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kaccioto Posts: 270
Mar 10, 2009 2:42 PM GMT
jonathan krohn..


i'm a fiscal conservative, but will(have?) bottom for a handful of md's in my office to secure a project/deal, or even just the pitch, so i guess that makes me socially liberal, or just a whore who needs an excuse

but does anyone besides midwestern soccer moms actually take this kid seriously? i wonder how ideal he'll remain once he gets his own mortgage and has 2 kids who wanna go to privy..

in interviews, his parents gloat as expected, but you can sense sardonic undertones of shame..i think they're in on the joke
Mar 10, 2009 2:58 PM GMT
I honestly did not know who you were referring to so I had to google his name. My initial reaction was that he is a precocious, intelligent young teen who has made his mind up far too early about his political beliefs.

The fact that he developed his political beliefs listening to talk radio is frankly scary. What I have heard of US talk radio does not impress me very much. Long on brash over the top opinions that appeal to people's fears and prejudices, and short on in-depth, intelligent and well-thought out opinions based on facts.

I also have never been able to fathom why people are obsessed with trying to latch on to political labels and beliefs and sticking to them through thick and thin, as opposed to trying to figure what problems the society is facing and the best steps to resolve them.

The current economic crisis is a case in point. It is very predictable how people will respond based on their political views, not on what actually could work. Conservatives want to cut taxes, curtail government spending and minimize increased regulation, Liberals want to boost government spending, raise taxes and increase regulation. Very discouraging.
Mar 10, 2009 3:11 PM GMT
This kid is going to have a very large ego.
Mar 10, 2009 3:11 PM GMT
planekrazy saidI honestly did not know who you were referring to so I had to google his name. My initial reaction was that he is a precocious, intelligent young teen who has made his mind up far too early about his political beliefs.

The fact that he developed his political beliefs listening to talk radio is frankly scary. What I have heard of US talk radio does not impress me very much. Long on brash over the top opinions that appeal to people's fears and prejudices, and short on in-depth, intelligent and well-thought out opinions based on facts.

I also have never been able to fathom why people are obsessed with trying to latch on to political labels and beliefs and sticking to them through thick and thin, as opposed to trying to figure what problems the society is facing and the best steps to resolve them.

The current economic crisis is a case in point. It is very predictable how people will respond based on their political views, not on what actually could work. Conservatives want to cut taxes, curtail government spending and minimize increased regulation, Liberals want to boost government spending, raise taxes and increase regulation. Very discouraging.


Couldn't have said it better myself
Czarodziej Posts: 985
Mar 10, 2009 3:13 PM GMT
i have no idea to what this refers...
kaccioto Posts: 270
Mar 10, 2009 3:20 PM GMT
@planekrazy

agreed much so, party siding for the sake of ingrained beliefs/perceptions, at the expense of current issues ultimately dumbs down both sides..it's probly obvious to you b/c you're canadian, outside looking in.

i think in his particular case, political language plays second fiddle to his poster child status of home schooling where bloated efficacy triumps over real world effectiveness. he is perfect for dc.
mickeytopogig... Posts: 2718
Mar 10, 2009 3:27 PM GMT
For a movement that trotted out Joe the Plumber as someone we should take seriously, I'm impressed they chose a real heavyweight like this kid to appeal to simple-minded folks like me.

This squelches any cynicism I had about conservatism.
Mar 10, 2009 3:33 PM GMT
hmm. Damien 666 .. should fit in with the party well

it's all for you Damien
Mar 10, 2009 5:46 PM GMT
ActiveAndFit he does look like what I remember the original Damien looks like. Good catch. lol
Mar 10, 2009 5:55 PM GMT
That kid was hysterical.

Like, when he called Obama "the most liberal president in my lifetime". Well, ya. He is 14. That means Obama, two terms of Bush, and the last six years of Clinton. Of course he is the most liberal, he was the only liberal in your lifetime. It is even true of my own lifetime (and I don't count those months in utero during Carter).

While watching CPAC clips a friend commented about Krohn "Is this the political version of those people buying abstract art made by toddlers and then questioning the meaning of art?"

But, imagine being 14 again. In public school personal responsibility and following the rules gets you rewarded. Those are the very tenets of conservativism. Thinking back to my adolescence and some of the Conservative values I harbored, the ideology has a lot of appeal to the young. I just don't think it has any practical appeal.
pcsean28 Posts: 143
Mar 10, 2009 6:16 PM GMT
I don't get it, he babbles on but doesn't say anything... basically parroting the rhetoric of today's Republican talking-heads... who I guess are just parroting Reagan anyway. Good for him, then.
mickeytopogig... Posts: 2718
Mar 10, 2009 6:37 PM GMT
I remember when I was his age, I was WAY more conservative. It's delightful his parents are encouraging him, but they won't be able to deal with him during his Danny Bonaduce stage.
Mar 10, 2009 6:39 PM GMT
kaccioto saidjonathan krohn..


i'm a fiscal conservative, but will(have?) bottom for a handful of md's in my office to secure a project/deal, or even just the pitch, so i guess that makes me socially liberal, or just a whore who needs an excuse

but does anyone besides midwestern soccer moms actually take this kid seriously? i wonder how ideal he'll remain once he gets his own mortgage and has 2 kids who wanna go to privy..

in interviews, his parents gloat as expected, but you can sense sardonic undertones of shame..i think they're in on the joke


I watched this kid on CNN yesterday. Some parts of what he says make sense, but, it's still the adolescent brain at work, and, certainly, Rush Limbaugh, and talk radio, should not be his source of inspiration.

Time will tell if he gets his own talk show.
Mar 10, 2009 7:00 PM GMT
chuckystud saidI watched this kid on CNN yesterday. Some parts of what he says make sense, but, it's still the adolescent brain at work, and, certainly, Rush Limbaugh, and talk radio, should not be his source of inspiration.

Time will tell if he gets his own talk show.


You could tell he listens to a lot of talk radio. His cadence and inflections are those of Rush and Hannity. But, as the head of the GOP is Rush Limbaugh (and nominally Michael Steele/Scott) Krohn is setting himself up for a big inheritance unless the GOP finds some sane and relevant policies.
Mar 10, 2009 7:50 PM GMT
MunchingZombie said Of course he is the most liberal, he was the only liberal in your lifetime. It is even true of my own lifetime (and I don't count those months in utero during Carter).

Carter was no liberal. I miss LBJ.
Mar 10, 2009 7:54 PM GMT
growingbig saidActiveAndFit he does look like what I remember the original Damien looks like. Good catch. lol


On Wikipedia he looks a bit like Daniel Radcliffe, the actor that plays Harry Potter.
lXxAngelusxXl Posts: 59
Mar 10, 2009 7:57 PM GMT
Well personally I thought he did rather well.
He clearly addressed the issues and dealt with them.
And good for him that he can get out there and be respected by his peers regardless of his age.

Terminator Posts: 4
Mar 10, 2009 8:23 PM GMT
AWWWWWWWWWWWW isn't he cute?!

Makes you just wanna stuff him in a locker.