Help: Slender guys bulking up?

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    Mar 18, 2009 5:49 AM GMT
    So I've always been very slender, I have 4 brothers and am the smallest out of all of us. I've never been someone whos weight really has gone up or down rather than never changed much at all (yet). I work out and am very active yet never have noticed much of a diff.

    So I'm just curious as to others out their who may have been in a similar situation as myself did you decide to beef up or did you just remain being slender? If you did bulk up what was your reason for it did you do it for a guy or for personal reasons?

    I've never really had a desire to want to bulk up a lot. However I do realize that having muscules are sexy after all i myself do find them sexy.

    So my next question is if I decide to bulk up....

    Since it's not something that really comes natural to me and I've never been a big guy. I know I'll have to work hard at maintaing it. But if I got really busy and didn't work out as much for 3 months will I shrink back down to being slender again or will the muscule turn into jello? "Cause the last thing I want is to have some flubber on me cause that not exactly cute either yall"

    Any advice or answers to that would be great cause I truly am curious as to If I decide to bulk up If for w/e reason I took a break from working out what would happen?
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    Mar 18, 2009 6:05 AM GMT
    Hmmm...

    Principle the first

    Jello can never turn to muscle and muscle can never turn to jello

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    Mar 18, 2009 6:13 AM GMT
    When I say Jello I mean fat. If you take a break from working out do you loose the muscule and shrink back down to what size you were prior to that or does it loosen up and turn into fat?
  • barriehomeboy

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    Mar 18, 2009 6:38 AM GMT
    I don't understand what people really mean when they talk about bulking up. There was a chic at work who thought it meant overeating and then losing weight afterwards. That guy who weighed 1,500 pounds must have forgotten the losing afterwards part I guess!

    Buy some bodybuilding magazines. Tear out all of the pages with advertising, then read what's left. There are a couple of gay-oriented bodybuilding mags. Men's Workout and Exercise For Men. One of them seems to have gone out of business, but I can't remember which one at the moment. Check your local newstand, or where you buy your porn mags.

    The world of men is divided into fat people, skinny people and muscley people.

    The str8 guys call the naturally muscley guys "easy gainers." We would call them the guys with muscles in grade 8 we jacked off thinking about.

    You're not one of them evidently. Although you are undoubtedly cute enough to jack off thinking about.

    You're naturally lean and fat free. That will keep you alive long after your classmates have been killed of by their weight and bad choices of foodstuffs and wine.

    It is possible for a lean guy, like you and me, to put on some muscle and be attractive, but you're not going to look like Arnold.











  • NYCguy74

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    Mar 18, 2009 6:39 AM GMT
    i've always been slim, had some medical issues so haven't been working out as much recently, I've just lost size, not changed to fat.

    also keep in mind that if you keep eating the way you have to when you're working out after you stop, then yes you will start to change to fat, but if you adjust your diet to your activity level, you shouldn't have a problem.

    and keep in mind to see any reasonable gains at your size, at least 150g of protein a day, and if your metabolism is as high as you say, probably 2500 calories (if not 3000) just to try and add some mass without getting huge.
  • barriehomeboy

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    Mar 18, 2009 6:43 AM GMT
    Muscle does not turn into fat.

    When you try to increase your weight by eating lots though, your body creates fat cells in which to store the gobs of fat you're consuming.

    It's like those self storage lots that pop up in your neighborhood. They never go away.

    Even after you burn off the fat within the storage unit, the fat cells don't go away, and you get lumpy.

    You don't want to lose that lean smooth look that all men lust after.
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    Mar 18, 2009 7:02 AM GMT
    I've always been pretty thin, I'm 5'9'' and 145 pounds now. but about 3-4 years ago, I was 5'9'' and 115 pounds. I've always wanted to put on more muscle, but didn't know how. My curiosity led me to become a Personal Trainer.

    to answer your questions:

    1) muscle tissue and adipose(fat) tissue is completely different, one will not turn into the other. When you don't work out, or havn't used a muscle for a long period of time, the muscle will shrink in size, and this is a process we call atrophy.

    2)maybe you should rethink your goal if you can't be consistent with it. It took me 4 years of hard consistent work to get to where I am, and if you're going to take breaks, maybe you don't really want to get to your goal.

    3) If you DO decide this is what you want to do, here's the basics.
    It takes 3500kcal to Gain one pound of body weight, so you should be eating that much per day. Bodybuilding.com has a bunch of recipes for bulking up. As far as training goes, I highly recommend hiring a personal trainer, to start out with, to show you the right form for the basic movements (push, press, row, bend, twist, squat, lunge). once you got the right form and technique for the movements down, you can start training on your own. 5 x 5 rep scheme is the best for putting on size. pick a weight that is heavy enough for you to do 5 reps and only 5 reps. meaning you should be reaching failure at the 5th rep. and do that for 5 sets.

    hope this helps..

    -Patrick NASM, NCEP CPT
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    Mar 18, 2009 7:50 AM GMT
    barriehomeboy said

    Buy some bodybuilding magazines. Tear out all of the pages with advertising, then read what's left.






