Bigger guy needs help????

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    Mar 28, 2009 5:43 AM GMT
    Ok, so I have a friend of mine on this site, and he said that everyone on here is a great supporter no matter what. So I want to just ask some questions if someone is willing to offer help. I'm a bigger guy about 340lbs and I'm ready and willing to do almost anything to lose some weight! I just wanted to know if someone is willing to give me some advice on this matter, what I should work on things like that? just let me know.. thank you for your time!
  • nhnelson

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    Mar 28, 2009 3:36 PM GMT
    Cue chuckystud in 1... 2... 3...
  • nhnelson

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    Mar 28, 2009 3:42 PM GMT
    But seriously, just peruse the losing weight section of the forum, and you'll certainly find the information you're looking for. icon_biggrin.gif
  • phill

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    Mar 28, 2009 3:56 PM GMT
    I use to be 270lbs. I am now 175lbs.


    The things to consider at the start are that

    1. changing the way you eat cannot be considered a diet. Diets always fail. Its a lifestyle change. You are eating to live, not living to eat.

    2. exercise is necessarily to any weight loss endeavor. Do not try, Do. Be active at first for 20 minutes a day until you feel comfortable with that time limit. This activity should be something like walking. Do this for up to a month while gradually increasing the time of exercise. This will give your an aerobic and muscular familiarization so that when you decide to adopt a workout routine it will be a more smooth transition.

    3. Everyone's body is different, and as such there needs to be an ajustment period to any form of nutrition change or exercise plan. This means they will react to exercise and nutrition differently. Do not become discouraged if something does not work, but rather see it as a gradual refining of your active plan. This has worked for me.

    4. Portion size. Most people do not consider portion sizes and eat until they feel full. Most bodies cannot tell if they are full until 20 minutes after their last bite. Take your time while eating, you can always eat more later if you are still hungry. For me it was knowing that feeling stuffed was not being full but being overly full. I was associating that feeling of a heaviness of food in my belly as a sense of full.

    5. It is easy to starve oneself especially in the throws of depression about our bodies and how we are perceived in society, it is far less easy to nourish ourselves because we feel we are worthy of change and being healthy. We must be nutritious in our lives so that we can continue living for many years to come. Look for whole foods, fruits and vegetables, choice cuts of meat with minimal fat.

    6. When deciding what to eat, plain and simply do not ever eat out. Perhaps on special occasions. Use your new found energy to prepare meals. Or invite your friends over for a healthy potluck. Your wallet and your body will thank you. While some healthy options can be found its too much of a habit to eat out and too convenient. Again you are making a lifestyle choice rather than a dietary one.

    7. Visualization is the key. Look at yourself in the mirror and visualize your goals, without judgment. Say this is what i want, these are the steps i will take to get them.

    8. Practice setting small obtainable goals. I will walk 20 minutes today. Next week i will walk 25 minutes. I will look into exercise routines for when my body gets adjusted to this walking routine.

    9. Practice loving yourself. There is much about you that is wonderful and special. Exercise and body transformation can show us the best and worst of ourselves. What we are truly capable of. So it is best to get in touch with ourselves honestly. If we are honest about our motivations that we are honest about other things. Try to give yourself daily affirmations. "you are wity" "you are charismatic" "i like my eyes" "i like the way my arms connect to my shoulders" Personally i am a fan of how my jaw connects to my neck, and believe me this bit of self love has gotten me through many depressive body moments.

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    Mar 28, 2009 4:48 PM GMT
    Be careful of what you ask for on this site!
    Some of the more "colorful" members are EXCEPTIONAL sources of information, but they may have a personality that can be a bit overpowering initially. LOL! (HUGZ to Chucky!)

    Seriously, first take inventory of what your goals are, what your intake and output are. What do you weigh? what should you weigh? of this weight, approximate your composition, fat, muscle, bone (not THAT "BONE"! LOL!) figure out what you need to loose to get into a healthy body composition. BMI is a useful, if very rough and inaccurate, approximation. Get on line and do some research! This site and the articles are a GREAT source of information beyond the personal knowledge of the members. This isn't a "special diet" it is a way of living for the rest of your life, so be honest about your goals and your motivaton.

    Keep a log/journal/record of everything you put in your mouth. Food, junk, drinks, water, cookies, EVERYTHING. Figure out the calories, fat, protien, carbs, etc. At the same time keep a log of what your activity level is and what you are doing, how long, how hard, etc. Approximate your calories burned.....sites like http://www.fitday.com/ are useful and inexpensive tools.

