Broken Nose

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    Mar 11, 2009 2:22 AM GMT
    So my face met another rugger's shoulder at full pace in an unlucky turn of events and the two made sweet love causing the birth of my current broken nose. After 6 hours of waiting in the ER for them to tell me that they do not set noses anymore unless they cannot breath or stop bleeding otherwise, due to sinus complications. I've been recommending that I see a specialist (ENT Doc), but I was wondering if any of you all have any experiences you could enlighten me with so I can make the right choice in fixing my face.

    -Mike
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    Mar 11, 2009 3:08 AM GMT
    Did nothing when mine was broken back in college. Now it's crooked... a mark of character if yo will... haha. At the time I didn't have two nickels to rub together. Now that I do I'd probably still do nothing unless the break was really disfiguring.

    But my advice to you is to ask a doc what your options are.
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    Mar 11, 2009 3:25 AM GMT
    After a mugging and being kicked in the face, I went to a nose doc (after an ER visit). All I had was a deviated septum, but he wanted to carve Mount Rushmore on my nose .....for the insurance, no doubt. I passed once I was assured that the deviated septum wasnt going to cause me problems.

    The moral of the story is just be wary of what he wants to do to fix it. If it seems suspicious, get a second opinion.
  • Stephan

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    Mar 11, 2009 3:41 AM GMT
    I had my nose broken three times playing rugby. the results from those injuries has gotten me four surgeries and still needing one more. I do have a bone sticking out on the side, however, it does not look bad at all unless you really look and feel. I am waiting to see if I am ever going to go back and have it again, until the scarr tissue stops and prevents me from breathing again. I do get a lot of nose bleeds now, and the doctor said that it is hard placing the bone back because it is now on its side. Oh, well, part of playing sports, but I won't give up on it!

    Bottom line-If it does not look bad, don't fix it. Unless, you have other problems like breathing, nose bleeds, etc.

    Good luck on your decision!

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    Mar 11, 2009 4:15 AM GMT
    Well...if you can't breathe, and if you're breathing isnt really affected, then you can leave it. let the swelling go down and take some painkillers ofr the pain. If you find that your nose is bleeding or that you're having trouble breathing or if you're getting headaches (may be due to a peice of bone pressing on a nerve) then you should go to an ENT specialist and get it fixed. Otherwise, wait for the swelling to reduce then see if you're ok wiht the cosmetic effects.
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    Mar 11, 2009 4:16 AM GMT
    btw...what happeend to the other guy??
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    Mar 11, 2009 4:16 AM GMT
    I kind of agree with the other posters.

    My deviated septum was corrected. It was an excruciatingly painful surgery and recovery. The surgery didn't work.

    I would not bother myself to go through that surgery again; just leave it alone.
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    Mar 11, 2009 4:18 AM GMT
    He has nose blood all over his shoulder. I'm sure he's fine.

    If the thing is REALLY crooked, get it straightened, otherwise don't worry about it. My broken nose hooks a little to the right and only affects my archery.

    Just kidding. I'm not an archer.
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    Mar 11, 2009 4:21 AM GMT
    Mike,

    If you have health insurance, I recommend you follow up with a board certified Otorhinolaryngologist (ENT specialist). Bring your medical records to the appointment, including any x rays or other scans that have been done.

    Your doctor will ask you some questions, perform an exam, and outline your treatment options. No doctor, that I am aware of, has ever carved Mt. Rushmore on anyone's face "for the insurance money". That strikes me as being just plain silly. I'd love to see documentation to the effect that would prove me otherwise.

    If it is a nondisplaced fracture and does not interfere with function, chances are it will heal on it's own, but the edema may take several months to completely resolve.

    For a listing of board certified ENT specialists, google "American Board of Medical Specialists".

    Best of luck!

    Mike
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    Mar 11, 2009 4:37 AM GMT
    My uncle used to play rugby and now his now is permantly crooked from being broken so many times. He can breathe fine as far as I know
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    Mar 11, 2009 10:12 AM GMT
    Hmmm. Unless you are having breathing problems, why bother? You look pretty good now! icon_wink.gif Mine has been broken twice. My older brother and I physically fought ALL of the time. Then it was broken by a mother fucking hunter's rifle while defending an elk!! (But I broke the fuckers hand with the same rifle afterwards! icon_biggrin.gificon_twisted.gif )
    Anyway..mine is still slightly crooked, but it doesn't or interfere with the whole breathing process. So I just leave it.
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    Mar 11, 2009 2:02 PM GMT
    muchmorethanmuscle saidHey just curious.

    If you break your nose do the areas below the eye go black? I thought I broke my nose twice because the two times I had traumas to my nose the undersides of my eyes instantly went black.

