Rush Limbaugh GOP debate is idiotic: ... "Republicans are not relevant."

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    Mar 05, 2009 2:32 PM GMT
    "... The battle to be the "de facto leader" of this party is akin to the question of who wants to steer the Titanic after it hit the iceberg. Who represents the party or its values is not relevant when only 26 percent of voters have a positive impression of the party at all and only 7 percent very positive, according to the latest Wall Street Journal/NBC News survey.

    The Democratic Party is the reverse, with 49 percent positive. When 60 percent of the country approves of the job President Obama is doing, every Republican leader is going backward.

    Republicans are not relevant. ...

    For the foreseeable future, the Republican Party is in the position of being the minority party. Until it nominates a candidate who can attract new voters and expand the base vote of the party, it will stay there" ... "

    http://www.cnn.com/2009/POLITICS/03/04/rollins.republicans/index.html
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    Mar 05, 2009 3:52 PM GMT
    The whole Rush thing really helps the Democrats. There is no need to argue with a party that is to busy fighting itself. I think the Dems have taken the strategically smart stance and have played up Rush as a leader in the GOP knowing that he scares the hell out of moderates. Rush has the same favorability rating as former President Bush which is not something that is going to help the overall party.
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    Mar 05, 2009 3:55 PM GMT
    I'm not sure if anyone has posted this yet.

    http://news.yahoo.com/s/politico/20090305/pl_politico/19641_1

    The sad thing for republicans is that Douche doesn't even believe half the crap he spews. He is using the republican party and the political situation to increase his ratings and sell books. He would gladly destroy the party he claims to support just to boost his ego and his pocket book. One thing is for certain in all this. Fat boy is laughing all the way to the bank right now. Though it probably kills him that Al Franken will be making a mint off of "Rush Limbaugh is a Big Fat Idiot and other observations" again.
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    Mar 05, 2009 4:09 PM GMT
    MonkeyPuck said I think the Dems have taken the strategically smart stance and have played up Rush as a leader in the GOP knowing that he scares the hell out of moderates. Rush has the same favorability rating as former President Bush which is not something that is going to help the overall party.
    I don't think that its really been played up at all though. All the republican leaders seem to be afraid or Rush and take their ques from him .. even fox news seems to say so:

    With Party Leadership in Question, Limbaugh Flexes Clout in GOP
    Limbaugh Cracks the Whip, and Republicans Get in Line
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    Mar 05, 2009 4:23 PM GMT
    I don't know that it's been played up all that much, but the Democrats have certainly referenced it at opportune moments -- actually probably the less Democrats say on the subject the better.

    Steele shouldn't have appologized though as he came out all that much weaker for it.

    The Republicans are on the out for now, but that could change quite quickly --- remember those predicting Republican dominance for years early in the Bush administration. The problem is there are only two parties, and when the voters become disenchanted with one they turn to the other, whether or not the other party really has all that much to offer. Without more really viable parties there's not much incentive for either of the current parties to make sweeping changes as we the voters have so few options, so as the Republicans like to remind us competition is, and in this case would be a good thing.
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    Mar 05, 2009 4:24 PM GMT
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    Mar 05, 2009 4:25 PM GMT
    Maybe the phrase "in the closet" will come to mean republican.
  • OptimusMatt

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    Mar 05, 2009 5:14 PM GMT
    I'm sorry, but it's a guuiiillltttyy pleasure of mine.

    I LOVE the US extremist political commentators. They amuse me so much. I think the best gem I've heard spill out of Ann Coulter's mouth recently is her opinions on single mothers, and how its a 'better lottery' to put the child up for adoption rather than let the single mother try and take care of the child. Rush drops bombs that are JUST as delectable (albeit a tad morally detestable icon_razz.gif)


    Oh America, I <3 you. Even when I bitch about your rampant arrogance...it's like teasing your older brother about being a douchebag, cause he got his new haircut.


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    Mar 05, 2009 6:51 PM GMT
    GuerrillaSodomite saidI'm not sure if anyone has posted this yet.

    http://news.yahoo.com/s/politico/20090305/pl_politico/19641_1

    The sad thing for republicans is that Douche doesn't even believe half the crap he spews. He is using the republican party and the political situation to increase his ratings and sell books. He would gladly destroy the party he claims to support just to boost his ego and his pocket book. One thing is for certain in all this. Fat boy is laughing all the way to the bank right now. Though it probably kills him that Al Franken will be making a mint off of> "Rush Limbaugh is a Big Fat Idiot and other observations" again.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>I think you have it right here !!!! Rush is all out for his own interests, and if his stirring up hate among the Republican base gets him what he wants, He'll do it and more. In the end though He who spreads hate and discontent, usually ends up hated, and that discontent will turn back on him and he'll lose his popularity. It may not be soon, but its coming !!!
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    Mar 06, 2009 2:34 AM GMT
    ActiveAndFit saidI don't think that its really been played up at all though. All the republican leaders seem to be afraid or Rush and take their ques from him.


    I don't think it is an over the top effort but they do keep call him a leader in the GOP.