    Best start, if you are in bad shape. drink more water, take a good multivitamin, start walking, eat more protien and more complex carbs, cut your current fat intake by 1/2 of current level.
    WATER......1 oz for every 2 lbs of your current weight.
    PROTIEN...a MINIMUM of 0.5 grams for every 3 lbs of your current weight
    COMPLEX CARBS....IE....more Veggies! not simple carbs, which are "sugars" or easy for the body to convert to sugars. Potatoes are "simple carbs", Carrots are simple carb, look at the "glycemic index" if it is High, it is a simple carb and should be more carefully ingested.
    A MULTIVITAMIN.....I like GNC MEGAMAN, but everyone has a preference and a price they are able to afford...research carefully.
    Start walking! Just do it! do it a MINIMUM of 3X a week 30 minutes, hold a pace that is fast enough that you can still carry on a conversation, but is more than a "slow resting shuffle". You should be able to get in about 10000 steps on a pedometer, or about 2+ miles in 30 minutes. 3X a week is a minimum and is considered to be a "maintenance" level of activity for weight. Weightloss is ususally about 6X a week.
    If you lift, be smart and worry about good "form" and safety over lifting too much or incorectly. INJURIES SUCK and can derail the best of plans and intentions! Use your head!

    There is alot more possible and if Chucky responds (like he won't...LOL!)..you will have the MOTHER LODE of information!
    Just start slow and work into it.
    Rome wasn't built in a day and you have bad habits to break and new ones to build...most studies say a minimum of 3 weeks to build a habit...
    GOOD LUCK and Take care!
    inteligence and dilligence will win the battle for you!
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    Mar 28, 2009 4:57 PM GMT
    Shameless self promotion here, but I gotta recommend the guys over at Nutrition For You (www.nu4you.net) and the boys from Diakadi Body ... both partners of RJ ... a bunch of us are on their programs for the Weight Loss Challenge and, for those of us who are active in the Challenge, 100% of us have lost weight.
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    Mar 28, 2009 5:12 PM GMT
    His personality is offputting, not overpowering. He is not capable of handling the human experience so he tries to make who live it feel like he is superior to them.


    Sporty_g saidBe careful of what you ask for on this site!
    Some of the more "colorful" members are EXCEPTIONAL sources of information, but they may have a personality that can be a bit overpowering initially. LOL! (HUGZ to Chucky!)

    Seriously, first take inventory of what your goals are, what your intake and output are. What do you weigh? what should you weigh? of this weight, approximate your composition, fat, muscle, bone (not THAT "BONE"! LOL!) figure out what you need to loose to get into a healthy body composition. BMI is a useful, if very rough and inaccurate, approximation. Get on line and do some research! This site and the articles are a GREAT source of information beyond the personal knowledge of the members. This isn't a "special diet" it is a way of living for the rest of your life, so be honest about your goals and your motivaton.

    Keep a log/journal/record of everything you put in your mouth. Food, junk, drinks, water, cookies, EVERYTHING. Figure out the calories, fat, protien, carbs, etc. At the same time keep a log of what your activity level is and what you are doing, how long, how hard, etc. Approximate your calories burned.....sites like http://www.fitday.com/ are useful and inexpensive tools.

    Best start, if you are in bad shape. drink more water, take a good multivitamin, start walking, eat more protien and more complex carbs, cut your current fat intake by 1/2 of current level.
    WATER......1 oz for every 2 lbs of your current weight.
    PROTIEN...a MINIMUM of 0.5 grams for every 3 lbs of your current weight
    COMPLEX CARBS....IE....more Veggies! not simple carbs, which are "sugars" or easy for the body to convert to sugars. Potatoes are "simple carbs", Carrots are simple carb, look at the "glycemic index" if it is High, it is a simple carb and should be more carefully ingested.
    A MULTIVITAMIN.....I like GNC MEGAMAN, but everyone has a preference and a price they are able to afford...research carefully.
    Start walking! Just do it! do it a MINIMUM of 3X a week 30 minutes, hold a pace that is fast enough that you can still carry on a conversation, but is more than a "slow resting shuffle". You should be able to get in about 10000 steps on a pedometer, or about 2+ miles in 30 minutes. 3X a week is a minimum and is considered to be a "maintenance" level of activity for weight. Weightloss is ususally about 6X a week.
    If you lift, be smart and worry about good "form" and safety over lifting too much or incorectly. INJURIES SUCK and can derail the best of plans and intentions! Use your head!

