What if science discovers the reason of being gay, do u want to hear why?

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    Mar 23, 2009 2:21 AM GMT
    What if science discovers the reason of being gay, do u want to hear why?
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    Mar 23, 2009 3:03 AM GMT
    Yes! Though I'd then lock myself in a room and read the study over and over again... looking at the methodology, results, and conclusions sections carefully.... And also researching the organiztions which sponsered the study... and do background checks on the researchers..... all to make sure the study was no overly bias.
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    Mar 23, 2009 3:11 AM GMT
    I could deal with it, no matter what it was.

    I had a very long talk with my Mormon Nan, the other day, about my sexuality. I said "Nan, some religious people think it's a lifestyle choice. Nan do you think I would of chosen this, and if I did I would of changed it as a teen." She laughed at it being a choice. My 92 year old Mormon Granny.
  • styrgan

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    Mar 23, 2009 3:13 AM GMT
    No. As far as I'm concerned, there will be no point to it... My rights and my love and respect for myself are not derived from the validity of the argument that my sexuality is biologically normal but from faith in the fundamental goodness of love.

    I also am uncomfortable with the fact that when people ask me, "So why are people gay?", I would have to answer, "Well, my mom had the flu in her second trimester" or "Yeah. A series of genes in my X chromosome are sequenced differently." I think that sounds kind of degrading.

    Can't I be gay because I want to "write my own story?" Can't there be more to it than just chromosomes or hormones or whatever?
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    Mar 23, 2009 3:20 AM GMT
    Oh G-d, here we go again. If it's a lifestyle choice, they want you dead; if it's genetic, they want you dead too. So, no I don't really care. I'm sure it will make a fascinating hour-long documentary on the Discovery Health channel.

    I'm with Styrgan, but let's face it, some people just like the cock. You know who you are.
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    Mar 23, 2009 3:23 AM GMT
    If I had a scientific reason it might be easier to explain instead of "I just like dudes, ok??" so sure... lets here why...
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    Mar 23, 2009 3:44 AM GMT
    At the end of the day. It really doesn't matter. It was never a choice for me. Oh I have had times I wished I could of changed it. But I am what I am, and what I am needs no excuses.

    I belive it comes from our mothers body not being able to deal with the hormones of the male inside her. So her body tries to feminise the fetus, so it wont reject it.

    So even if it was from our mothers getting the cold, while pregnant. I doesn't change anything, we are what we are. I would still get to write my own storey, as It's what we do with it, that makes so many of us diffrent. Thus we have a diffrent storey too write. We are not one, nor are we all the same!
  • Anto

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    Mar 23, 2009 3:48 AM GMT
    Sure. It's good to know the why of things.
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    Mar 23, 2009 3:49 AM GMT
    I could hear how or why, but it wouldn't change anything. I'm already in love with penis.
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    Mar 23, 2009 3:52 AM GMT
    Then let me ask another question! What if a gene causes and they find a way to repair it! What will your response?
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    Mar 23, 2009 4:41 AM GMT
    Why not?
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    Mar 23, 2009 4:45 AM GMT
    KURTADAM saidThen let me ask another question! What if a gene causes and they find a way to repair it! What will your response?
    Not sure what I would of said to this 20 years ago.

    But I'm now middle aged. I've lived with this all my life. I would keep things as they are. I'm also, way to old to start to breed now. I have no issues with being a homosexual.
  • EricLA

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    Mar 23, 2009 4:46 AM GMT
    Discoveries on the topic haven been coming out for years, so sure. Most evidence these days suggest there is no one reason. But even if there's a test developed on a biological cause, if I were to take it and I turn out to be negative, that doesn't change things for me one way or the other.
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    Mar 23, 2009 4:48 AM GMT
    Sure, but I'm more curious to know how the Pope would take the news?
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    Mar 23, 2009 5:31 AM GMT
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    KURTADAM saidThen let me ask another question! What if a gene causes and they find a way to repair it! What will your response?
    Not sure what I would of said to this 20 years ago.

    But I'm now middle aged. I've lived with this all my life. I would keep things as they are. I'm also, way to old to start to breed now. I have no issues with being a homosexual.


    Would you judge a homosexual that was interested in taking the biological "cure"? I'm really curious what someone with your response would say.

    I'm not trying to start a war or flame or whatever. But I'm a little younger (I think...102?) and I'm not out and while I've dealt with it in my head since 11 or 12, I've done absolutely nothing about it (which is a tragedy at this point). So I haven't lived a huge chunk of my life as an out and proud homosexual. I've lived a year of my life being out to one person, that is not lifestyle-defining at this point. If they found some stem cell based or gene therapy based cure, that was based on science and facts and it was proven and replicable, would you be offended if people like myself or maybe teens that just "tested positive for gay" took this cure.

    Because we all say, "If it was a choice, why would I choose this?" like it's crazy to have chosen it. And if a "cure" existed and we chose not to take said cure, then where does that leave the "why would I choose this?" argument.



