Pope: condoms not the answer in AIDS fight in Africa

  • Menergy_1

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    Mar 17, 2009 2:02 PM GMT
    Nope, the Vatican advocates abstinence to curb the spread of the disease...icon_rolleyes.gif


    The link didn't appear in my original message -- here it is as intended:

    http://www.comcast.net/articles/news-general/20090317/AF.Pope.Africa/

    Then there's the "pray away the economic troubles," too....
  • TexanMan82

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    Mar 17, 2009 3:31 PM GMT
    What do you expect him to say? It's the Pope.
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    Mar 17, 2009 4:16 PM GMT
    Big surprise. The Catholic hierarchy is still stuck in the Middle Ages when it comes to understanding human sexual behaviour.
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    Mar 17, 2009 4:18 PM GMT
    Why am I not surprise, the pope who is a Nazi, conservative has no insight into humanity.
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    Mar 17, 2009 4:28 PM GMT
    This is all that needs to be seen/said.

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    Mar 17, 2009 4:30 PM GMT
    Oh, and maybe this too:

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  • Menergy_1

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    Mar 17, 2009 4:53 PM GMT
    I had no idea he was an Ori!!!! LOL Go figure.
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    Mar 17, 2009 5:04 PM GMT
    The Catholic Church has a Nazi as its Pope. Do rational people need to listen to what he says?
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    Mar 17, 2009 6:14 PM GMT
    How about the practical idea that MARRIED couples would like to use condoms in AFRICA so they don't have more children then they can support.
    EVEN Italian Catholics roll their eyes on this matter.

    And what about the notion - "GOD forbid!" that a married couple enjoy having sex without fear of STD's or having an unwanted child.

    Yes they should burn in hell....the notion - sex should not be enjoyed....ughhhhh!

    For my Catholic friends - please don't be offended....but the Pope is a SCHMUCK!
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    Mar 17, 2009 6:19 PM GMT
    who ever said the pope was to be taken seriously
    no offence to catholics and their beliefs , but to me the pope is nothing but a bad drag queen
  • Rookz

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    Mar 17, 2009 6:19 PM GMT
    The Pope doesn't even know what sex is, his the Pope!

    Oh wait, they do have sex... with the little boys. But they'll make up some reason it's ok for it's somewhere in the bible that states its fine for priest to molest little boys.
  • OptimusMatt

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    Mar 17, 2009 6:22 PM GMT
    Greg0201 saidOh, and maybe this too:

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    Greg, shhh - Master doesn't like it when you reveal his secrets.
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    Mar 17, 2009 6:22 PM GMT
    wait... this just it...

    Cannibals love the taste of human flesh and pedophiles can't get enough of children.




    The Vatican has had a good long history of failing to address the real problems of the world with real, scientific solutions. But hey, at least they are finally taking a wishy-washy stance on holocaust deniers. A big improvement.
  • Timbales

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    Mar 17, 2009 6:23 PM GMT
    feeding frenzies are funny
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    Mar 17, 2009 6:23 PM GMT
    Bottom line, the Pope's an idiot. People are gonna fuck no matter what.
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    Mar 17, 2009 9:00 PM GMT
    Well my personal experience of Catholicism, is that it's pure evil, and always has been. The Nuns rape the soles of young children, with barbarric acts of violance, and repression and the priests rape children. They kill souls not save em.

    If there is such a thing as the power of the Priesthood, the Pope lost his centuries ago, because the catholic church is so corrupt. And history tells us evil too, when it was a Super Power. It still has not gotten over the fact it is no longer a super power. The Pope should keep his business within the walls of Vatican City, and enforce the law of celibacy onto the priests, a vowel they have taken, and the rest of the world has not.