    There is alot more possible and if Chucky responds (like he won't...LOL!)..you will have the MOTHER LODE of information!
    Just start slow and work into it.
    Rome wasn't built in a day and you have bad habits to break and new ones to build...most studies say a minimum of 3 weeks to build a habit...
    GOOD LUCK and Take care!
    inteligence and dilligence will win the battle for you!
  • training_guy

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    Mar 28, 2009 6:16 PM GMT
    phill saidI use to be 270lbs. I am now 175lbs.




    9. Practice loving yourself. There is much about you that is wonderful and special. Exercise and body transformation can show us the best and worst of ourselves. What we are truly capable of. So it is best to get in touch with ourselves honestly. If we are honest about our motivations that we are honest about other things. Try to give yourself daily affirmations. "you are wity" "you are charismatic" "i like my eyes" "i like the way my arms connect to my shoulders" Personally i am a fan of how my jaw connects to my neck, and believe me this bit of self love has gotten me through many depressive body moments.



    That's true! They say fat people don't love themselves, love yourself and the weight will fall off.....apparently. icon_biggrin.gif
  • SimonChgo

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    Mar 28, 2009 6:20 PM GMT
    COJock1974 saidShameless self promotion here, but I gotta recommend the guys over at Nutrition For You (www.nu4you.net) and the boys from Diakadi Body ... both partners of RJ ... a bunch of us are on their programs for the Weight Loss Challenge and, for those of us who are active in the Challenge, 100% of us have lost weight.


    I do completely agree with that. You missed by few days. They just started new challenge on their website. And you always have our support. I can not belive how much better I feel when I started eating more but right foods, and of course some exercise.
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    Mar 28, 2009 6:28 PM GMT
    yooperman80 saidOk, so I have a friend of mine on this site, and he said that everyone on here is a great supporter no matter what. So I want to just ask some questions if someone is willing to offer help. I'm a bigger guy about 340lbs and I'm ready and willing to do almost anything to lose some weight! I just wanted to know if someone is willing to give me some advice on this matter, what I should work on things like that? just let me know.. thank you for your time!


    By "bigger" you mean you're a fat ass? Clearly, ambition is an issue with you. You have no picture, and failed to take even the bare minimum effort to complete your profile, yet want people to help you based on a sub-minimal effort, and giving them no information other than that you're 340 and "bigger." I suspect that this laziness is proliferate in everything you don't do.

    Number one thing: you need to change the way you view things. Anything worth doing should be worth doing well, including setting up a profile on realjock.com BEFORE you go seeking sympathy / advice. Good things come to those who help themselves. Get up off of your fat ass (it surely must be if you're 340 pounds), get some pictures, take some time to complete your profile, and define some goals. Get your fat ass up and walk, no less than 30 minutes a day. Study everything about food, nutritional, and why you engage in bad behavior that got you the way you are. Only when you understand why you let yourself go for so long will YOU be able to change. Nobody here can do that for you.

    Remember: if you continue to do things the way you always have. If you truly want change and to help yourself and not become a further burden to society you MUST change your behavior.

    Make a plan. Execute the plan. Change your behavior in bite-size pieces. Commit to changing yourself, your habits, and understanding WHY you let yourself go for SO LONG, then...JUST DO IT, with no bullshit. JUST DO IT.

    Walk into, through, and beyond, your fears, and become a regular person without all the garbage and ill health.

    Only YOU change make the change. No one here can.

    Eat. You MUST fuel the furnace.
    Exercise. Your body has to be used to be in good running condition, otherwise, it wastes away.
    Study. You have to understand food, exercise, and WHY you got so bad.
    Be patient. You didn't get to be a fat ass in one day, and you won't be a regular person in one day. Change takes time.
    Just say no to folks who engage in bad behavior. No more lunches with fat asses.
    Set incremental goals. Achieve them. Repeat.
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    Mar 28, 2009 6:33 PM GMT
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    yooperman80 saidOk, so I have a friend of mine on this site, and he said that everyone on here is a great supporter no matter what. So I want to just ask some questions if someone is willing to offer help. I'm a bigger guy about 340lbs and I'm ready and willing to do almost anything to lose some weight! I just wanted to know if someone is willing to give me some advice on this matter, what I should work on things like that? just let me know.. thank you for your time!


