ATTN: Los Angeles folks... need advice

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    Mar 26, 2009 2:41 PM GMT
    Looking to be in town in the end of May for a work-related conference. Trying to be as economical as possible, so I may stay with my sister-in-law in Fullerton and drive in (conference is going to be at the Convention Center on Figueroa St. in Downtown LA). I already know that I am asking for trouble on the freeway, but my question is HOW MUCH trouble? am I looking at a commute of at least two hours in if I have to make a meeting at 8am? what about getting out of Downtown LA.... same deal? Would it be better to stay at a hotel, you think?


    And on the topic of hotels... any of you familiar with the Mayfair on West 7th? bad neighborhood?

    Thanks guys.... I know it's a lot of questions.
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    Mar 26, 2009 3:13 PM GMT
    Fullerton?? icon_eek.gif stay as close as you can
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    Mar 26, 2009 3:20 PM GMT
    Well... Fullerton really isn't that far away, but the morning traffic on the 5 is nasty. If I were you I would drive up early morning like around 6 and grab coffee or something downtown. Getting back in the afternoon won't be a picnic either, might take more than an hour depending on what time you are on the road. If that seems like too much of a hassle, just go for a hotel...
  • Ritournelle

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    Mar 26, 2009 3:27 PM GMT
    To give you some context about commuting to downtown LA: I live in Hollywood, really close to the 101. I go to USC, which is approximately eight miles away. In rush hour it takes a minimum of an hour to get there. This semester my classes start later, but I sure as hell come back home during rush hour. Thursday and Friday are by far the worst. It took me two hours to get home last Thursday.

    On a final note: You should be able to get incredible hotel deals because it's off-season, and that whole economic collapse thing.
  • metta

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    Mar 26, 2009 3:46 PM GMT
    I have spent my entire life living in LA County but I don't commute. I work from home and rarely have to deal with a lot of traffic. I have seen the morning traffic a couple times and found it to be terrible.

    Why not just spend the night before the conference near the convention center? And spend the rest of the time at your sisters. That way you will not have to deal with the morning traffic. And many of the downtown hotels have commuter buses that go to the convention center.

    I agree with 'mynameisrusty', if you do stay with your sister, go early to avoid the traffic. Take a nap in your car while you are waiting. I went from the Anaheim Convention Center (for the natural products expo) to music center in downtown LA (to go see pippin) a few weeks ago on a Sunday afternoon. The traffic was pretty heavy and it took me a about an hour to get there. I did get off the freeway a little early and took side roads in the downtown area which was a lot faster at the time.
  • metta

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    Mar 26, 2009 3:48 PM GMT
    Ritournelle saidTo give you some context about commuting to downtown LA: I live in Hollywood, really close to the 101. I go to USC, which is approximately eight miles away. In rush hour it takes a minimum of an hour to get there. This semester my classes start later, but I sure as hell come back home during rush hour. Thursday and Friday are by far the worst. It took me two hours to get home last Thursday.

    On a final note: You should be able to get incredible hotel deals because it's off-season, and that whole economic collapse thing.


    Wow....that is terrible. I don't know anyone else with a commute that is that bad. Since it is only 9 miles, wouldn't it be faster to take side streets? I have a friend that goes from the San Gabriel Valley to Tustin and it normally takes him about 40 minutes in the morning. We used to have a neighbor that worked in Hollywood and drove from the San Gabriel Valley to Holywood, which took him way over an hour during the morning traffic. But that is probably around 30 miles away.

    What can really make things even worse is when there is construction on the roads.
  • dannyboy1101

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    Mar 26, 2009 3:59 PM GMT
    For our worst snowfall this winter in Chicago, my usual hour commute home lasted 5 1/2... I got home in time to go to bed. A friend of mine told me that there's a subway system in LA that is not being used since one of the big auto moguls paid them off to just build a shitload of expressways and make a buck off car sales. Is this true? If so, why don't they open it in the current nightmare of traffic now? I feel Chicago needs even more track.
  • metta

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    Mar 26, 2009 4:02 PM GMT
    dannyboy1101 saidFor our worst snowfall this winter in Chicago, my usual hour commute home lasted 5 1/2... I got home in time to go to bed. A friend of mine told me that there's a subway system in LA that is not being used since one of the big auto moguls paid them off to just build a shitload of expressways and make a buck off car sales. Is this true? If so, why don't they open it in the current nightmare of traffic now? I feel Chicago needs even more track.