    CNN has an article here:
    http://www.cnn.com/2009/POLITICS/03/05/limbaugh/index.html
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    Mar 06, 2009 3:07 AM GMT
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    ActiveAndFit saidI don't think that its really been played up at all though. All the republican leaders seem to be afraid or Rush and take their ques from him.

    I don't think it is an over the top effort but they do keep call him a leader in the GOP.
    CNN has an article here:
    http://www.cnn.com/2009/POLITICS/03/05/limbaugh/index.html
    Not that I am trying to argue or anything but lol, well of course they are calling him leader , but I think that is realistic given that republican leaders seem to be so afraid of him. That is, the one that people listen to = leader. Funny thing is that Michelle Steele himself referred to Rush as a "Leader" in his apology:
    http://news.yahoo.com/s/time/20090304/us_time/08599188294700Steele retracted his remarks, saying, "There was no attempt on my part to diminish his voice or his leadership." So who is this conservative leader (or non-leader), how tightly does he have Republicans wrapped around his finger, and how many five-hour energy drinks did he consume to achieve his enormous decade-spanning staying power?

    Also Limbaugh claims a percentage of conservatives
    http://thehill.com/leading-the-news/rnc-member-calls-on-steele-to-quit-2009-03-05.htmlOn Monday, Limbaugh shot back, saying on his show that Steele was not the leader of the party and that many conservatives would "hang up" when Steele's RNC came calling for contributions.

    "Limbaugh has already promised that 'His Conservatives' won't be giving to the RNC. I would suggest to you that that is a real bet," Fisher wrote. "If we can't raise money and continue to allow the alienation of the few varifiable [sic] red states remaining, we are foolish."


    Given all those things and more Rush and other Republicans are kind of pushing this issue themselves. Democrats may be taking advantage of it but that I think is reasonable given that Rush and company are trying to get in the spotlight because they want attention. A circus clown can put on a show and then say "why are people laughing at me? Why is everyone staring at me?" I would say .. "Because you are wearing a outlandish costume, big red shoes, and run around doing crazy stuff" that's why.
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    Mar 06, 2009 10:53 AM GMT
    Lush Rimbaugh IS the defacto leader of the republican party
    but the sad truth is that it Has been that way for quite sometime

    The republican party has been nothing more than a political PR campaign ever since the days of Reagan
    Ronnie brought in the realization that if you tell the people one thing
    You can do the complete opposite and no will be the wiser
    That's EXACTLY how under Ronald Reagan we got soaring deficits but people saw him as a fiscal conservative

    How in the years of Clinton we saw people who are now INDICTED and in PRISON feigning moral outrage about about his affair

    and finally how we got hit by a Mac truck and delivered into the hands of a criminal dictatorship and no one basicall said Boo

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    Mar 06, 2009 11:33 AM GMT
    ActiveAndFit said
    MonkeyPuck said
    ActiveAndFit saidI don't think that its really been played up at all though. All the republican leaders seem to be afraid or Rush and take their ques from him.

    I don't think it is an over the top effort but they do keep call him a leader in the GOP.
    CNN has an article here:
    http://www.cnn.com/2009/POLITICS/03/05/limbaugh/index.html
    Not that I am trying to argue or anything but lol, well of course they are calling him leader , but I think that is realistic given that republican leaders seem to be so afraid of him. That is, the one that people listen to = leader. Funny thing is that Michelle Steele himself referred to Rush as a "Leader" in his apology:
    http://news.yahoo.com/s/time/20090304/us_time/08599188294700Steele retracted his remarks, saying, "There was no attempt on my part to diminish his voice or his leadership." So who is this conservative leader (or non-leader), how tightly does he have Republicans wrapped around his finger, and how many five-hour energy drinks did he consume to achieve his enormous decade-spanning staying power?

    Also Limbaugh claims a percentage of conservatives
    http://thehill.com/leading-the-news/rnc-member-calls-on-steele-to-quit-2009-03-05.htmlOn Monday, Limbaugh shot back, saying on his show that Steele was not the leader of the party and that many conservatives would "hang up" when Steele's RNC came calling for contributions.

    "Limbaugh has already promised that 'His Conservatives' won't be giving to the RNC. I would suggest to you that that is a real bet," Fisher wrote. "If we can't raise money and continue to allow the alienation of the few varifiable [sic] red states remaining, we are foolish."


    Given all those things and more Rush and other Republicans are kind of pushing this issue themselves. Democrats may be taking advantage of it but that I think is reasonable given that Rush and company are trying to get in the spotlight because they want attention. A circus clown can put on a show and then say "why are people laughing at me? Why is everyone staring at me?" I would say .. "Because you are wearing a outlandish costume, big red shoes, and run around doing crazy stuff" that's why.


    I don't think we are arguing. It would be easy for the Dems to ignore him or dismiss him as the fringe, but instead they are going the strategically smart route and linking him to the GOP. I think we agree on that. I don't mean to imply it is the sole strategy or all that the Dems having going. It is just something I think they played well. Also, I think you point out that a big part of why this is working is because Rush is pushing it. This is really a case of his ego blinding him to the damage he is doing and I am personally all for it.