Earth Hour......8.30 tonight!!!

  • zakariahzol

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    Mar 28, 2009 2:42 AM GMT
    Do anyone in Real Jock participating. I plan to have nothing on except the internet and one fan . Since I am in Eastern Hesmiphere. I be starting earlier than you guys. Please..please do you part for this little planet that have given us so much.

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    Mar 28, 2009 5:21 AM GMT
    I have decided that since I am not a breeder. I will not be leaving my sperm to inherit this earth. So breeders have used more resources than I ever shall. So such actions are not my responsibility!

    But in many ways, it's something I do on a daily basis.

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    Mar 28, 2009 6:57 AM GMT
    No beef today. So much energy required to raise beef.

    Beef Sunday, maybe.
  • zakariahzol

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    Mar 28, 2009 10:51 AM GMT
    I just cant believe it. Hardly anybody here bother with something as important as this. Most of us are more interested in what the guy above you are wearing and etc than a global environmental crisis.
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    Mar 28, 2009 11:06 AM GMT
    I like the concept, but it's only for an hour. How does that "help" the Earth? Thanks for showing me this, I haven't heard about it anywhere else.
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    Mar 28, 2009 11:09 AM GMT

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    I'z ready... bring it on!!!
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    Mar 28, 2009 11:11 AM GMT
    I hadn't heard of Earth Hour. I am surmising we are all suppose stop using as much electricity as possible betw. 8:30 and 9:30 pm local time.

    What's that supposed to do in the long run, if at 9:30 I turn everything back on? It's not like I am gonna change my lifestyle and not use electric lightbulbs (I have already switched to fluorescent bulbs), or stop watching the TV (I already only watch the news and the History channel).

    All I am left with is the internet and running the furnace (which is new and governed by a modern thermostat). Oh, that sounds a lot like what you said you are gonna do for that one hour.

    I recycle my kitchen waste back into my garden. I recycle my glass, plastic, paper, and metal thru the city's recycle program.

    I eat organic food that saves the Earth from pesticides and chemical fertilizers. I dont use pesticides in my own garden (syrphid fly larvae, parasitic wasps, and ladybugs do the job very nicely)

    I have worked from home for 2 years so my gasoline usage is minimum.

    What else can I do?

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    Mar 28, 2009 11:12 AM GMT
    Nobody is interested in this because it is a stupid endeavor. The whole idea of human caused global climate change, or what we used to say was Global Warming, is asinine. Wonder why the powers to be started calling it Climate Change instead of Global Warming? Because now it now looks likes the globe warms and colds on it's own. It has for ever. Duh. Big Ice Age, Small Ice Age...When will the global warming guys admit that they were totally wrong and that the globe warms and cools on it's own schedule and that we do not know why BUT it has happened repeatedly over the last 100 thousand years. The world warms, then it cools. It has forever. Before man was here.
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    Mar 28, 2009 11:26 AM GMT
    Triggerman saidNobody is interested in this because it is a stupid endeavor. The whole idea of human caused global climate change, or what we used to say was Global Warming, is asinine. Wonder why the powers to be started calling it Climate Change instead of Global Warming? Because now it now looks likes the globe warms and colds on it's own. It has for ever. Duh. Big Ice Age, Small Ice Age...When will the global warming guys admit that they were totally wrong and that the globe warms and cools on it's own schedule and that we do not know why BUT it has happened repeatedly over the last 100 thousand years. The world warms, then it cools. It has forever. Before man was here.


    I plant trees, and created something green, out of something that was nothing but rock and clay.

    Global warming has been a wee bit of a joke down here in Vitoria Oz. Over all, we have had a very mild summer.
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    Mar 28, 2009 11:31 AM GMT
    I live in a very family-oriented suburban neighborhood....nearly every house on my street has kids....Last year, guess which was the only house with the lights turned off trying to save the planet for future generations?
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    PS: mine! The house with no spawn.
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    Mar 28, 2009 11:33 AM GMT
    Yeah, I plant trees also. I work from home. I live in a 600sft house. I recycle everything. I buy used clothes. I cause NO carbons. And I jackoff every night thinking about how neat I am. I am greener than anyone. And I masturbate to that also. Damn, I am am holier than than anybody....
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    Mar 28, 2009 11:36 AM GMT
    I agree Trigger.

    I think we have, as a species, this perpetual superiority complex, that we are SOOO significant, the sun revolves around US, or we can alter the climate of the earth... as if the Sun, the life source of our entire solar system, heating and cooling with various sunspot activity, has no such effect. The Sun, which controls our seasons according to earth's tilt towards it, cannot possibly have as great of an effect upon our climate as people.

    It just so happens that sunspot activity increasing and decreasing has an exact correlation with increasing and decreasing global temperatures. we are NOT in the warmest period in history, or even human history, as the Middle Ages were warmer. also, we actually havent been warming since 1998, as we are now in a cooling trend, as sunspot activity has decreased.

    we are also not the only planet in our solar system experiencing climate change. Pluto (although no longer classified as a planet), Jupiter, Neptune, etc, all experiencing climatic changes, Mars' ice caps were melting in the same period we were experiencing warming.