    Well....not exactly. It was not a subway but it was a mass transit system. And yes, the car companies did pay to have it taken down. LA is in the process of building some mass transit. I'm looking forward to the expansion of the Gold Line. When that is done, LAX and ONT will be connected with the system.
  • xquotient

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    Mar 26, 2009 4:07 PM GMT
    There is a subway and some people do use it but the stops aren't as far reaching as they would need to be to have it help much. LA and the surrounding areas are extremely dense and far reaching; the subway just doesn't cover that much area.

    downtown isn't the most fun spot to be in. even for someone who knows their way around la, the one way streets and layout just are anoying in dt. it would save you a LOT of stress to just stay in a hotel closer than with your sister and use that as your home base if you want to explore some other areas
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    Mar 26, 2009 4:08 PM GMT
    dannyboy1101 saidFor our worst snowfall this winter in Chicago, my usual hour commute home lasted 5 1/2... I got home in time to go to bed. A friend of mine told me that there's a subway system in LA that is not being used since one of the big auto moguls paid them off to just build a shitload of expressways and make a buck off car sales. Is this true? If so, why don't they open it in the current nightmare of traffic now? I feel Chicago needs even more track.


    That happened a LONG time ago. It was called the Red Car and it was a street car system. Watch "Who Framed Roger Rabbit." icon_smile.gif There very much is a subway in LA, but it doesn't really go very many places. It's quite nice, though! I used to ride it from North Hollywood to downtown.

    I'd advise staying downtown. Why subject yourself to the traffic? The 5 is a nightmare. The area around the convention center has improved *dramatically* over the past ten years. What used to be a total wasteland is now full of restaurants, shops, hotels, etc. There are still some very sketchy areas, but west 7th isn't bad at all. There are other great hotels down there. Check out the Standard. They have a killer open-air rooftop lounge, great cocktails, DJs, and a very hip crowd.

    Lot of good restaurants downtown too. If you like Japanese food, check out Little Tokyo. Great sushi, shabu-shabu, and yakitori. There are some great bars too. I haven't been back in a few years, but my friends insist I must come and visit again soon to see just how much downtown has changed. I used to hang out down there a lot when I lived in LA.

    Enjoy your trip!
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    Mar 26, 2009 4:08 PM GMT
    We do have a subway here... In some parts is above ground rail though. Its configured in the shape of a T more or less, connecting Pasadena to Hollywood and runs south to Long Beach. Its a start, but when you are trying to design a mass transit system for the largest, most sprawling city in the country it just isn't enough. Some people are able to live and work along the rail route, but for most commuting via car is the only option.
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    Mar 26, 2009 4:48 PM GMT
    I live in Long Beach and commuted to downtown LA for years. It took me a minimum of an hour - usually closer to an hour and a half. Fullerton is further away from Long Beach so you're probably looking at an hour and fifteen minutes to two hours.

    A couple of options, though...if you don't mind getting up super early and leaving by 6am, you can beat the traffic and there are a couple of gyms in downtown so you could catch a quick workout. Getting home, though, might be a problem.

    If you do stay at a hotel, check out priceline.com. I've been able to get rooms in downtown at 3 and 4 star hotels for as little as $50.

    Good luck!
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    Mar 26, 2009 5:35 PM GMT
    Yeah, I think that's what I am going to do... let William Shatner do the work for me. He (actually, priceline.com) was the one that found the Mayfair on West 7th at a reasonable rate with air ticket and car included... that was why I asked. But... if I can stay with my sister-in-law, it's a penny or two saved. probably lose it to gas anyway, huh?

    Anyway... that will probably be the way I go.
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    Mar 27, 2009 3:12 AM GMT
    Find a hotel in downtown Long Beach. Then take the Metro Rail to LA. The train ride is less than 1 hour, and there's a train stop 2 blocks from the Convention Center. It's very convenient. And you don't have to pay the outrageous parking fees.

    Plus, Long Beach is about 30 minutes from Fullerton. With traffic, it's probably over 45 minutes. So it will be pretty easy to visit your sister-in-law afterwards. And there's more to do in Long Beach. The area around the Mayfair is kinda boring. Not much to do or see.
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    Mar 27, 2009 3:25 AM GMT
    Better idea...plus no driving/traffic.

    Metrolink (I think there's a stop in Fullerton), transfer to the Metro Red Line (subway) at Union Station, transfer to Metro blue line (at 7th street), 1st stop is less than a 5 minute walk to the convention center. No idea how long the fullerton to union station part would take (I would guess about half an hour), but the Union station to convention center should take about 15 minutes. Cost would be about 15-20 a day.
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    Apr 04, 2010 1:17 PM GMT
    get me 2 beers and i just might fuck

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