getting out the door

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    Apr 13, 2007 4:57 PM GMT
    Lately, I've been falling into the old deadline trap. I sit at my desk (or stay at some other work station) all day then just shuffle over to the couch for an hour or two before bed. Every day, it seems there's just ONE more task to finish before I can leave for that lunch-time workout. Then, hey presto, suddenly it's bed time!

    Anyway, today I'm setting an obnoxious alarm that I'll have to get up for. How do you guys break away from the grind to get to the gym?

    I suppose that could be one advantage to hiring a trainer. At least one who would come to the office and drag you out to the gym by force!

    What do you think of the concept of making exercise part of people's jobs? That is, paying them (up to a point) for the time in the gym. I seem to recall hearing that some asian companies have tried something like that. Of course, that would be no help for the self-employed.
  • GQjock

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    Apr 14, 2007 9:35 PM GMT
    Yeah..life sux sometimes when you get into a rut
    But somehow you have to break it and getting to the gym in any way shape or form will do that for you
    like you said hiring a trainer will help and also set you on the right path
    finding someone to workout with will also help
    ..but you have to want to get there
    you have to set a goal for yourself whether that goal is 16in arms
    a 31 waist
    ...to feel healthy
    anything that's important to you to get you thru that door
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    Apr 14, 2007 10:26 PM GMT
    I agree with GOJOCK. Just go. It gets easier as time goes on and then becomes part of you and your life.
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    Apr 15, 2007 3:54 PM GMT
    Interestingly stuff.

    Here's my take:
    1. Exercise should not be part of one's job, but, rather, an integrated lifestyle.

    2. Coddling the weak only makes them weaker. Get off your ass and hit the gym. Face your fears; walk into the light; things will get better.

    I'd never hire a smoker because of their health issues. I'd likely not hire a fat person because of those same issues.

    One doesn't wake up one day 50# overweight / out of shape. It takes YEARS of neglect to get like that. It's NOT a normal condition; being healthful and vibrant IS.

    While I think one should lead by example, and compassionate is important, nothing ever got accomplished by coddling the weak. Being all-accepting is a HUGE MISTAKE. Having standards is so very important.
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    Apr 15, 2007 4:02 PM GMT
    In the military, being smart, shooting straight, and having the ability to run fast are all important. You have to ask yourself if you'd want to be in the theater with a dumb, lazy, fat, person. I should think not. You need to ask yourself, in all honesty, if you'd like a person like that to help you run your business.

    That's why I have a standing rule about not having anything to do with pictureless. If someone doesn't like themselves enough to show a picture on the gay channel, or doesn't have integrity enough to be honest about the most basic of things (human sexuality), then, I feel they don't warrant further consideration by me. I don't need more issues. I need fewer issues.

    So, back to your question, "should exercise be part of work?" In most cases, likely not, as we all have our different preferences, but, it seems to work in Asian cultures, and they're a certain team work that's learned through team sports, as well as discipline, focus, persistence, and sacrifice learned by individual sports like bodybuilding.

    I think, as a culture, we have to become much less accepting of the fat / lazy folks. There's a pandemic of death (to the tune of 6 million annually) when we're talking about fat folks (as compared to 3000 for all illicit drug use, combined). If we're truely interested in saving lives and lowering health cares costs, we need to make being fat, or at least morbidly obese, unacceptable. We don't need to be crazy like the "war on drugs" and jail fat folks, but, they need to become unacceptable in the interest of all society.
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    Apr 15, 2007 4:58 PM GMT
    I guess my underlying point wasn't clearly stated. In the end it's a prioritization thing. Fitness is a high priority for the individual. However, the standard corporate management model at this time is to set goals that can only be met by employees who stay at work 20 hours a day. An employee who leaves his work station for ANY reason is considered "weak," and gets weeded out. (Hey, there's plenty more desperate grads with student loans to pay off where THAT one came from.) A few companies provide "lifestyle enhancements" at the work place to make the long hours more tolerable, but not any place where I ever worked, unless you count university. So what I was getting at is, "should individual fitness be a priority for the employer?"

    Personally, I've been giving the self-employed thing a shot. However, the long hours are still needed for survival. There is a definite trade-off between fitness and income.

    How about this... what business tasks can you do while working out?

    I've done teleconferencing while lifting weights. It's just that when someone asks me a question in mid-lift, it probably sounds kind of weird.