    How does us driving SUV's cause climate change on Mars? Al Gore forgot to explain that one to me. OH! and, just an interesting side note... recent ice core samples of CO2 levels have shows that there IS, in fact, a correlation between increased CO2 in the atmosphere, and temperature variations. Remember Al Gore had that graph that showed how they lined up perfectly?

    Well.... it turns out, that the conclusions of this study showed that the relationship is not what we think. To believe anthropogenic (human caused) climate change, we have the assumption that we emit CO2, and then temperature increases with the more we emit, following along the same lines as the CO2 - it increases, temp increases. However, the study showed the opposite. That temperature in global climate would increase and decrease, and that CO2 emissions would FOLLOW the changes in temperature. and not only that... but they would follow by nearly 800 years of lag time behind the temperature increases.

    So... what will I be doing earth hour? Maybe doing some research on climate science and real environmental issues, and not engage in a symbolic display of supporting the effort to stop the world from spinning.
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    Mar 28, 2009 11:56 AM GMT
    I run a huge business from my house. I do not drive to work. I do not drive home from work. I do not heat my house. In summer I do not cool my house. I buy most of my clothes second hand. I barely make a carbon footprint.

    But, I still think that global warming is the biggest joke ever foisted upon modern man. It is a joke, with serious consequences. It is all about making Western society, which has given us most of all the greatest achievements in science, feel guilty about achieving all we have. Western society has achieved, America in particular. The rest of the world has not. So, take America down. Europe is dying as a culture. Great Britain is struggling. France? Please. So, the last bastion of democracy, the USA, is still holding on. Take it down also. America is bad. Our culture is bad. Please.

    We are the last great experiment of democracy. And we will do well. Whoever is the President. America is an idea, not a person or a party.

    We will do well and we will succeed, as always.
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    Mar 28, 2009 12:03 PM GMT
    Triggerman saidYeah, I plant trees also. I work from home. I live in a 600sft house. I recycle everything. I buy used clothes. I cause NO carbons. And I jackoff every night thinking about how neat I am. I am greener than anyone. And I masturbate to that also. Damn, I am am holier than than anybody....


    Well and I'm not connected to sewerage. We have treatment plant, so everything thing that goes down the drain, toilet, ends up on the garden.

    Oh God I'm good too, and now that gets me all hot as well. Need too go now and cast my seed on the ground......
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    Mar 28, 2009 12:04 PM GMT
    MeOhMy-

    I think I am in love! Not because you think like me, and question authority, and all the assumptions that everyone accepts and does not questions.

    I just love that someone thinks! On Their own? And does not turn to Al Gore for science!

    Thank you!!!! Awesome!!!!!

    Finally, an independent thinker......
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    Mar 28, 2009 12:08 PM GMT
    Sorry, Oh_God,

    Mine was sarcasm. I do not care where your shit ends up. Not really.
  • DCEric

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    Mar 28, 2009 12:25 PM GMT
    I will, I did last year. For those that don't get 'why' we should do it, it is suppose to raise awareness, not directly reduce emissions. The point is that everyone using electricity contributes to global warming, and that there are ways to do everyday things with less electricity. It is an awareness campaign, not a conservation campaign.
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    Mar 28, 2009 12:45 PM GMT
    The point is that everyone using electricity contributes to global warming,

    Really? My electricity comes from geothermal. How does that contribute to global warming?
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    Mar 28, 2009 12:52 PM GMT
    Every time I leave my apartment I turn off everything by either unplugging or using power strips. If nothing else it helps me save on my electric bill. Most of my light bulbs are energy savers so yes I do my part if you want to look at it that way.

    Al Gore? You mean as in 'An Inconvenient Truth'? Hahahahaha He almost got me on that one I'll admit, but now I know better maybe not fully but enough. Next up: Carbon Tax and how it is good for the environment! Hahahahahaha
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    Mar 28, 2009 1:03 PM GMT
    Triggerman,

    You have no evidence though to back up your claim. And people didn't just start calling it Climate Change one day. People have been calling it climate change since the 1950's. It is the correct term. Global Warming is what happens from the Greenhouse Effect. Climate Change is the big picture. Think Global Warming is the false? We wouldn’t be here without it.

    You deduce that scientists now call it climate change to convince more people... since Global warming is technically wrong? I remember talking with you in the past about this. You apply reasonable logic at times when you have little information about the subject.

    I even remember your response when I called it anthropogenic climate change.... your response showed your ignorance on this subject--yet you type as if you have done a scientific thesis paper of research denying climate change.

    MeOhMy,

    Your theory about human nature can be correct. Yet there is also another piece--humans are selfish and egocentric. IF we are causing climate change, we would have to alter our lifestyles significantly. Many... especially conservatives.. do not want to do that. Many worry about money rather than future generations. Rarely do people come across the hard facts from scientific papers. Instead we rely on others to interpret studies for us.