    I do want to clarify that I'm not saying that I would opt for a pill to cure my homosexuality. I'm too anxious and anticipatory of gay love and gay relationships and gay sex, not to mention that I don't want to give up gay traits (clothes, musicals) that I get a lot of pleasure out of and wouldn't want to disappear if that's how this all ended up working.
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    Mar 23, 2009 5:34 AM GMT
    First, do you understand the reasons for having heterosexual tendencies? Why are we attracted to the ones we are attracted to?

    I lust after other men; that's that. icon_idea.gif
  • Tiller66

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    Mar 23, 2009 5:35 AM GMT
    I don't know if I would want to know why. It's way too late for me to change if it was something that can be"fixed" and I'm kinda afraid of what some would use the knowledge for.If it was something that was genetic that could be enginerred someone would probluly use that to make a fortune by feeding a peoples fear.If it was something genetic but could'nt be changed that would open a whole other can of beans.Two possible outcomes of that could be that suddenly the religous community would be for abortion if testing showed that the unborn had the gene and of course then a debate about wether or not it was a good gene or bad.And then of course some if not most of the gay community would say see it's not a choice.And then there is the other side of possible ansewers it could be proven that it is a choice and I just won't even go into all the things that it could bring out.But I'm pretty sure of one thing it won't do no matter what is proven right and that is bring understanding and actceptence.So I think it's better we never find out with science.
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    Mar 23, 2009 5:39 AM GMT
    Recommended viewing: Hard Pill http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0443530/
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    Mar 23, 2009 5:48 AM GMT
    andymatic saidRecommended viewing: Hard Pill http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0443530/


    I watched that a couple of weeks ago on Logo online (free!). It was interesting, which is why I wanted to explore this topic a little more before the thread dies. That film was a little biased though, because the cure wasn't perfect.
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    Mar 23, 2009 5:52 AM GMT
    we need the formula icon_twisted.gif
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    Mar 23, 2009 5:56 AM GMT
    and what if this gene can be realized before we born?
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    Mar 23, 2009 6:11 AM GMT
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    KURTADAM saidThen let me ask another question! What if a gene causes and they find a way to repair it! What will your response?
    Not sure what I would of said to this 20 years ago.

    But I'm now middle aged. I've lived with this all my life. I would keep things as they are. I'm also, way to old to start to breed now. I have no issues with being a homosexual.


    Would you judge a homosexual that was interested in taking the biological "cure"? I'm really curious what someone with your response would say.

    I'm not trying to start a war or flame or whatever. But I'm a little younger (I think...102?) and I'm not out and while I've dealt with it in my head since 11 or 12, I've done absolutely nothing about it (which is a tragedy at this point). So I haven't lived a huge chunk of my life as an out and proud homosexual. I've lived a year of my life being out to one person, that is not lifestyle-defining at this point. If they found some stem cell based or gene therapy based cure, that was based on science and facts and it was proven and replicable, would you be offended if people like myself or maybe teens that just "tested positive for gay" took this cure.

    Because we all say, "If it was a choice, why would I choose this?" like it's crazy to have chosen it. And if a "cure" existed and we chose not to take said cure, then where does that leave the "why would I choose this?" argument.



    I do want to clarify that I'm not saying that I would opt for a pill to cure my homosexuality. I'm too anxious and anticipatory of gay love and gay relationships and gay sex, not to mention that I don't want to give up gay traits (clothes, musicals) that I get a lot of pleasure out of and wouldn't want to disappear if that's how this all ended up working.


    Matey would I judge another homosexual, for wanting to cure his homosexuality? Absolutely not! This would be his right of choice. I would hold no contempt for him at all.

    Now if it was one of my husbands. I would feel something, because I would be about to lose something. But I still would not judge him, nor feel contempt either. I would have no right to try to stop him either.
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    Mar 23, 2009 6:13 AM GMT
    KURTADAM saidand what if this gene can be realized before we born?


    Then I'm sure the abortion rate would rise, even by those who are strongly against abortion, a right to lifer.
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    Mar 23, 2009 6:21 AM GMT
    I love hearing what science uncovers, no matter what it is. Slowly but surely, science explains the until-then unexplainable. "Miracles" and other such phenomena will be explained by science at some point, things that "higher beings" have supposedly been responsible for will be explained, and possibly, the reason for being gay might be explained too.

  • Anto

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    Mar 23, 2009 9:24 AM GMT
    Then let me ask another question! What if a gene causes and they find a way to repair it! What will your response?

    Would be interesting but I wouldn't call it a 'repair' to modify someone from being gay to straight.

    and what if this gene can be realized before we born?

    I don't see how that would change anything. I think that would fall under the same issue of ethics of knowing that your unborn child was black or a certain sex and genetically modifying them to be white or a different sex, or even inter-sexed.