    Is this true or a wives tale?


    Both eyes became blackened the second time my nose was broken. The first time only one darkened slighty. It may have to due with the force of the blow.
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  • steven_patter...

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    Mar 11, 2009 2:03 PM GMT
    I'll probably regret this post but ... broken noses are hot. WAY hot.

    There, the full extent of my shallowness has been revealed.
  • Timbales

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    Mar 11, 2009 2:41 PM GMT
    follow up with a specialist, get an informed opinion from a professional
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    Mar 11, 2009 8:24 PM GMT
    steven_patterson saidI'll probably regret this post but ... broken noses are hot. WAY hot.

    There, the full extent of my shallowness has been revealed.


    There's something quintessentially masculine about it.

    And it never held back ...David Duchovny

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    Mar 12, 2009 1:50 AM GMT
    muchmorethanmuscle saidHey just curious.

    If you break your nose do the areas below the eye go black? I thought I broke my nose twice because the two times I had traumas to my nose the undersides of my eyes instantly went black.

    Is this true or a wives tale?


    True. It's called "ecchymosis".
  • kcdoc89

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    Mar 12, 2009 2:16 AM GMT
    Depends on the severity of the cosmetic deformity once the edema has subsided. Just because the nasal bones are fractured on xray or CT scan doesn't mean the nose has to be repaired. I leave it up to the patient once the acute swelling has improved (in 4-5 days) and he can tell what his nose is going to look like. A closed nasal reduction should be performed within 2 weeks of the trauma (if the patient decides to proceed) since the nasal bones can become scarred into position and quite difficult to move. If a deviated septum occurs because of the trauma (which is very common) and the airway becomes obstructed, a septoplasty can be performed in a delayed fashion at the patient's convenience.
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    Mar 12, 2009 3:36 AM GMT
    26mileman saidI kind of agree with the other posters.

    My deviated septum was corrected. It was an excruciatingly painful surgery and recovery. The surgery didn't work.

    I would not bother myself to go through that surgery again; just leave it alone.


    Same here.....same surgery.
    I flip flopped whether or not the surgery worked....ultimately I say no.

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    Mar 12, 2009 1:34 PM GMT
    kcdoc89 saidDepends on the severity of the cosmetic deformity once the edema has subsided. Just because the nasal bones are fractured on xray or CT scan doesn't mean the nose has to be repaired. I leave it up to the patient once the acute swelling has improved (in 4-5 days) and he can tell what his nose is going to look like. A closed nasal reduction should be performed within 2 weeks of the trauma (if the patient decides to proceed) since the nasal bones can become scarred into position and quite difficult to move. If a deviated septum occurs because of the trauma (which is very common) and the airway becomes obstructed, a septoplasty can be performed in a delayed fashion at the patient's convience.
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    Mar 12, 2009 6:40 PM GMT
    nysexy saidbtw...what happeend to the other guy??


    Nothing, saddly not even a yellow card. It wasn't on purpose though, we didn't expect them to kick near our... so they caught up to right as I got the ball and nailed me as I went in to tackle since I didn't have time to kick it out or back.

    kcdoc89 saidDepends on the severity of the cosmetic deformity once the edema has subsided. Just because the nasal bones are fractured on xray or CT scan doesn't mean the nose has to be repaired. I leave it up to the patient once the acute swelling has improved (in 4-5 days) and he can tell what his nose is going to look like. A closed nasal reduction should be performed within 2 weeks of the trauma (if the patient decides to proceed) since the nasal bones can become scarred into position and quite difficult to move. If a deviated septum occurs because of the trauma (which is very common) and the airway becomes obstructed, a septoplasty can be performed in a delayed fashion at the patient's convience.


    Well all or most of the swelling has gone down, and my nose looks 'normal' minus that since it was broken to the point of being at a 90 degree angle on my face, according to my mates and coach, it's a bit sunken down in giving a curve to the bridge of my nose as well as knocked a tad to the side to the effect that I cannot wear glasses properly. In addition, breathing is not taxed completely, but my sinuses are acting up rather nastily, it feels like it's all draining in an odd way. I'm afraid it might heal in place a bit, since I've had bones heal out of place to the degree of needing to be re-broken and then set in just one night. Oh and no I didn't get any blackness to my eyes and the purple colouring of my nose went away after a day or two along with the swelling.

    I am going to see an ENT, thankfully I do have relatively good insurance coverage, but it's going to eat my spring break--oh well.

    Thanks for the advice guys! icon_smile.gif

    -Mike
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    Apr 12, 2009 9:14 AM GMT
    if i were u id wouldnt want it operated on. it suits ur face, it looks fine.