Holy Squats Batman! New guy feels the burn.

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    Mar 30, 2009 6:38 AM GMT
    Wow I never imagined squats would be so effective or intense I've lost all control of my ass!

    I'm new to working out, I got tired of being a skinny guy so I started with several weeks of push ups and sit ups. From that I rewarded myself with a small dumbbell set and worked with those for several weeks. Now I purchased a weight bench and weightset (thanks craig's list) I've benched a few of times and now I'm moving to the full body workout including squats... wow.. When I go to sit down my leg and aft muscles don't catch me and I just fall into the chair, definitely a new experience for me.

    I'm trying to put it all into this I want to get a nice tone. I'm eating right meeting my protein requirement and trying to hit my calories. I do have a question about calories though I'm struggling to eat enough even with 5 meals a day. I currently only drink water, diet coke, and splenda lemonade. Should I switch these liquids for their sugary counterparts for the calories or would those just be 'emtpy' calories? I'm allergic to nuts(amusing for a gay guy) so that great protein and calorie source is out of the picture.

    Another problem I am running into is that I lift at home and when doing bench press to failure I'm stuck with a very heavy bar on my chest. How do other people here working without a spotter work to failure?
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    Mar 30, 2009 9:12 AM GMT
    you don't have to work to failure, close to it yes but not absolute failure, if you get to a point where you wont make the last rep no matter how hard you push then don't try for it cause it could turn bad
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    Mar 30, 2009 10:48 AM GMT
    About the diet soda. Recently it has been found that diet soda may lead to metabolic syndrome (abdominal obesity, diabetes, hypertension,elevated cholesterol). One can a day can increases the risk by 34%. Some health authorities are recommending against drinking diet sodas but this is not a universal recommendation
    http://www.nytimes.com/2008/02/05/health/nutrition/05symp.html

    You need carbohydrates as fuel for exercising so don't go without them. Carbohydrates can be utilized immediately. That is why endurance athletes use carb loading. Although carb loading is isn't designed for just going to the gym, you might want to read this article from the Mayo Clinic and the importance of carbohydrates in exercise

    http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/carbohydrate-loading/MY00223

    lilTanker is correct about not going to failure unless you have a spotter present. There are stories on the net about lifters being killed during bench pressing. I don't if they are true stories or just urban legends. Once I was doing heavy incline bench presses (I was the only one in the gym) and got stuck . The barbell rolled down my chest abdomen groin (Ugh) and finally to my ankles. It is funny now but was very painful and not funny then icon_lol.gif I was young and foolish then. I have grown a lot wiser

    Good Luck
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    Mar 30, 2009 11:37 AM GMT
    Haha, if you think the day after squats is bad, wait until the day after that... icon_eek.gif
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    Mar 30, 2009 2:16 PM GMT
    A quick note about "struggling to eat." Just stick with it. I used to have a low appetite and would have to kind of force myself to eat enough. You DO get used to it. In fact, you'll be surprised how quickly you become accustomed to eating more frequently. Give it a month or two, gradually increase quantities or frequency until you're hitting your target, and you should be fine.
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    Mar 30, 2009 3:48 PM GMT
    cut out all processed sugar and fake sugar and processed carbs to get ripped
    and healthy. you might even lose those allergies.
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    Mar 30, 2009 3:52 PM GMT
    kneedraggen saidAbout the diet soda. Recently it has been found that diet soda may lead to metabolic syndrome (abdominal obesity, diabetes, hypertension,elevated cholesterol). One can a day can increases the risk by 34%. Some health authorities are recommending against drinking diet sodas but this is not a universal recommendation
    http://www.nytimes.com/2008/02/05/health/nutrition/05symp.html

    Thanks for this article. I thought i was fighting alone on this one. So sad to see 20 y.o's fat and sick....from the killer processed/fake sugar and processed carb deadly duo.
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    Mar 30, 2009 11:45 PM GMT
    Thanks for the information guys.

    For carbs I eat a big bowl of Oatmeal with milk every morning sometimes with eggs. Other meals include Tuna fish on homemade multigrain honey wheat bread. Chicken/Pork/Beef with veggies for dinner. With rice cakes for snacks. Its about 40% protein 40% carbs and 20% fat. I use the nutritional tool at gyminee.com to add up all my foods.