    By "bigger" you mean you're a fat ass? Clearly, ambition is an issue with you. You have no picture, and failed to take even the bare minimum effort to complete your profile, yet want people to help you based on a sub-minimal effort, and giving them no information other than that you're 340 and "bigger." I suspect that this laziness is proliferate in everything you don't do.

    Number one thing: you need to change the way you view things. Anything worth doing should be worth doing well, including setting up a profile on realjock.com BEFORE you go seeking sympathy / advice. Good things come to those who help themselves. Get up off of your fat ass (it surely must be if you're 340 pounds), get some pictures, take some time to complete your profile, and define some goals. Get your fat ass up and walk, no less than 30 minutes a day. Study everything about food, nutritional, and why you engage in bad behavior that got you the way you are. Only when you understand why you let yourself go for so long will YOU be able to change. Nobody here can do that for you.

    Remember: if you continue to do things the way you always have. If you truly want change and to help yourself and not become a further burden to society you MUST change your behavior.

    Make a plan. Execute the plan. Change your behavior in bite-size pieces. Commit to changing yourself, your habits, and understanding WHY you let yourself go for SO LONG, then...JUST DO IT, with no bullshit. JUST DO IT.

    Walk into, through, and beyond, your fears, and become a regular person without all the garbage and ill health.

    Only YOU change make the change. No one here can.


    Good advice chucky... but i still think you a heartless prick sometimes. And if you think your method works... market it... make an exercise video where you constantly insult fat people. I look foward to watching you on Oprah someday next to a psychologist lol.
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    Mar 28, 2009 6:36 PM GMT
    You don't have to watch Dr. Phil, Judge Judy, any other tv shows, or go to 12-step meetings, to know that getting down into the truth is how one fixes things.

    Your youthful ignorance / arrogance is noted, but, I know well what works. The wonderful part of being older is that your brain has matured and you have had years to make observations, and to study.

    Dr. Phil would confront a person with the truth. Truth is never an insult, and that's where you're ignorant. 340# is a fat ass. That's not an insult. That's reality.

    You can attack me, but, it won't help anyone: not me; not you; not the lard ass.

    And, yes, I know some of the most famous trainers around.

    The fat man has to commit, and execute, changes in his behavior, otherwise, his bad behavior will lead him to even worse circumstances. He also needs to understand how he got there. He also needs to understand that being lazy is NOT going to achieve his goals. He didn't even fill out the profile...he's so lazy. See a common trend? Uh, huh.
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    Mar 28, 2009 6:52 PM GMT
    Jornn said I was 305 lbs and now 160. i pretty well altered everything i did healthwize all at the same time , because I find if you do it cold turkey you wouldnt have so much reminding you of how much you can eat, also you can become more headstrong over your apetite and your suseptability towards people trying to get you to eat. You gotta be more than just willing to lose weight you gotta be willing to change your life. Push yourself and get rid of the overpowering tempations. you have to get a handle on the foods you eat , the reasons why you eat, and the people you are around to make you wanna eat because i think that is a big issue for everybody: if your friends are eating your gunna want to eat. So yes, still eat if they are but if you know your gunna be around them that day eat a little portion before time of something healthy and go for the healthiest thing you can see when your with them , wich gets to my next point. You gotta start being aware of what your putting in your mouth, consider everything, the content, calories, protien and don't forget about what your guzzling, just because its not food soda can be just as bad for calories and sugar. I remember eating alot of fish and and veggie stir fries. Also if you're a drinker you gotta becareful of the cravings you have after you drink , and beer is the worst! if your trying to lose, keep that in mind lol, make sure you you eat something with protien content before you go.... if you have a low metabolism exercize alot. check with a doctor about how much nutrients and vitamins your body needs to have energy, because if this is something you're gunna change it should be done smart. You can screw your body up in a few serious ways if you dont keep strong. And i doubt it any fun to be passing out every other day. Dont weight train its hard to lose if your just gunna bulk up.

    There are many times when it will be frustrating and pointless but even in these times dont break. the change in your body won't strike like lightning and keep in mind the moment you break and put something you'll regret in you mouth depending on your metabolism, thats all it needs to screw up your hard work... Good luck!


    Yep. It's about seeing truth, making a plan, and being strong. No one else did it for you. You did it yourself.

    When I train for a contest, doing 23 weeks of diet, and 18 weeks of three a days, the easiest way to explain it is The Little Engine That Could. Momentum builds. The problem with so many folks (the military changes this, as do some sports like bodybuilding) is that they have no idea what they're capable of and lack the mental discipline to execute a plan, or like in this case, are plain ass LAZY.

