TIPPING....yes or no

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    Oct 19, 2007 5:48 PM GMT
    It’s been 2 years since my last massage so I’m treating myself next week. What’s the proper protocol on tipping? I can see tipping if the masseur works in a spa and pays a percentage to the spa owner but what if they have their own studio such as in my case? I realize their providing a service but then so is a personal trainer and you don’t tip them after a workout, do you?
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    Oct 20, 2007 12:54 AM GMT
    I tip 20 percent regardless of whether it's a spa or private practice. But I think it's important to pay people well.
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    Oct 20, 2007 1:09 AM GMT
    The rule I was taught was that you never tipped people who were self employed; but always tipped employees 15%, or more if service was exceptional.

    For example, if you were to go to a hair salon and have your hair cut by the owner then you would not tip; however if you went to the same salon and had your hair cut by one of the employees, then you would tip.

  • iHavok

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    Oct 20, 2007 7:39 AM GMT
    i learned when working at a bar, that it's considered rude to tip the owner if he's your bartender...

    but it does make sense...
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    Oct 20, 2007 8:27 AM GMT
    I'm starting back to college next year for my BA in Audio Engineering, but I have been in the salon industry for 21 years now... here's the rule, which generally holds true for masseurs/masseuses too...

    If you like the service, tip (10-15% of the service, exclusive of products you may purchase, is customary)... if you don't, don't tip. At the holiday season, the tip should be a little larger than usual and at any other time if the service is outstanding. Whether booth-renter, self-employed or on a salon's payroll, most of us in this industry pay our bills with our paycheck and live week to week (sometimes day to day) on our tips. Most stylists/estheticians that I've known tend to be insulted if they don't get a tip, especially if they've given a good service to the client.

    Booth-renters and self-employed people have the added financial responsibility of purchasing their own supplies and in some cases, all the furnishings of the salon/spa as well as rent and utilities... plus paying their own income taxes quarterly, purchasing malpractice insurance, purchasing the appropriate licenses to do business, and let's not forget that wonderful extra tax the IRS calls "self-employment taxes". None of that is cheap. For example, the scissors I cut hair with cost about $800 (and some cost upwards of $1000 a pair), but you can't do a decent haircut with cheap scissors...
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    Oct 20, 2007 2:24 PM GMT
    briar i've worked in the restaurant biz for over 20 years, and trust me, there's no restaurant owner who is too proud to turn down monwy, no matter how he gets it.
  • Starboard

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    Oct 20, 2007 3:16 PM GMT
    hotversguy's point sounds like common logic. No one is going to be offended when offered extra cash. But tipping is a convention that is universal in the US -- and perceived as "crazy" in many other countries. What was meant to be a gesture of appreciation has been totally perverted in the US (for example, when the "volutary gratuity" is automatically added to the total bill for a large party in a restaurant -- regardless of the quality of service). The 15-20% standard and "no tipping to business owners" practice is a part of the tipping convention -- it has nothing to do with "quality of service", it's an entitlement that has been adopted by many industries from hotel valet's to pizza delivery guys . Interestingly, when the delivery guy brings the order to your door in Japan (in real dishes -- which are picked up outside your door after your meal), your food comes with a little envelope containing a 500-yen coin, in appreciation for your order...
  • CincyBOJ

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    Oct 20, 2007 8:55 PM GMT
    On the topic of tipping ... what is customary to tip when there are 2 tip lines (where one line is for the head waiter) on the receipticon_question.gif