    The diet coke is really just for Captain Morgan and coke which I know is also a no no for muscles. I only drink socially and then Capt'n and coke for me. On the water note I love propel but it also has fake sugars in it. I've never really been able to get excited about plain water thats why I'm currently on splenda lemonade(figured it was healthier then aspertain)



    P.S. my friends are jerks.. when I first started drinking they told me to order a rum n coke, I heard it as a roman coke(they never corrected me)and I went around asking people for a roman coke for a while... grrr..
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    Apr 04, 2009 6:23 PM GMT
    Leaef saidThanks for the information guys.

    For carbs I eat a big bowl of Oatmeal with milk every morning sometimes with eggs. Other meals include Tuna fish on homemade multigrain honey wheat bread. Chicken/Pork/Beef with veggies for dinner. With rice cakes for snacks. Its about 40% protein 40% carbs and 20% fat. I use the nutritional tool at gyminee.com to add up all my foods.


    The diet coke is really just for Captain Morgan and coke which I know is also a no no for muscles. I only drink socially and then Capt'n and coke for me. On the water note I love propel but it also has fake sugars in it. I've never really been able to get excited about plain water thats why I'm currently on splenda lemonade(figured it was healthier then aspertain)



    P.S. my friends are jerks.. when I first started drinking they told me to order a rum n coke, I heard it as a roman coke(they never corrected me)and I went around asking people for a roman coke for a while... grrr..


    Anybody can download the data used for Gyminee, or other sites. It's the USDA SR21 / PCS 21 food database. They have an app you can install on your desktop.

    http://www.ars.usda.gov/services/docs.htm?docid=8964
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    Apr 05, 2009 3:54 AM GMT
    kneedraggen saidAbout the diet soda. Recently it has been found that diet soda may lead to metabolic syndrome (abdominal obesity, diabetes, hypertension,elevated cholesterol). One can a day can increases the risk by 34%. Some health authorities are recommending against drinking diet sodas but this is not a universal recommendation
    http://www.nytimes.com/2008/02/05/health/nutrition/05symp.html

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    Hmm.. That article kinda leaves ya hangin'. I'm gonna take a wild guess and say it's sodium. A lot of diet drinks have a high amount of sodium.
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    Apr 05, 2009 11:03 AM GMT
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    Hmm.. That article kinda leaves ya hangin'. I'm gonna take a wild guess and say it's sodium. A lot of diet drinks have a high amount of sodium.


    The New Times article was in early 2008. According to a more recent article on artificial sweeteners, there are couple of theories of why metabolic syndrome occurs. The first is that the artificial sweeteners stimulate appetite and the second is that hormones are released that cause fat to accumulate. These are studies done on rats and have yet to be proved in humans.
    http://www.examiner.com/x-4737-Seattle-Alternative-Medicine-Examiner~y2009m3d19-What-is-the-link-between-diet-soda-weight-gain-and-diabetes
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    Apr 05, 2009 11:59 AM GMT
    Roman Coke. thats funny and living in Atlanta if anyone from Coke reads this it will be the newest drink in 2010.
    Stick with it. And don't work out to failur alone. I started the same way just working out at home and the higher reps less weight.
    Best of luck. Keep us all posted.
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    Apr 06, 2009 11:05 AM GMT
    I drink between 6 and 18 diet sodas a day. People confuse the info about sodas and diet sodas. My pics tell my story. Diet sodas are fine. Sodas, never.
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    Apr 06, 2009 11:07 AM GMT
    If you do not do squats, bench and deadlift, you are really not working out. Really. Going to the gym and doing curls, ect. Fine. But not working out.
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    Apr 06, 2009 6:46 PM GMT
    Triggerman saidI drink between 6 and 18 diet sodas a day. People confuse the info about sodas and diet sodas. My pics tell my story. Diet sodas are fine. Sodas, never.

    6 - 18? Wow! That seems like a lot. Do you buy soda in bulk at Costco? icon_lol.gif

    I just stick to 1 - 2 cans of Diet Pepsi Max. No problems so far.