    Being a "Real Jock", a beautiful person, or a successful business person, requires using one's brain, successfully.
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    Mar 28, 2009 7:32 PM GMT
    Thank you for all (some of you) for your advice! The ones that were not so nice, you must be happy with yourselves, before you can be nice to others! And I have posted up some photos for the ones that want to see. But then the one that wanted to see was not so nice.
    But again, thank you all for your advice!
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    Mar 28, 2009 7:44 PM GMT
    go you... but honestly like mister chucky has stated, you have to make your goals clear. We all know that you want to lose weight and look great. Thats a fact. Sure chucky may be a pain in the ass lol (i like reading you're responses even though they are terribly harsh). He's an accomplished bodybuilder and i'm pretty sure he's done it for years and read more workout magazines than most guys on here have ever read in there life. So he knows a little bit. Set some goals, make a dieting plan, and get up and out there. There are diet plans as well as workout plans on this site. You just have to take the time to research.

    P.s. think before you post, some people can be harsh on here..
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    Mar 28, 2009 7:55 PM GMT
    "You're youthful ignorance / arrogance is noted, but, I know well what works."

    Chucky - for someone who criticizes others´ spelling so much you should learn the difference between "your" and "you´re". I wouldn´t mention it, but you were being gratuitously rude to the OP so you can take some of your own medicine.

    Make a plan, work hard, you can do it if you don´t lash out

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    Mar 28, 2009 8:06 PM GMT
    chuckystud saidYou don't have to watch Dr. Phil, Judge Judy, any other tv shows, or go to 12-step meetings, to know that getting down into the truth is how one fixes things.

    You're youthful ignorance / arrogance is noted, but, I know well what works. The wonderful part of being older is that your brain has matured and you have had years to make observations, and to study.

    Dr. Phil would confront a person with the truth. Truth is never an insult, and that's where you're ignorant. 340# is a fat ass. That's not an insult. That's reality.

    You can attack me, but, it won't help anyone: not me; not you; not the lard ass.

    And, yes, I know some of the most famous trainers around.

    The fat man has to commit, and execute, changes in his behavior, otherwise, his bad behavior will lead him to even worse circumstances. He also needs to understand how he got there. He also needs to understand that being lazy is NOT going to achieve his goals. He didn't even fill out the profile...he's so lazy. See a common trend? Uh, huh.




    In defense of youth, we can also know what works. What works for you, for your personality, for your sense of determination, does not always work for all people. Some of us find motivation in "tough love" while others find no love when it is tough. I'm also youthful enough to not attach the word "lazy" to someone that I don't personally know, don't understand his medical history, and have no idea about the rest of his life.

    To yooperman80, I don't believe you said your name, I'm glad you came here to RJ. While it can be very difficult to come forward and acknowledge that you want to change your body and improve your health, please know that it has been heard. Phill is spot on and his advice comes from a great place. Support is here even if it is hard to ask for help. I wish you all the best in your goals and journey.
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    Mar 28, 2009 8:07 PM GMT
    Lostboy said"You're youthful ignorance / arrogance is noted, but, I know well what works."

    Chucky - for someone who criticizes others´ spelling so much you should learn the difference between "your" and "you´re". I wouldn´t mention it, but you were being gratuitously rude to the OP so you can take some of your own medicine.

    Make a plan, work hard, you can do it if you don´t lash out

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    i think your midsection is pretty much damn near perfect as far as what i want for myself. just stating that. it doesnt have anything to do with the post.

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    chuckystud saidYou don't have to watch Dr. Phil, Judge Judy, any other tv shows, or go to 12-step meetings, to know that getting down into the truth is how one fixes things.

    You're youthful ignorance / arrogance is noted, but, I know well what works. The wonderful part of being older is that your brain has matured and you have had years to make observations, and to study.

    Dr. Phil would confront a person with the truth. Truth is never an insult, and that's where you're ignorant. 340# is a fat ass. That's not an insult. That's reality.

    You can attack me, but, it won't help anyone: not me; not you; not the lard ass.

    And, yes, I know some of the most famous trainers around.

    The fat man has to commit, and execute, changes in his behavior, otherwise, his bad behavior will lead him to even worse circumstances. He also needs to understand how he got there. He also needs to understand that being lazy is NOT going to achieve his goals. He didn't even fill out the profile...he's so lazy. See a common trend? Uh, huh.


