California Gay Killed by Extremist Religious Right group, ("The Watchmen on the Wall"), of male slavic US immigrants? Is this true????????

  • Posted by a hidden member.
    Log in to view his profile

    Mar 12, 2009 3:27 AM GMT
    I found this article on TRIBE. A man was, apparently, killed by Russian Immigrants in Sacramento, CA. They beat him to death. And, they did it in front of his straight friends. Is there truth to this story?

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~Gay - Bashed To Death~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    On the first day of July, Satender Singh was gay-bashed to death. The 26-year-old Fijian of Indian descent was enjoying a holiday weekend outing at Lake Natoma with three married Indian couples around his age. Singh was delicate and dateless -- two facts that did not go unnoticed by a party of Russian-speaking immigrants two picnic tables away.

    According to multiple witnesses, the men began loudly harassing Singh and his friends, calling them "7-Eleven workers" and "Sodomites." The Slavic men bragged about belonging to a Russian evangelical church and told Singh that he should go to a "good church" like theirs. According to Singh's friends, the harassers sent their wives and children home, then used their cell phones to summon several more Slavic men. The members of Singh's party, which included a woman six months pregnant, became afraid and tried to leave. But the Russian-speaking men blocked them with their bodies.

    The pregnant woman said she didn't want to fight them.

    "We don't want to fight you either," one of them replied in English. "We just want your faggot friend."

    One of the Slavic men then sucker-punched Singh in the head. He fell to the ground, unconscious and bleeding. The assailants drove off in a green sedan and red sports car, hurling bottles at Singh's friends to prevent them from jotting down the license plate. Singh suffered a brain hemorrhage. By the next day, hospital tests confirmed that he was clinically brain dead. His family agreed to remove him from artificial life support July 5.

    Outside Singh's hospital room, more than 100 people held a vigil. Many were Sacramento gay activists who didn't know Singh personally, but who saw his death as the tragic but inevitable result of what they describe as the growing threat of large numbers of Slavic anti-gay extremists, most of them first- or second-generation immigrants from Russia, the Ukraine and other countries of the former Soviet Union, in their city and others in the western United States.

    In recent months, as energetic Russian-speaking "Russian Baptists" and Pentecostals in these states have organized to bring thousands to anti-gay protests, gay rights activists in Sacramento have picketed Slavic anti-gay churches, requested more police patrols in gay neighborhoods and distributed information cards warning gays and lesbians about the hostile Slavic evangelicals who they say have roughed up participants at gay pride events. Singh's death was the realization of their worst fears.

    "After a couple years of fundamentalist and Slavic Christian virulent anti-gay protests at almost every Sacramento gay event in the region," said local gay rights activist Michael Gorman, "what the gay community has feared for some time has finally happened."

    The Watchmen

    Gay rights activists blame Singh's death on what they call "The West Coast connection" or the "U.S.-Latvia Axis of Hate," a reference to a virulent Latvian megachurch preacher who has become a central figure in the hard-line Slavic anti-gay movement in the West. And indeed, in early August, authorities announced that two Slavic men, one of whom had fled to Russia, were being charged in Singh's death, which they characterized as a hate crime.

    A growing and ferocious anti-gay movement in the Sacramento Valley is centered among Russian- and Ukrainian-speaking immigrants. Many of them are members of an international extremist anti-gay movement whose adherents call themselves the Watchmen on the Walls. In Latvia, the Watchmen are popular among Christian fundamentalists and ethnic Russians, and are known for presiding over anti-gay rallies where gays and lesbians are pelted with bags of excrement. In the Western U.S., the Watchmen have a following among Russian-speaking evangelicals from the former Soviet Union. Members are increasingly active in several cities long known as gay-friendly enclaves, including Sacramento, Seattle and Portland, Ore.

    Vlad Kusakin, the host of a Russian-language anti-gay radio show in Sacramento and the publisher of a Russian-language newspaper in Seattle, told The Seattle Times in January that God has "made an injection" of high numbers of anti-gay Slavic evangelicals into traditionally liberal West Coast cities. "In those places where the disease is progressing, God made a divine penicillin," Kusakin said.

