Jeez I am getting sick and tired of certain younger guys generalizing the overall "creepiness" of guys over 40. I have read 3 separate posts in the last 2 days referring to us as creeps.
Sometimes I just want to say "get over yourself". We are not all leering and lecherous and waiting to pounce on your hot young bones. In fact, some of us (myself as one) are more attracted to older in shape guys.....not to hurt your ego boi!
don't let the old man creeper get to you.. what he has I make up in enthusiasm, energy, stamina, reckless desire and sexual abandon AND while you where reading this I was sneakily tying you up and now.. I'm going to drag you away.. cause.. I want too
silverfox1 saidJeez I am getting sick and tired of certain younger guys generalizing the overall "creepiness" of guys over 40. I have read 3 separate posts in the last 2 days referring to us as creeps.
Sometimes I just want to say "get over yourself". We are not all leering and lecherous and waiting to pounce on your hot young bones. In fact, some of us (myself as one) are more attracted to older in shape guys.....not to hurt your ego boi!
And this is why I have stopped hotlisting guys under 30.
I'm sure they'll come to their senses as they get older.
I dont compliment younger guys cuz I remember what it was like when I was younger. I dont care how sincere the older guy is, younger guys see them as old men....like a different species...or like they have a disease, AGE. It isnt complimentary to them; it's creepy.
I see the young boys at the college I work at all the time and just think "there's nothing to them!" I want a man with some meat on him. I'll take the mature guys.
I know I'll never look young again, but I can always look good!
All this agism in the gay world and yet, every older gay man I know and the ones on here manage to have tons of sex with younger men. Because older men are so fucking hot.....I think so, but I'll play devil's advocate and say, no. It's because younger men want to be desired, admired....worshipped. The minute an older man is willing to let that twink/stud/beauty know he's the beez-nees, bingo, sex. In most cultures, the elder is revered and respected. I don't think it's any different in our community. The way we express that admiration, however, is a little different.....young gay men don't always express their fascination with the older male, but rather engage in this cat and mouse game. Young men you want it. Older men, you fuckin want it.
silverfox1 saidJeez I am getting sick and tired of certain younger guys generalizing the overall "creepiness" of guys over 40. I have read 3 separate posts in the last 2 days referring to us as creeps.
Sometimes I just want to say "get over yourself". We are not all leering and lecherous and waiting to pounce on your hot young bones. In fact, some of us (myself as one) are more attracted to older in shape guys.....not to hurt your ego boi!
Lord fine.. I'm be serious.. I don't give a shit about age.. its about as important to me as say.. cock size or what colour sock you prefer to wear..
as caslon.. I have flirted with him many times in the past.. Hell I have even flirted with you Mr Silverfox.. just cause you ignored ma arse.. pffffffffft to you
matt45710 saidI see the young boys at the college I work at all the time and just think "there's nothing to them!" I want a man with some meat on him. I'll take the mature guys.
I know I'll never look young again, but I can always look good!
More than just the lack of meat, they have no life experience to make them interesting as people.....pretty, yes.....but not very interesting.
Sometimes I think the unspoken message when I'm called an old creeper is that these young things are flattering themselves that I would want them. And that calling me a creeper will keep me safely at arm's length. Honey, I've got my own 10-foot pole just for that purpose.
I have no sexual or romantic interests in younger guys, so rest easy, your honor will remain intact. My only interest is in men my own age, who are worth more to me than any 2 youngsters. (Although my own partner sometimes threatens to trade me in for a couple of 30-year-olds, so I wonder about him... LOL!)
More than just the lack of meat, they have no life experience to make them interesting as people.....pretty, yes.....but not very interesting.
Yes, I'd agree with that? I want to be able to talk with a guy after we finish and are lying there snuggling. Any 40+ guys up for this now? I'm heading off to bed!
silverfox1 saidIgnore your arse? All this talk of your arse I will be fantasizing about that arse of yours all night long. I am not going to get any sleep at all.
Caslon10000 saidI dont compliment younger guys cuz I remember what it was like when I was younger. I dont care how sincere the older guy is, younger guys see them as old men....like a different species...or like they have a disease, AGE. It isnt complimentary to them; it's creepy.
Now, who's generalizing? I totally lust after older men and am usually repulsed by men under 30. There are few exceptions, but generally I just want a MAN, not a boy - this is for friends and romantic interestes. I think age and experience is something to be respected and admired - I think a man that can teach me something new is SEXY as hell! Don't write off us youngin's too fast, ya old creeps!
tiren saidI want to look like some of you guys when I'm over 40.
