"Here u are.U know u exist.No one has to explain this to u.And if u're here,clever beings that u are, something intelligent had to have been here first to have MADE U." Agree or not?

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    Mar 25, 2009 11:52 PM GMT
    "Here u are.U know u exist.No one has to explain this to u.And if u're here,clever beings that u are, something intelligent had to have been here first to have MADE U."
    Agree or not?
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    Mar 25, 2009 11:54 PM GMT
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    Mar 25, 2009 11:55 PM GMT
    no I don't believe that a god made us.

    I don't believe in god..
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    Mar 25, 2009 11:58 PM GMT
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    I couldnĀ“t understand it. Spelling conventions and punctuation exist for practical reasons.

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    Mar 25, 2009 11:58 PM GMT
    NO I do NOT agree that "something intelligent" had to have been here first to have made us.

    The universe is vast and constantly changing/evolving... we are the top of the animal part of that... a logical evolution.
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    Mar 26, 2009 12:23 AM GMT
    All that rethoric, for such a simple marginal point? Geez! some people really like to take the panoramic route!! icon_wink.gif
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    Mar 26, 2009 12:23 AM GMT
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    I couldnĀ“t understand it. Spelling conventions and punctuation exist for practical reasons.



    Dang, YOU beat me to it! I was about to say the same thing.

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    Mar 26, 2009 12:27 AM GMT
    Yeah...I mean...I guess my Mom and Dad were intelligent enough.

    What was the point of this again?
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    Mar 26, 2009 12:31 AM GMT
    RuggerATX saidYeah...I mean...I guess my Mom and Dad were intelligent enough.

    What was the point of this again?



    WELL SAID ! good point
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    Mar 26, 2009 12:34 AM GMT
    KURTADAM said"Here u are.U know u exist.No one has to explain this to u.And if u're here,clever beings that u are, something intelligent had to have been here first to have MADE U."
    Agree or not?


    I'm not clever enough to "figure" this one out. Sorry.
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    Mar 26, 2009 12:35 AM GMT
    meh - if there 'is' some intelligent force that 'created' us I doubt we have the capability to understand how we fit into that picture or why we are a part of it.

    Kind of like how we're made up of cells, and the whole of us consists OF those cells, but individually...the cells lack the ability to understand the entirety and enormity of what they form.

    So I choose to exist, and mull over the thought that if there IS a god...I'm a small part of it. Which basically equates to Matty=God. hehe icon_twisted.gif
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    Mar 26, 2009 12:36 AM GMT
    Wow men...Nobody heard or read John Locke?
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    Mar 26, 2009 12:40 AM GMT
    KURTADAM saidWow men...Nobody heard or read John Locke?


    I had the joy of reading his work when I got my Philosophy degree. His spelling and grammar was not as tortured as yours.
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    Mar 26, 2009 12:42 AM GMT
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    Mar 26, 2009 12:42 AM GMT
    People who spell the word "you" as "u" make me RAAAAAAAAGE
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    Mar 26, 2009 12:44 AM GMT
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    KURTADAM saidWow men...Nobody heard or read John Locke?


    I have, had the joy of reading his work when I got my Philosophy degree. His spelling and grammar was not as tortured as yours.






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    Mar 26, 2009 12:45 AM GMT
    it's good to hear that mate but u r mistaken....
    Locke wrote in his Essay Concerning Human Understanding, "of the existence of God by demonstration; and other things by sensation."
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    Mar 26, 2009 12:45 AM GMT
    Oh my word! I didn't realize it was you, Maddox!

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    Mar 26, 2009 12:46 AM GMT
    KURTADAM said"Here u are.U know u exist.No one has to explain this to u.And if u're here,clever beings that u are, something intelligent had to have been here first to have MADE U."
    Agree or not?


    This is called recursion. So once you get tom something intelligent making me we start this cycle again only about the intelligent being that made me. Then we get to do it again only this time it is about the intelligent being that made the intelligent being that made me. Then we get to do it again this time is is about the intelligent being that made the intelligent being that made the intelligent being that mad me and it goes on for forever.
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    Mar 26, 2009 12:47 AM GMT
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    Good catch.
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    Mar 26, 2009 12:48 AM GMT
    KURTADAM saidWow men...Nobody heard or read John Locke?

    I have. Now have you heard of whole sentences, punctuation & grammar, as Locke did? This is a thread, not Twitter. icon_razz.gif
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    Mar 26, 2009 12:49 AM GMT
    KURTADAM saidit's good to hear that mate but u r mistaken....
    Locke wrote in his Essay Concerning Human Understanding, "of the existence of God by demonstration; and other things by sensation."


    Are you attributing your original quote to Locke? I am fairly confident he didn't use "U" for you nor "u're" you're. That would be your doing.
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    Mar 26, 2009 12:49 AM GMT
    In fact it's all about intuition gentlemen not God...
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    Mar 26, 2009 12:52 AM GMT
    KURTADAM saidIn fact it's all about intuition gentlemen not God...


    The quote leads to recursion irrespective of being about God, god, gods, or dogs.
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    Mar 26, 2009 12:53 AM GMT
    KURTADAM said"Here u are.U know u exist.No one has to explain this to u.And if u're here,clever beings that u are, something intelligent had to have been here first to have MADE U."
    Agree or not?


    As MonkeyPuck pointed out, if that statement had any validity, then it would imply an infinite regress. If any given intelligent being (such as you or me) requires a creator, then THAT intelligent being also requires a creator, and so on, ad infinitum.

    Fortunately, it is NOT valid. There is no basis for assuming that intelligent beings require an intelligent creator.