    BTW please cite your source for that study.

    Few truly understand the complexities of this potential environmental threat. The people and associations who support this theory are not boneheads. and they are not all influenced by each other. These are some of the brightest men and women on this planet. It is sort of funny that we are capable of believing scientists when is comes to the laws of physics, germ theory, cell theory, atomic theory, evolution, etc. but the theory of anthropogenic climate change is so controversial. A lot, not all, but a lot of the resistance seems to come from the business sector--worried about losing money.

    It is amazing that we are even here. So many things had to happen exactly the way it did to provide a planet that ability to sustain life. Earth is at a fragile homeostasis. If we rock the boat too much in one direction, it may have drastic consequences.

    If we could alter our lifestyles, nevertheless, at perhaps a slower rate.... in 10+ years when we find out the solid truth. A.) If it is false, we would not have changed drastically enough to effect society.. And B.)If is it true, we may be able to adapt to new living conditions.

    It is funny though... under Bush the government subsidized fossil fuels $1,000,000,000.00... yet alternative sources of energy were subsidized $1,000,000.00

    In all, there is very little credibale peer-reviewed data out there supporting the anthropogenic climate change deniers... after all the debate is over. The climate is changing... the question is, are humans casuing it? The is significant data to support anthropogenic climate change... eveidence from national and internationsl science organizations... which have reputations to protect... meaning, they don't just spew out random junk and call it a fact or a theory.

    Someone once said, "If the scientists are wrong, faith in scienece will be deminished for over 100 years. but if the scientisits are right and we act, millions of people and other species could be saved."
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    Mar 28, 2009 1:05 PM GMT
    I'm participating my turning on my AC even if I don't need it and every incadescant light bulb in and outside the house, run the washer and dryer AND use the computer, TV and stereo.icon_exclaim.gif

    Buncha silly-assed, makes-me-feel-good ideas....
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    Mar 28, 2009 1:12 PM GMT
    Okay, so explain to me why this is at night time. Wouldn't it be better during the day when there is actual light out and you are not in the dark? It could even get people to go outside for that time. Sure there are businesses that couldn't participate but there are businesses that couldn't participate anyway. I am sure nobody leaves their lights on when they go to work or when they go to sleep so why does this happen at night?
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    Mar 28, 2009 1:12 PM GMT
    Al Gore. An Inconvenient Truth. lol I think every kid in America should see this film, maybe every kid in the world, even the Congo. Even Darfur! I think every kid in Darfur should see this film. It is that important. It is life-changing. It opened my eyes!!! Kids in Darfur should see this documentary!!! It is that important!! Kids in Darfur should learn to recycle!!!!
    Grow Liberty Gardens like Obama's wife. That will change the climate! The climate will kill us!!! Kids in Darfur need this information but who is giving it to them? The UN? Are they in Darfur? No? Huh? If the UN is not in Darfur, then what really is the point of having a UN? If they are not in the world's hot spots, what is their point, really? Oh yeah, they are busy attacking the Jews. How many times in the last 5 years has the UN denounced Isreal? How many times has the UN done ANYTHING about Darfur? Zero? What exactly does the UN do? Besides condemn Jews and Isreal? Why has the UN not done ANYTHING in Darfur? Huh? Gotta love the one world idea. Thousands die daily, the UN worries about Isreal. And I am a former Catholic atheist.
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    Mar 28, 2009 1:15 PM GMT
    MeOhMy said.. as if the Sun, the life source of our entire solar system, heating and cooling with various sunspot activity, has no such effect. The Sun, which controls our seasons according to earth's tilt towards it, cannot possibly have as great of an effect upon our climate as people.


    There are several things to question. Scientists are not worried about how hot the earth is getting (btw... climate change includes that some areas will cool rather than warm). The are more worried about the rate. Temperatures are increaseing at the greatest rate ever known.

    And climate change happens over a long period of time... not just a few years or one summer. So when I haer someone say climate change is false cause they had colder temps in their city this past winter than the winter before... I ignore them, unless the can give me temperature charts from the past decade.

    Furthermore, I may be wrong, but from what i know, the Earth's climate in the past has never been significantly determined by the Sun. It have always, or mos t of the time, been due to the composition of our atomsphere. That play a huge part in out climate.

    Trigger, you hail MeOhMy for being an independent think, yet you and him get information from climate change deniers? how is that any more thatn an independent think than someone like me who gets infor from the NAS or NASA? You too are grasping onto the ideas of others.... that is not necessarily independent thinking. Oh yes, and if any of you get your information from Al Gore.... well that's your issue. I like Al Gore, but he is not a scientist.
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    Mar 28, 2009 1:16 PM GMT
    I'll be in the middle of a photoshoot, which I'm pretty sure is an "energy" suck. I'm also on trigger and meOhMy's side here anyhow...