How long did it take to notice a significant change in muscle growth?

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    Mar 16, 2009 10:31 PM GMT
    I have just started lifting (never been athletic before). I have been lifting for about two months now and the most I am able to bench is in the 60-80 lbs range. My goal is to be in the 100 lbs range by next month. I am noticing not much growth in my chest as well. I know I should be patient, as I am. But could you guys, especially the big ones give me your beginners tales? How long was it before you saw results? Did you have to loose weight, maybe a belly? What amount of weights did you start out at and what did you eventually get up to lifting? Any feed back would be appreciated. Thanks
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    Mar 17, 2009 1:07 AM GMT
    If you are seeing no gains in two months, it could be that 1) you do not have proper weightlifting technique and 2) you need a change in diet.

    Some suggestions:
    If you are just starting, I suggest that you take advantage of any cheap or free introductory trainer sessions that your gym may offer with membership just to give you some reference for proper form on the various exercise stations.

    If you can find a workout partner that can be helpful. If not, don't be intimidated to ask other guys about lifting form but be careful who you ask. Once you've been going to the gym for awhile, you'll start to discern those who have better technique from the muscleheads who just want to throw up a lot of pounds any which way they can swing or heave the weight around. You want to ask people who know what they're doing. Most people are friendlier than they look to a newcomer. Asking people to spot you is one way to get some tips.

    Evaluate your diet and adjust to one that is more conducive to building lean muscle. I'm sure you can references on this site and elsewhere for good sample diets.

    Most important, just keep at it and it time, results will come.
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    Mar 17, 2009 2:57 AM GMT
    Patience. Sometimes it takes a while for some muscle groups to respond.

    And definitely proper form. I think that's when I started to make some noticeable progress. You have to "feel" your muscles doing the work. If you don't, then you're just going through the motions.
  • wduc900ss

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    Mar 17, 2009 3:29 AM GMT
    it took me about a good year to get to where I am with proper form, core strength, with the many days and weekends with supplements, cooking fresh and clean foods daily intake of protein,

    with strong structure on eating every 2 hours. following the basic guide lines on fruits, nuts, veggies and meats, fish and rest.

    with the "NOT EATING" factor after 9 pm and not heavy foods. if you cut out drinking (Im sober) that will help with the factor of your weight & size and gains.

    if you have questions hit me up, no problem with helping you get where I am

    good luck
  • UncleverName

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    Mar 17, 2009 4:56 AM GMT
    I'm studying to take my NCSA exam, and just read the other day that most (non-athletic to begin with) people's bodies don't start to noticeably change (in terms of muscle mass) until 6 - 8 weeks. The first 6 - 8 weeks, your muscles are adapting and it's just neurological changes. After that, your muscles should start to grow.

    Take before and after pictures and measurements, so that you know if you are growing or not.

    Be patient.

    And if you can, get a personal trainer (as was already suggested).
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    Mar 17, 2009 5:24 AM GMT
    I was slow to develop, it took me about two years.
  • TexanMan82

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    Mar 18, 2009 4:33 AM GMT
    It's going to take a while. You'll start seeing real changes within 6 months to a year. I mean, real changes. And this is dependent on your diet and sleep. If all three components aren't tip top, it'll be closer to a year to start seeing the changes.

    Now, to look like how you want to look. That's entirely different. I've been working out hard core now for 2 years and I've seen some real good progress. Very noticeable and nice changes. But, I try to eat as impeccably as possible and be sure to get at least 7 hrs of sleep a night---except for those bar nights, you know how that goes.

    I also don't see myself even remotely close to how I want to look. I give myself another 5-7 years before I get to about where I want to be.

