Anyone Suffer from ADD

  • Mikeylikesit

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    Mar 08, 2009 7:37 PM GMT
    Help!..I have suffered for years with ADHD. I went back to school this semester. My ADD is far worse. I went to my Doctor. He gave me Vvyanse. Anyone have any experience with it?. Side effects, anythng I should be concerned about....Thanks=)
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    Mar 08, 2009 9:34 PM GMT
    Yikes! Yeah I have never heard of that medication. The best thing that ever worked for me was generic adderall (30mg) which I would break into quarters and take as needed depending on my schedule. I had thought about the "wakefulness" drug modafinil which I have heard of being written off label ofr ADHD but have never tried it.

    It is hard in school or work situations dealing with ADHD. It made it difficult for me to work through college (not taking medication at the time) .. sometimes I would scale my schedule back which took longer for me to graduate but necessary since I was also working part time.
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    Mar 08, 2009 10:45 PM GMT
    Yeah, generic Adderall seems to work for me. Not as well as I would like, but better then anything else I have tried. It takes a pretty strong dose for me 45mg in the AM, and 45 mg around 1 or 2 oclock. Nothing is perfect, but at least with the adderall, I know they have been prescribing it for 60 years and when taken as directed it is a very safe medication, with few side effects for most people.

    I really feel that the Vvyanse is just another scam to extend the patent so they can get around offering a generic. This substance is broken down into the same active ingredient in Adderall. It just isn't available as a generic and it costs more. That being said I haven't tried it myself so I really can't comment on side effects, etc.
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    Mar 08, 2009 11:00 PM GMT
    Hey Mikey.
    I also have ADD and it really sucks when you have to sit and focus on things. Its like you just want to jump up and run around class yelling and flailing your arms (though I wouldn't recommend it cause people will think you're a nutter).

    Here is some info on Vyvanse.
    http://www.drugs.com/vyvanse.html

    Don't like medication myself and I deal with it the best I can. Good luck to you and have fun with your schooling!
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    Mar 09, 2009 12:20 AM GMT
    man, I'm really happy when someone actually asks questions about drugs that doctors prescribe them. I know SOOO many people who just pop whatever pills their doc prescribes.

    Vyvanse is d-amphetamine (dextroamphetamine) that is linked or bound to a naturally occurring amino acid, l-lysine. This compound is inactive (is inert) until this bond is broken by enzymes (metabolized) in the GI tract (stomach and intestine), releasing the active drug, d-amphetamine.

    Since there are no enzymes in the nasal passages that can break this bond, blood levels would be 96% lower if Vyvanse were snorted than if d-amphetamine were snorted, and 75% lower if it were injected. When given intravenously to adults with histories of stimulant abuse, Vyvanse produced less euphoric effects than d-amphetamine, and the effects were not significantly different than intravenous placebo.

    Absorption of Vyvanse is delayed, compared to d-amphetamine, and without a quick onset, the intensity and "likability" (drug-seeking behavior) drops. When Vyvanse is taken orally, increasing doses produce increasing blood levels, but only up to a certain point (130 - 150 mg), beyond which higher doses will not produce higher blood levels, which might reduce abuse potential and toxicity from overdose.

    I take 20mg Adderal IR and 30mg Adderal XR daily and have been on this for almost a year. Suddenly, the effects aren't the same. I'm sloppy again, speaking way too much, unorganized...I'm back to where I was before I started taking meds. My doc won't up the dose or try different meds so I don't know what to do.
  • Mikeylikesit

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    Mar 09, 2009 12:21 AM GMT
    Hey Guys.......Thanks for all your advice. Unfortunatly my doctor doesnt want to put me on Adderal, He claims it has addictive qualities. I only been on Vvyanse for about a week. It kinda makes me feel "high". I dunno what to Do......ugh!!.....sux
  • Mikeylikesit

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    Mar 09, 2009 12:28 AM GMT
    Dig_for_fire: I can relate. I'm afraid that over time, they will have to keep uping the doses in order to maintain the same out come. I dont wanna become addicted to this crap, Ideally i'd like to go off it in a few years. icon_confused.gif
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    Mar 09, 2009 12:28 AM GMT
    i wouldnt call it suffering ;)
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    Mar 09, 2009 12:32 AM GMT
    Guys, if your doctor will not work with you, get a new one. I have a feeling that all the non-ADD abuse of these things in the news have caused doctors to be paranoid as if they are social activists. The thing is, you are the patient and it should not be about the people who abuse or sell their medicine.