    I took you're advice.....

    Index
    6 pages of photos of Ronnie Coleman
    Atricle on proper form when crunching
    Salad recipe
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    Mar 20, 2009 6:00 AM GMT
    Thanks guys yea this def. helps. I've seen both sides of it I have some friends who have been in the military or navy and came back and just shrink back down and loose all this weight. However I've also seen guys like one of my brothers who when he's working out is in great shape but once he stops it all goes straight back into fat so he def. has his ups and downs which has always been my fear.


    Well thanks again 4 the advice and best of wishes
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    Mar 20, 2009 6:24 AM GMT
    KevieDC saidSo I've always been very slender, I have 4 brothers and am the smallest out of all of us. I've never been someone whos weight really has gone up or down rather than never changed much at all (yet). I work out and am very active yet never have noticed much of a diff.

    So I'm just curious as to others out their who may have been in a similar situation as myself did you decide to beef up or did you just remain being slender? If you did bulk up what was your reason for it did you do it for a guy or for personal reasons?

    I've never really had a desire to want to bulk up a lot. However I do realize that having muscules are sexy after all i myself do find them sexy.

    So my next question is if I decide to bulk up....

    Since it's not something that really comes natural to me and I've never been a big guy. I know I'll have to work hard at maintaing it. But if I got really busy and didn't work out as much for 3 months will I shrink back down to being slender again or will the muscule turn into jello? "Cause the last thing I want is to have some flubber on me cause that not exactly cute either yall"

    Any advice or answers to that would be great cause I truly am curious as to If I decide to bulk up If for w/e reason I took a break from working out what would happen?


    Hey man, if you like being tiny, stay that way. It's all about what you want.

    Being hunky takes work. It may not be for you.
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    Mar 20, 2009 6:34 AM GMT
    At least everyone gets that fat and muscle are not interchangeable!

    There's two major tricks to getting big:

    1) Lift light and get pumped - 5x5's really don't do much for size, but you can get pretty strong doing them. Size and strength are completely unrelated and I cite myself as an example: I squat the bar and curl 10 lb weights for biceps. Lifting light and doing multiple sets of high reps will engorge your muscles with blood and force the muscle casing to stretch, allowing your muscle more room to grow (one of the main factors limiting muscle growth is the muscle casing).

    2) EAT. The PRIMARY factor in limiting muscle growth is calories, and you'll want to keep this in mind. You cannot gain weight if you are not consuming more calories than you burn. This DOES NOT mean you will get fat. Gaining/losing weight is completely unrelated to fat mass but completely related to overall mass. You'll want to eat small meals consisting of roughly 40g of protein and 25-40g of carbs every 2-3 hours (splurge on the carbs before and after workouts for the energy boost). The main reasons for doing this is to get enough calories in and to keep your metabolism cranked (more fuel to feed the fire, so to speak). To stay lean, do HIIT a couple times a week to keep your metabolic rate elevated (Google it).

    The only thing keeping you tiny is bad diet and bad training ;)
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    Mar 20, 2009 7:11 AM GMT
    flex89 / Logan has been living with me the last 10 months, or so. Logan is a type 1 diabetic. Logan went from 135 to 210 in 5 months, doing HIIT, high rep training, and eating hard. He lowered his bodyfat level by 2% in the process gaining almost 80 pounds of muscle during that time. I trained Logan for hypertrophy and not strength, and he's built to the gills, despite having a chronic disease. Along the way, we also improved Logan's HBA1C score, and his insulin sensitivity.

    I'm 5'5" and weighed 175 at 16 years of age, at 12% fat, in high school. I had the fifth highest strength index in our school. I've been tested many times over the years for my abilities. For me, it's easy, but, I grew up on a cattle ranch in Nebraska where food was not fried, not sweet, and it was a corn, meat, potatoes, diet, most days. My normal set point is around 200 to 210 pounds, but, eating hard, I can nudge is up to as high as 230.

    Calories are key.

    Some folks (ectomorphs) have tiny bone structures and it's a bit harder for them to gain. Often, they also have minor metabolic disorders. By far and above, however, guys fail at getting that "hunk" thing because they simply don't eat. It's not uncommon for us to eat 5000 calories, or more, in a day.

    When I go to lean out, I bring my calories UP in order to sustain more physical activity and to activate my metabolism. A fueled furnace burns hot.

    Like anything in life, anything worth doing should be worth doing well. If you're sick of being tiny (I was 125 in 6'th grade), then make a plan to get on a see food diet (you see food and you eat it), and get bigger. The wonderful thing about being short is that it's well suited to bodybuilding.

    If you don't wanna' get bigger, that's o.k., too. Many folks don't have the discipline, time, money, method, or patience to be good in strength sports.

    Beyond all else, it's about eating.

    For me, after 34 years of doing it, I love it as much as ever. Thankfully, science backs up my efforts with great numbers on my CMP.

    Perhaps you should start working out, eating more, give it a year, and see where it leads you. Many folks fall in love with the way it makes them look, and feel, and how folks treat them. Physical presence effects folks at a primal level.

    Good luck!