...heck, I wouldn't mind looking like a couple of you *now.*
There you go Tiren!
That is what we like to hear! Feed the old men's egos! Now go back out into the forum and bring one hundred other 21 year old boys back to this thread that are just like you!
silverfox1 saidIgnore your arse? All this talk of your arse I will be fantasizing about that arse of yours all night long. I am not going to get any sleep at all.
I can almost picture it.....
CREEPY!
YES you ignored me..
But I am getting used to it..
Everyone ignores me around here..
*stomps off*
Tanker, Don't run off. I'll invite you in. I love a man with big manly thighs and butt. Even if you're younger. You're still in your prime to me.
matt45710 saidI want to be able to talk with a guy after we finish and are lying there snuggling.
Seriously, and to be less harsh than I often sound on this topic, I simply can't relate to much younger men, no more than they can relate to me. As you say, talking with a guy is important to me, too, but what if we have nothing in common to talk about?
I don't understand his generational culture, and he doesn't understand mine. No criticism of him, we're just different, and we have no common references.
A cynic might reply: "What's to reference when you're fucking him?" True, but I don't operate that way, except maybe when I tricked in bathhouses, which I don't do anymore. I do like to talk & snuggle, with someone who understands what I'm saying, and vice versa. I'll stick with my own age group, thank you very much.
I think the guys that generalize it are going a bit far, but i will admit, i seem to be in a category that limits the type of guy that hits on me to the over 40, out of shape crowd... that said, i have nothing against an in-shape guy that knows he is over 40 and all that entails... the biggest turn-off in the over-30 crowd is peter-pan syndrome...
KyleAD said the biggest turn-off in the over-30 crowd is peter-pan syndrome...
I can see that. At the same time, I like older men who stay young in mind, the opposite being rigid old grumps, the way I generally saw old men as I was growing up. But if you mean older men who try to dress and behave about 30 years younger than they really are, that's a big turn-off for me, too.
I think a lot of the 40+ guys here are extremely genuine and great [those who are active on forums]. The only person who just creeped me out was John. He gave that "craigslist" vibe.
lilTanker saidWoooooooooo being over 30 does not a man make..
You tell um Yoda!!
Here's my take on this whole age thing ( and I even have this in my profile). I want to be with someone around my own age. That doesn't mean I'm going to avoid anyone with crow's feet. I have something to learn from everyone. From mentally retarded people, to the crazy elderly people in the homes, to those pretending to be homeless. I spent a lot of my life growing up around adults (lesbians) and not those my own age and I feel it's time to switch it up. However. I'll be friends with anyone if you let me.
Now, with that said, I will not tolerate some "daddy" bargin' in on my convo with some of my peeps thinkin' they're bringin' that. You with your margarita thinkin' your all that with your shirt practically unbuttoned. And then when I call you out for interrupting on something you shouldn't even be a part of, you say the word "bitch" wrong. How the hell do you say a five letter word wrong!? Freakin' travesty.
If a guy over 40 is hot, (most guys on this site fall into this category) then you know they take care of themselves and will be hot for many years to come. But most young guys take bad care of themselves and abuse their body, so when they are 40 they will look like someone crapped on their face. Who knows they might have.
silverfox1 saidJeez I am getting sick and tired of certain younger guys generalizing the overall "creepiness" of guys over 40. I have read 3 separate posts in the last 2 days referring to us as creeps.
Sometimes I just want to say "get over yourself". We are not all leering and lecherous and waiting to pounce on your hot young bones. In fact, some of us (myself as one) are more attracted to older in shape guys.....not to hurt your ego boi!
It doesn't bother me at all. I get more offers from 20 y.o.'s then any other age group! I never hit on them tho.
Elderthlas said...That doesn't mean I'm going to avoid anyone with crow's feet. I have something to learn from everyone. From mentally retarded people, to the crazy elderly people in the homes, to those pretending to be homeless.
Elderthlas said...That doesn't mean I'm going to avoid anyone with crow's feet. I have something to learn from everyone. From mentally retarded people, to the crazy elderly people in the homes, to those pretending to be homeless.
Glad I'm in good company! LMAO!
Crap I need to work on my writing...I luff you Red!! Besides, my youngest sister is MR and she's the best person I know so.
oh gawd this is going to go poorly.. I remember the last senior I tried to help with this stuff.. poor thing got so befuddled..
we have stuff now called TECHNOLOGY.. no not Technowhatsits, turn your hearing aid up sweety.. TECHNOLO oh I give up.. stick with CD's ya old bugger but bend over..
oh gawd this is going to go poorly.. I remember the last senior I tried to help with this stuff.. poor thing got so befuddled..
we have stuff now called TECHNOLOGY.. no not Technowhatsits, turn your hearing aid up sweety.. TECHNOLO oh I give up.. stick with CD's ya old bugger but bend over..