    I have not used my medication in a few years, but when I did use it, I had no problem stopping and would have preferred not taking anything. There were times I even forgot I took a dose and took it two times -- that just led to a really bad headache .. not a drug high. But hey, I have a disability I was born with and I deal with it the best I can - that might include opting to take a medicine. Anyway that is the way I feel about it.

    If a doctor wants to be a babysitter, he should become a pediatrician! icon_lol.gif
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    Mar 09, 2009 12:38 AM GMT
    MeanMikey saidi wouldnt call it suffering ;)


    Aww.......Lil Mikey.......We can "suffer" togther.......LOL
  • momewrath

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    Mar 09, 2009 12:44 AM GMT
    I'm on Adderal XR. Though, not for ADD -- it's for mild narcolepsy. Which causes me to exhibit the same qualities often.

    As far as I've seen, it's NOT addictive. I sometimes go a day or two without and never felt like I really needed some (except when I'm extra tired -- then it's really just wishing that I had taken some).

    I'm only on 30mg a day... plus the Ambien CR. Actually, I feel more like I need Ambien CR more than Adderal XR. Mostly because I never feel good the next day if I don't take Ambien before I sleep.

    Just be careful with Provigil, for sure, if you ever get prescribed. It was affecting me mentally, not keeping me alert, and wound up in the ER with accidental drug overdose using the prescribed dose.
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    Mar 09, 2009 12:50 AM GMT
    I was snooping around and found some articles. I was wondering why so many people were suddenly asking about vvynase lately. It's been around for a little while, but docs weren't prescribing it. As it turns out Adderal XR goes generic *sort of* April 1st 2009. Barr will be the only company other than Shire to be able to make a competing drug.

    As far as being addicted, I'm not worried about it too much, but tell your doc everything. I prefer the XR's over the IR's because I don't like that up and down feeling, but they are less than half the price, even with insurance. A few times I have accidentally double dosed, and it was not a good experience. I was sweating, nervous, and irratable all day. I don't see how people can take this stuff recreationally.

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    Mar 09, 2009 1:09 AM GMT
    Dig_For_Fire saidAs far as being addicted, I'm not worried about it too much, but tell your doc everything. I prefer the XR's over the IR's because I don't like that up and down feeling, but they are less than half the price, even with insurance. A few times I have accidentally double dosed, and it was not a good experience. I was sweating, nervous, and irratable all day. I don't see how people can take this stuff recreationally.
    See that's what I am talking about. The addictiveness thing is really overplayed. I think some (non-ADD) people have worse withdrawals from coffee and I don't see any clamoring to regulate it.

    Your other comment about XR also shows how individual ADD can be. With me, the 30 mg XRs made me into a YO-YO. I started with 20's but they would wear out too quick (by noon say) and so the doctor put me on 30mg which just make me spike harder and drop quicker (get real sleepy at work about 2pm) I asked about just taking a 20 in the morning and then a small 7.5mg regular adderall later to get me through that trough (the pharmacist said that was what worked for her BF), but the doctor would have nothing to do with it because it "was not what the pharm. company recommended" The problem with that is that, is the pharm company doesn't know every particular case. Consequently, my micro-doses of regular adderall worked much better for me That is the trick to the non-XR's .. don't take it all at once.

    Anyway, the moral of the story is your doctor does not always know best - sometimes you need to get another doctor. In my case I should have relied on a psychiatric doctor or specialist instead of a family doctor who really was not an expert by any means on ADD.
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    Mar 09, 2009 1:11 AM GMT
    I'm on Paroxtine for my ADD. I hope this one works for my ADD. Zoloft didn't do the the trick.
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    Mar 09, 2009 1:35 AM GMT
    I've been seeing an Psych APRN for almost a year and I'm not really happy with her. She tried me on Paxil for a little while, but after 3 days of taking it I noticed that I was having sexual side effects. I called her and said I was going off the paxil. When I told her she seemed embaressed and sort of blushed and told me that my side effects were very rare. She was more concerned that I didn't call her when I stopped taking it. Then she tried me on wellbutrin and I couldn't stop yawning or stay awake. When I went back to her I asked her if she got the message that I stopped taking the wellbutrin and she said yes and thanked me. I never called, which means she was lying. Finally, although this is really minor, she refers to my boyfriend as my room mate, which makes me think she's uncomfortable with it.