    The anti-gay tactics of the Slavic evangelicals in the U.S. branch of the Watchmen movement are just as crude and even more physically abusive than Fred Phelps' infamous Westboro Baptist Chu

    tribes » Other » Homostory 101 » topics »
    Anti-Gay Movement of Immigrant Fundamentalist Christians Threatens Western States
    topic posted Wed, October 10, 2007 - 8:06 PM by SEAN
    Anti-Gay Movement of Immigrant Fundamentalist Christians Threatens Western States
    By Casey Sanchez, Intelligence Report
    Posted on October 5, 2007, Printed on October 9, 2007
    www.alternet.org/story/64336/
  • Posted by a hidden member.
    Log in to view his profile

    Mar 12, 2009 3:49 AM GMT

    My, is your title and text long or are you just happy to see me? icon_wink.gif

    Extreme dominance of the "norm" and extreme consequences for deviating from that norm, it isn't hard to believe coming from people who I myself wouldn't call incredibly "modern, civilized, free"...I had trouble finding the correct word.

    Anyway, I recently had a discussion with an RJ poster who suggested life for gays would be easier if we all just stuck to the norm even at the expense of our true selves. Well I replied back that an overbearing norm robs everyone of their freedom to express themselves or outright "be" who they want to be. Also, when the norm rules, it is usually with an iron fist and the consequences for deviation from that norm ain't pretty.

    This is a disturbing example of what I meant. It is also a demonstration of gay NOT being a choice. If it really were, who would choose it at the price of a brutal and public death. These goys and stuff need to count there blessings. I'm sure sucking dick is just as death worthy as taking it in the butt in these Slavich countries.

    Furthermore, I've known for quite sometime that being "dateless" at a certain age is a tell especially to hate filled bigots. Especially in this case, that's all it took to provoke a hate crime that ended in death: not being the biggest flamer ever, but just being dateless at a certain age and being weak enough to overpower. A sucker punch by the way, can topple even a strong man if it hits him in the right place.

    The religous right, these extremist, bigots all represent a STRONG COMMUNITY. That is why gay people need to be a stronger community as well.
  • Posted by a hidden member.
    Log in to view his profile

    Mar 12, 2009 4:29 AM GMT
    Damn! I was really hoping someone would tell me that this is not true... But, I appreciate the information, insight.... And, well, I guess I was just happy to see ya :-) (regarding length of title....) Peace, b
  • Posted by a hidden member.
    Log in to view his profile

    Mar 12, 2009 5:48 AM GMT

    Yeah, why is none chiming in on this? I'm sorry, I misunderstood, I thought you had gotten this from a trusted news source. Still, even if it isn't true, I'm sure things like it have happened anyway. I guess all of the others are busy flaming eachother, this is a worthy topic. I hope they wise up soon, OP.
  • Posted by a hidden member.
    Log in to view his profile

    Mar 12, 2009 6:41 AM GMT
    GuiltyGear said
    Yeah, why is none chiming in on this? I'm sorry, I misunderstood, I thought you had gotten this from a trusted news source. Still, even if it isn't true, I'm sure things like it have happened anyway. I guess all of the others are busy flaming eachother, this is a worthy topic. I hope they wise up soon, OP.


    It is sourced, I was just not familiar with them..... I think I will modify the title.... maybe that will spark interest.... Peace, B
  • Posted by a hidden member.
    Log in to view his profile

    Mar 12, 2009 9:24 PM GMT
    This whole thing is too wordy & convoluted for me to comprehend. Is this real or not? It like happened a year ago or something, and now it's being posted?
  • Posted by a hidden member.
    Log in to view his profile

    Mar 12, 2009 9:54 PM GMT

    True it sounds a little larger than life, but what hate crime doesn't? Man dragged to pieces by racists : boy tied to fence after brutal beating and left to die, both of these things happened.
  • Posted by a hidden member.
    Log in to view his profile

    Mar 12, 2009 10:53 PM GMT
    I dont know if a group of russians killed a gay guy but i can tell you that i know that groups psychopaths do exist. They've killed black people, they've killed others groups based on their religious views, they have killed for whatever reason, they are murderers and they needed a reason. Whether the reason was racism, religion, or sexual orientation thats just irrelevant. True story or not, won't change anything.

  • Posted by a hidden member.
    Log in to view his profile

    Mar 13, 2009 8:16 AM GMT
    charlitos saidI dont know if a group of russians killed a gay guy but i can tell you that i know that groups psychopaths do exist. They've killed black people, they've killed others groups based on their religious views, they have killed for whatever reason, they are murderers and they needed a reason. Whether the reason was racism, religion, or sexual orientation thats just irrelevant. True story or not, won't change anything.



    I did some more research .... and, THE STORY IS TRUE.... And, there are similar stories in Seattle, Portland, and other West Coast cities.... I don't know how I missed this???

    Initially, my thoughts were on awareness.

    I would imagine having information about such groups would help us to avoid, take seriously when encountered, fight, and run if necessary, etc.

    And, exposing something evil for what it is may make a difference. I have a few hundred people, some very political, that I would share the story with....