A Solid Hope for gay marriage

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    Mar 09, 2009 5:09 PM GMT
    http://www.queerty.com/solid-hope-in-vermont-is-gay-marriage-acomin-20090306/
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    Mar 09, 2009 9:37 PM GMT
    Passing a gay marriage law in VT should be pretty easy. They were first with civil unions and are a very liberal state (except for in the upper right hand corner of the state).

    I think bigger worries are overturning Prop 8 in CA, which is apparently going to be harder than I thought.

    And the challenge just brought in the federal courts by a couple from MA demanding federal recognition of their MA marriage may have been ill-timed. It might have made sense to wait until more liberal judges were on the federal bench.

    But, in the long run, I'm confident. History is on our side.
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    Mar 10, 2009 10:18 AM GMT
    Getting gay marriage passed through the legislature is nearly a done deal. Getting the governor to not veto it, is more of a challenge. We are hoping he will let it become law without his signature. If so, Vermont will be the first state to enact gay marriage through legislative action.
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    Mar 11, 2009 6:48 AM GMT
    If gays ever want a shot at being treated equally they need to stop alienating themselves from the rest of society. It feels like so many guys wanna shove it in everyones face that they are gay. If you let being gay define who you are as a person, then yea the rest of society is going to see you as a different kind of person. Don't misunderstand me I'm not saying act straight, but trying to fit the gay stereotype is just as bad as trying to fit the straight one. Just think about who you really are. If african american's tried to get equal rights while parading around in their underwear it never would have happened.
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    Mar 11, 2009 6:58 AM GMT
    DrobUA saidIf gays ever want a shot at being treated equally they need to stop alienating themselves from the rest of society. It feels like so many guys wanna shove it in everyones face that they are gay. If you let being gay define who you are as a person, then yea the rest of society is going to see you as a different kind of person. Don't misunderstand me I'm not saying act straight, but trying to fit the gay stereotype is just as bad as trying to fit the straight one. Just think about who you really are. If african american's tried to get equal rights while parading around in their underwear it never would have happened.


    what kind of gay guys are you hanging around with that are doing these "things"?

    what do you mean by "trying to fit the gay stereotype"? what is the gay stereotype? and how do you know if someone is TRYING to do something or just IS doing something.

    and who is parading around in their underwear? are you referring to gay pride parades? you think gays aren't allowed to get married because of once a year parades?
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    Mar 11, 2009 6:58 AM GMT
    DrobUA saidIf african american's tried to get equal rights while parading around in their underwear it never would have happened.
    I will try to remember not to wear underwear next time I parade around icon_lol.gificon_lol.gif
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    Mar 11, 2009 8:37 AM GMT
    I am most supportive of the idea, that has been raised recently in california of the state getting out of the marriage business. If the state only issued civil unions for all people, then there is no "moral" grounds for the conservative christians to fight it on.
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    Mar 11, 2009 5:20 PM GMT
    Man, I hate it when heterosexuals shove their sexuality in my face. Their wedding rings, their kids, their minivans. If they were more subtle about it maybe I would hate them less...

    We are on the right side of history. As the oldest generation dies and a new one comes of age support for full civil equality grows. Our president made civil equality a part of his platform and has committed to it since being sworn in; something that would be unthinkable for any president preceding him.

    We will win this thing.
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    Mar 11, 2009 5:47 PM GMT
    collegestudent86 saidI am most supportive of the idea, that has been raised recently in california of the state getting out of the marriage business. If the state only issued civil unions for all people, then there is no "moral" grounds for the conservative christians to fight it on.
    I agree doing that would make all equal but I
    m not sure that some of our"family" would not be happy with that.
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    Mar 11, 2009 5:58 PM GMT
    I think one of the biggest HOPES we have is Canada. Because they have had GAY Marriages for 4 years now. The shk has not fallen. Crimes haven't increased, and churches still exixts. Along with more devoted partners and families. They and other countries are proving to the United States that it is not wrong. Thank you Canada, United Kingdom and other countries leading the way.
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    Mar 14, 2009 8:22 PM GMT
    Cowboiway saidI think one of the biggest HOPES we have is Canada. Because they have had GAY Marriages for 4 years now. The shk has not fallen. Crimes haven't increased, and churches still exixts. Along with more devoted partners and families. They and other countries are proving to the United States that it is not wrong. Thank you Canada, United Kingdom and other countries leading the way.


    Remember, the US is a huge country. Not all states are alike. There are some states (few, but growing) where gays are considered equal and have equal rights.