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    Mar 18, 2009 3:51 PM GMT
    Thanks for the feed back I have come to the conclusion that I have some more belly fat that I am trying to get rid of, so I will have to go on a caloric deficit. That means I may have to postpone gaining a significant amount of weight for the next 5 weeks (I'm looking to loose 10 pounds in the next 5-6 weeks, eating 1300-1500 calories a day). Then, after about 5 weeks I'll change my diet to a more lifters diet. I think I'm still going to keep lifting, at least for weight loss. I imagine I wouldn't get too big but maybe I'd look more lean, say like PacificDrive, whom you've hotlisted. Take a look at his body. Maybe after weight loss I can then get bigger. I llok ok now but I still have some unwanted belly fat you can see when I sit down. It needs to be tightened up. Anyway. How does this all sound to you? Does it all seem prudent to you that I use this route. Any input would be greatly appreciated.
  • UncleverName

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    Mar 18, 2009 4:16 PM GMT
    Sorry if you read this and I misquote/misinterpret you Chucky, but here goes:

    ChuckyStud seems to always point out that you should keep eating, to keep up your metabolism. Phillawer, you are not overweight by any stretch, so the small amount of fat that you do have on you is most likely 'skinny fat', meaning that you don't eat enough as it is, and your body is holding onto every last scrap of fat that you have.

    If that is the case, then short of doing a really weird and hard core diet, you aren't likely to lose that fat by just cutting calories. If you were 30 lbs overweight, I'd think that cutting calories would help. But you aren't.

    Chucky usually advocates eating more, and working out hard. This apparently lets your body stop holding onto the small amount of fat that it is, and then you put on more muscle (which burns fat faster) and lose the small amount of fat that you have. Seems counter-intuitive, but from what I've read, makes a ton of sense.

    I'm trying to do that myself right now, with mixed results. No abs right now, but I am actually putting on muscle mass, for the first time in 2 years.
  • TexanMan82

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    Mar 18, 2009 4:20 PM GMT
    I would suggest not to worry about that little bit of belly fat and just try to put on muscle. The more muscle you have, the faster your metabolism will be even when you're just sitting doing nothing.

    It's a lot easier to lose weight when you have the muscle. You're already thin. Eat like it's your job and workout hard. You'll see the results. It's just going to take time.
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    Mar 18, 2009 5:47 PM GMT
    Unclevername and Texasman82. Thanks for your insightful input. It helped out a lot. Should I be eating protein bars too? I had one last night after working out that was 30g of protein with 180 calories. How does that sound? And when is the best time to eat? before or after a workout. I notice when I eat 30min. - 3hrs before the gym I get nauseous while doing my high intensity interval cardio work out and I have to quit. But I realize that eating before gives you energy to perform better. So what should I do?
  • UncleverName

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    Mar 18, 2009 9:14 PM GMT
    I struggle a lot with the question of when to eat.

    I try to consume as much food as I can right after a work out. This is when I have a protein shake, and it's usually with tons of sugar in it. This is pretty much the only time I consider it to be productive to load up on sugar.

    This post-workout window (about 90 minutes) is also the time during which your body will actually absorb/make use of protein the best. Most times, your body can only absorb so much, and I believe it's much less than 30 grams. After a workout, your body can absorb 30+ grams of protein. If you consume too much protein, you'll know it, because you'll be farting a lot more than normal.

    A lot of people suggest protein before or during a workout, but as it sounds like for you (Phillawer), I find that this makes me nauseous and gross during my workout. So if I'm doing a morning workout, I will try to eat light carbs beforehand. Like a bagel or oatmeal. If it's too close to when I workout, and I haven't eaten, I will sip gatoraide during my workout. This gives me enough energy to get through it, without wanting to throw up the whole time.

    For the rest of the day, I try to eat as much as I can. I personally have a tough time actually eating 3000 calories, which I know is the bare minimum for my body if I want to grow. So I pretty much try the seafood diet (as someone else on here called it): I see food, and try to eat it. I try to make sure it's not sugar (unless during or right after a workout), and not alcohol. For me, for this to work, that means eating every 2 hours, or 3 at the most. Lots of veggies, but lots of carbs and fats. An afternoon protein shake on top of whatever other food. And at night, I drink a protein shake before bed. I usually still wake up starving in the middle of the night, so I've been trying to eat almonds or some other fatty food that takes longer to digest and process. It works some nights. I'm also going to start putting a banana on my bedside table, so that I can eat something.

    Last night I woke up at 4AM and couldn't get back to sleep, but was too lazy to go get food and didn't want to wake up my roommates. So I grabbed the peppermint patty that I had bought for my partner that he hadn't ate, and scarfed it down. This was enough to let me sleep. Not the healthiest, but it worked.

    Hope some of that helped. It's basically what's been working for me to put on muscle mass (extremely) slowly. Your results may vary icon_smile.gif