
    bitter jaded party of two