    I have an appointment with an actual PhD Psych in a few weeks, but I have 1 more appt with the APRN this week.
  • Freddo

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    Mar 09, 2009 1:48 AM GMT
    Yep I suffer from it as... OMG LOOK A DOG!
  • Mikeylikesit

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    Mar 09, 2009 1:50 AM GMT
    Freddo: Now Focus!!!.....pay attention!......icon_lol.gif
  • vj2004t

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    Mar 09, 2009 2:00 AM GMT
    I have been on regular adderall for 15 years and no side effects or addictions to it. All it does to me is just function like a regular person. Just like wearing eyeglasses all they do is just help yo see better. the problem lies with all the idiots that have never had add and not getting all of the correct dosage. Add meds do not work the same on alll people , one time the doc tried a new presctiption on me it stopped my sex drive. Hell no that wont work i am gay he put me back on the regular adderall. LOL Val icon_biggrin.gificon_biggrin.gificon_biggrin.gif
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    Mar 09, 2009 2:04 AM GMT
    Dig_For_Fire saidI've been seeing an Psych APRN for almost a year and I'm not really happy with her. She tried me on Paxil for a little while, but after 3 days of taking it I noticed that I was having sexual side effects.
    icon_lol.gif see .. bad doctor .. everyone I know says paxil is a major wood killer .. I mean forget about sex, I guess that's one distraction down icon_lol.gif Anyway good for you on looking for a better doctor.

    That reminds me, I saw a lecture by a professor at a University here in San Diego who did a study on the various meds. He came to the conclusion that the psycho stimulants were the most effective but conceded that the individual nature of ADD means some things might work for some people but not others.
  • ROYCE13

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    Mar 09, 2009 2:12 AM GMT
    I have never taken meds for ADD/ADHD. If you are taking or going to take meds, I would suggest a self direct study of the drug and available drugs and alternatives to drugs or no drugs. Doctors do offer drugs too quickly and across the board it seems. People have lead productive lives before they were told they had it, so meds are optional, but all cases are individual. So do the research, your doctor wont.
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    Mar 09, 2009 2:18 AM GMT
    Dig_For_Fire saidI've been seeing an Psych APRN for almost a year and I'm not really happy with her. She tried me on Paxil for a little while, but after 3 days of taking it I noticed that I was having sexual side effects. I called her and said I was going off the paxil. When I told her she seemed embaressed and sort of blushed and told me that my side effects were very rare. She was more concerned that I didn't call her when I stopped taking it. Then she tried me on wellbutrin and I couldn't stop yawning or stay awake. When I went back to her I asked her if she got the message that I stopped taking the wellbutrin and she said yes and thanked me. I never called, which means she was lying. Finally, although this is really minor, she refers to my boyfriend as my room mate, which makes me think she's uncomfortable with it.

    I have an appointment with an actual PhD Psych in a few weeks, but I have 1 more appt with the APRN this week.


    Aren't sexual side effects common with the ADHD drugs too? I'm mildly ADHD and probably couldn't have gotten my doctoral dissertation written without taking Ritalin. The most I ever took was 20 mg a day, but it did turn me into a (highly productive) eunuch. I had to plan sex ahead and skip a dose.

    Paxil is a horrible drug. I will not let my consulting psychiatrist put my clients on it except as a last resort. Besides the common sexual effect, it also often causes weight gain and withdrawal from it can be nightmarish for many people.

    Out of curiosity, did you ever correct your APRN's use of "roommate"? Something like: "He's not my roommate; he's my partner. PAY ATTENTION!"



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    Mar 09, 2009 2:23 AM GMT
    ObsceneWish saidAren't sexual side effects common with the ADHD drugs too? I'm mildly ADHD and probably couldn't have gotten my doctoral dissertation written without taking Ritalin. The most I ever took was 20 mg a day, but it did turn me into a (highly productive) eunuch. I had to plan sex ahead and skip a dose.
    Doc, I have to say, if anything adderall increased my desire for sex slightly .. probably because the increased dopamine .. what do you think?
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    Mar 09, 2009 2:27 AM GMT
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    ObsceneWish saidAren't sexual side effects common with the ADHD drugs too? I'm mildly ADHD and probably couldn't have gotten my doctoral dissertation written without taking Ritalin. The most I ever took was 20 mg a day, but it did turn me into a (highly productive) eunuch. I had to plan sex ahead and skip a dose.
    Doc, I have to say, if anything adderall increased my desire for sex slightly .. probably because the increased dopamine .. what do you think?


    Well, desire and performance are two different things. Amphetamines are notorious for their wood-kill properties.
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    Mar 09, 2009 2:29 AM GMT
    ObsceneWish saidWell, desire and performance are two different things. Amphetamines are notorious for their wood-kill properties.
    I just don't recall having that problem icon_biggrin.gif
  • Mikeylikesit

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    Mar 09, 2009 2:33 AM GMT
    Oh Dear!!........PLease dont tell me that, I like sex way too much.....Ugh!...I hope that dont happen to me with this stuff.......icon_evil.gif