    Oh chucky you're so right and I'm wrong. I hope someday when I'm an old man like you I will have half your brains.... I can only hope. *sigh* I'm just a dumby youngling full of arrogance and ignorance. Thank you for showing me the errors of my ways.

    lol... btw: Your excuse for calling people names does not justify your treatment. It is like you believe that you NEED to call people names in order to get them to lose weight and or accept their lifestyle as needing change. This makes no sense. If someone is overweight, they can change and lead a healthy lifestyle the rest of their lives without hearing some of your disgusting ad hominems. If someone is a fat ass and wants to change... what’s the point of calling them a fat ass? To make you feel better perhaps?

    If your logic made sense, more trainers would use it. Trainers are supposed to help people out. They are supposed to also show human dignity toward their clients and realize how hard it is to lose weight and keep it off in our society. Trainers know that calling their client a lard ass will only discourage them.

    Chucky I believe in what you are saying; that is not my point. My point is you do not need to insult people or call them a fat ass to inspire them... in fact in many cases I assume it would do just the opposite--depress them even more.

    It's amazing I have to even say this... it's like you have no grasp of basic human emotions. And yet you are the "mature" one you say? Mature how... in age? lol
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    Cjcscuba1984, you made an excellent and rationed response. I'd expect nothing less from you. icon_biggrin.gif
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    Mar 28, 2009 8:51 PM GMT
    People make it all sound too intimidating. Start off just exercising, dedicating a few days to 30min-1hr working your biggest muscles.

    1. Work your legs (quads)
    2. Work your chest (pecs)
    3. Work your back (lats)

    These are the biggest muscles in your body. Once you start getting these going, you'll start losing weight pretty quickly. Focus on just working out consistently and correctly, and the other stuff you'll pick up as you go.


    I started off weight training so that I could maintain my weight while still eating like crap. After a few weeks I noticed my mobility, getting up moving around, improved a lot. I felt almost gymnastic. Because of that, I started working out more. After a year of working out, I started to lose my taste for sugar and cheep bad stuff. It's been like that for me. Taking the first step was the biggest, and the rest came naturally as I got more into it.

    Don't psych yourself out. Just take the first easy step. Find out how you can work out consistently.
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    Mar 28, 2009 8:57 PM GMT
    yooper: phill gave excellent advice, take it to heart and remember: Only YOU can prevent forest fires accomplish your goals!


    Chucky, do you do steroids? Because I'm wondering if you act like a dick to compensate for your shriveled french bean of a cock.

    No one likes an asshole, and when you lose your sex appeal you'll be dropped like last weeks cabbage. Tick tock.
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    Mar 28, 2009 9:08 PM GMT
    yooperman80 saidThank you for all (some of you) for your advice! The ones that were not so nice, you must be happy with yourselves, before you can be nice to others! And I have posted up some photos for the ones that want to see. But then the one that wanted to see was not so nice.
    But again, thank you all for your advice!

    That's chuckystud. He may not be nice but he is a wise, wise man.
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    Mar 28, 2009 9:41 PM GMT
    yooperman80 saidThank you for all (some of you) for your advice! The ones that were not so nice, you must be happy with yourselves, before you can be nice to others! And I have posted up some photos for the ones that want to see. But then the one that wanted to see was not so nice.
    But again, thank you all for your advice!


    You have to come to like yourself, first, and the rest falls into place. Like the closeted gay guy, the fat person, the anorexic, etc., you have to understand the premise of the bad behavior / lack of personal honesty that leads to that bad behavior and then take action (which no other person can do) to change that bad behavior.

    In your case, being a fat ass took years of willful wrongful behavior. You now have to change that behavior, make efforts, and stay true to your goal, while coming to like yourself and understand yourself.

    While some folks would act as enablers they do you a huge disservice. You need and, in fact, MUST, take action to change, or things will remain the same or get worse. That's reality.

    The reason society is such a mess is that we've been way to accepting and "politically correct" when we should be calling a spade a spade. We have people dying in droves, needlessly, because someone won't hold folks accountable, and tell them to take charge and straighten themselves up, and quitting pleading the victim. That's how the obesity pandemic got so bad.
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    Mar 28, 2009 9:59 PM GMT
    I'd rather be lazy than arrogant.
    Arrogance is disgusting.
    Thankfully, we can all look past idiotic name-calling and extract decent advice from what's being said.
    Good luck on your weight loss, man.
    Work hard for it, it's worth it.