    There would not be so much hunger in poverty stricken countries, where the only stimulation for many of em is sex. Thus unwanted children, more hunger, more suffering and death. All because the Pope tells em they can not, should not use condoms.
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    Mar 17, 2009 9:02 PM GMT
    Dude the Pope is a flamer. Have you sen those Prada shoes he wears. Yeah, big homo
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    Mar 17, 2009 9:04 PM GMT
    Well, hes only half wrong, condoms alone won't solve the problem of AIDS in Africa, actually the leading cause of infection in Africa is mothers breast feeding their children... Brest milk is only second in potency to direct blood to blood contact...

    That being said, condoms would be a major step in the right direction and the Pope is clearly not a Dr.
  • Sebastian18

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    Mar 17, 2009 9:16 PM GMT
    TheIStrat saidDude the Pope is a flamer. Have you sen those Prada shoes he wears. Yeah, big homo


    EPIC WIN!

    On a serious note, anyone who has the time and is willing to wade through Catholic Catechesis and Doctrine might find more about the Pope's perspective here:

    Catechism of the Catholic Church: http://www.usccb.org/catechism/text/

    Specifically:

    http://www.vatican.va/archive/catechism/p3s2c2a6.htm

    On the topic of no condoms, anti-homosexual acts and that silliness that our pontiffs in high-drag enjoy:

    CASTI CONNUBII
    http://www.vatican.va/holy_father/pius_xi/encyclicals/documents/hf_p-xi_enc_31121930_casti-connubii_en.html

    Humanae Vitae
    http://www.vatican.va/holy_father/paul_vi/encyclicals/documents/hf_p-vi_enc_25071968_humanae-vitae_en.html

    It's all really interesting stuff. Again, not Roman Catholic or Christian for that matter, but theology and Church History kind of gets me a little excited...



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    Mar 17, 2009 9:34 PM GMT
    I so remember when AIDS was called the gay plauge, and religious leaders would stand up and claim, it's Gods punishment to the homosexuals, and now it's the heterosexual plauge, and no such talk goes on!
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    Mar 17, 2009 9:43 PM GMT
    No one said condoms were the "answer"! That's a ridiculous claim. A condom IS a prophylaxis to decrease the chance of spreading HIV until a cure might be found. There has NEVER been proof of any group of people that were absolutely abstinent (outside the normal monastic places).
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    Mar 17, 2009 9:51 PM GMT
    You know, he's right. Don't use condoms.

    Reminds me of something I once read in National Lampoon: "No intelligent life on other planets, but, their are Catholics."
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    Mar 17, 2009 9:57 PM GMT
    I'm not going to bash the pope, or Catholics, but isn't the pope just an irrelevant figurehead now?
  • Sebastian18

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    Mar 17, 2009 10:10 PM GMT
    mickeytopogigio saidI'm not going to bash the pope, or Catholics, but isn't the pope just an irrelevant figurehead now?


    Personally, I think the papacy's realm of control should be strictly relegated to his particular religious tradition or at least within the general Christian ecumeny - that is to say, inter religious dialogue and general church councils.

    That being said, he is indeed a figure-head who's moral advice (whether one agrees with it or not) is just as deserving to be heard as that of the Dalai Lama, the Patriarch of Constantinople, the Archbishop of Canterbury, and even (sad to say) Rick Warren. Acting on it is an entirely different issue.

    The unfortunate thing about the whole issue in Africa (out of the many that already exist) is that the line of demarcation between religion and national identity is unclear and unstable at best. In cases where clergy have more sway than elected or imposed leadership, it makes sense that people will follow their advice.

    Looking at Central America in the '60s through the '80s we have groups of opressed people with no voice but the Church to help defend them. Granted, Liberation theology turned out to be somewhat of a failed experiment, but it was something that the people needed and worked to end a lot of bad deals.

    As for the whole no-condom thing. John Paul II did a lot of scientific and ethical surveys on the subject, especially discussed in his Theology of the Body lectures, but the fact remains that as long as the Catholic Church subscribes to Thomist "Natural Philosophy" there's a slim chance that they'll allow condoms anytime soon.
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    Mar 18, 2009 5:44 AM GMT
    *force flips Darth Benedict XVI*