  • dreamer

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    Apr 15, 2007 7:28 PM GMT
    Dear mindgarden,
    You are so cute and idealistic in thinking so. Wouldn't that be great? In utopia, perhaps-- or in a "fitness-oriented" company or Falcon or something like that, but I don't think MCD is going to be compensating their employees anytime soon for hours spent in the gym. Or Altria, for that matter. Or AAPL or BRCM. In any case, think of your work-out time as "your" time: listen to some motivational tapes, some Mozart-- something to get your mind off work-- and perhaps reconnect with being balanced or just "being". Sorry--I know how you despise new-age self-help crap and mysticism, so I tried to be utlititarian in my response, even to the extent of using NYSE and COMPQX ticker symbols. :)
  • atxclimber

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    Apr 15, 2007 7:41 PM GMT
    I dunno, I don't think it's a universal thing. My videogame company brought in a yoga instructor (actually now I teach the class, his style wasn't such a hit) over lunches. There's a group of us that cycle, so we block out Thursday lunches for that. There's crunch time, sure, and it's hard to keep up a strong workout schedule and also work 70 hour weeks for a month or two, but a few jobs ago, the last time I went through a rough crunch, the company paid for weekly personal training sessions for any employee who wanted it with the trainer who worked in the office building gym.

    As for the larger question of motivation, I think there's a lot to be said for externalizing your motivation in ways that force you to do things. I'm doing a pretty long charity ride this coming weekend, and I'm not a fan of asking friends & family for donations, because it makes me a bit uncomfortable (and it still doesn't make any sense to me that they should feel more obligated than usual to give money to MS research just because I happen to be biking between a couple cities in Texas) but I realized once I started asking for donations that it's a great way to commit myself to training for the ride and then doing it, because I'd be bailing on the ride after all those donations were already made in my name.

    Similarly, is there any way you can obligate yourself to work out during lunches? Commit to a group of friends outside work. Or just tell your boss you have a group you do rides with, and you are leading the rides for a while so you can't skip. Or something.

    Some businesses don't seem to care, but the enlightened manager understands that a healthy, happy employee with a good work/life balance is going to produce a LOT more of value than some kid with a shiny new master's degree and no real experience.

    From that perspective, if they don't realize that, you're doing them a favor by exercising anyway.
  • atxclimber

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    Apr 15, 2007 7:46 PM GMT
    Dreamer makes a good point: when you don't have as much time to exercise, it's even more important to make the most of that time.

    My yoga teachers often begin class by asking students to choose an intention for class (could be anything from "sweat until my hands slip off the mat" to "attain enlightenment") and furthermore to consciously bring the mind into the practice, and "leave whatever's outside the room outside the room."

    If you do manage to break away from work for a lunchtime workout, do your best to notice if your mind turns back to work, and when it does, gently bring it back to focus on your breath, the sensation in your arms as you lift, the feeling in the soles of your feet as you pedal, whatever it is you're doing.

    If you manage to have a few lunch-time workouts where you avoid obsessing about work and really let your mind take a break from work and recharge on something else, you might find that you are substantially more productive the rest of the day, and that can be motivation to keep making that time to work out, too.
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    Apr 15, 2007 9:06 PM GMT
    The only thing that ever worked for me in those circumstances, mindgarden, was to start my day in the gym. I was up at 5:30 for years. It's a lot easier to go to bed early than to work out late in the day.

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    Apr 15, 2007 9:12 PM GMT
    I'm a bit strange this way. (OK, no comments from the peanut gallery). I CAN work out late in the day because I came into weight training from a background as a competitive runner.

    All our races are early in the morning, and I got to hate that 5:30AM segue from bed to running hard a few hours later.

    My body, even when I was younger, always "preferred" running in the afternoon or evening, when I was warmed up and relatively loose.

    Plus, while not attempting to distract this thread into a different direction, distance running, like competitive distance cycling, involves getting used to a moderate level of discomfort for huge time blocks.

    Thus, it was easy for me (in fact, it's really like the "dessert" of fitness training for me) to get into weight training as a cross-training kind of thing. It hurts so much less than distance running (please, I know that it hurts, and I know to be good at it you put in as much effort as any athlete does....but the discomfort peaks and is over so quickly).

    So, to mindgarden, what I would say is (a) have a workout buddy that you have a workout "committment" to; (b) just get used to going to the gym (or running or whatever) at the same time each day, if possible.

    John
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    Apr 16, 2007 5:44 AM GMT
    I workout in the mornings, before work. It gets me in a healthy mind for work, alert and ready to go.

    Another thing I find helps a lot with motivation is to get yourself a training partner. Nothing makes you feel more guilty than letting your buddy down by no-showing for a session.
  • CAtoFL

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    Apr 19, 2007 6:26 PM GMT
    Just an administrative addendum:

    Schedule your workout just as you would schedule any other meeting. And decline to move it unless someone above your position directs you to absolutely do so (and then bitch about it so that he feels he owes you). If your workout is blocked out in your calendar, it'll be much easier to adhere to.

    Also, employers can ask you to - but can't force you to - work during your lunch hour. A co-worker of mine would simply eat a sandwich on his walk around and around our office building. He probably burned more calories than he ingested. It's not ideal, but it's certainly better than eating at your desk.