Kinda like getting 'befuddled' from time to time...
Well, I've already been labeled "Creep" at my fine age of dhirty-fwhore... so I put the glam back in it... check out my cover of that Radiohead song... it's the 4th song on my playlist in my profile.
good point silverfox--just keep track of these youngins and check back on 'em in 10 to 20 years (i bet they'll wish they were nicer and more respectful)
He was just on TV last night...Poltergeist II. What an awesomely creepy actor. He played a creepy banker on Miami Vice, one episode. A strangely prescient storyline if I remember correctly.
I just realized that referencing Miami Vice dated me.
mickeytopogigio saidHe was just on TV last night...Poltergeist II. What an awesomely creepy actor. He played a creepy banker on Miami Vice, one episode. A strangely prescient storyline if I remember correctly.
I just realized that referencing Miami Vice dated me.
Yes, you dated yourself alright. Hotshotcdn demands you report to Carousel immediately.
silverfox1 saidJeez I am getting sick and tired of certain younger guys generalizing the overall "creepiness" of guys over 40. I have read 3 separate posts in the last 2 days referring to us as creeps.
Sometimes I just want to say "get over yourself". We are not all leering and lecherous and waiting to pounce on your hot young bones. In fact, some of us (myself as one) are more attracted to older in shape guys.....not to hurt your ego boi!
There you go:
You're good enough. You're smart enough. By golly, folks like you.
mickeytopogigio saidHe was just on TV last night...Poltergeist II. What an awesomely creepy actor.
That was Julian Beck, who was one of the most influential avant-garde theater directors in New York for like 40 years. He and his wife, Judith Malina, ran a group called The Living Theater, which was still functioning when I lived there. Awesomely smart, always on the edge, and a fine actor.
Hi, I'm one of the younger characters here at 25. I never got the Creepy Old Troll (okay maybe I don't understand the term "troll" ) Vibe from anyone here. I have gotten emails from older RJ members, and they were always friendly, but never creepy or even hitting on me. Hmmm... maybe I'm just unattractive.
I don't support the whole Older = Creepy thing. I enjoy talking and learning good things from my elders.
In fact I think in ancient hebrew (maybe) the term Elder meant "Teacher and Friend"
Not so much as a Title of Respect, as just a indicator of where one is in the church priesthood. Kind of how monks are "Brother" such and such.
However I was not refering to it like that, nor making any referance to church. Just expressing my respect to my Teachers and Friends here on RJ very much including ppl over 40.
So although I wont call you "Elder jprichva" for instance, I do want to convery my respect and appreciation for kindness when it's shown to me, which many RJ'ers have reguardless of age.
I am too long winded. Short explination... I was trying to give a compliment where it's due.
I'm over 40 and I like nothing more than to lech and creep all over those poor young, lithe, twentysomethings who take so long to change in front of me in the locker room.
and redhead is so fuckin good with creeping anyone out.. he doesn't need to do a damned thing.. he just sits there and smiles...........................
My friends tell me that I take staying away from younger people to the extreme. But it if for this very exact reason. I'm always concerned that they will think that I'm trying to hit on them. (I have never hit on anyone before.)
I finally have a little white hair coming in on the sides of my head and I don't darken it because it makes me look older. I have always looked younger than I am and I think the white hairs help. I also don't want people to think that I'm trying to be something that I'm not.
HndsmKansan saidI must never see these posts......I've never had anyone reference being "over 40" at all... un in any negative way.
Well, your in a monogamous relationship. If you were single, you would notice it. There is something about that number 40 in the gay community. I will say that I'm in better shape now than when I was in my 30's.
Another thing... what of young guys who flirt with older ones? Is that bad? I have to admit I have flirted with older friends of mine, and give compliments when I see an older guy I would be phisically attracted to. Is this unwelcome?
Personally I don't have anything against anyone of an older age - I think about 75% of my massively extended hot list would be guys over 40?
I guess people that are young and good looking feel entitled to something more than a 40 year old, and therefore find it outrageous that such a being could talk to them. It's a state of mind I don't think anyone benefits from..
I think when your young, you think your twenties will last forever and then you wake up one day and your thirty, with a fresh new young pack of twenty somethings to replace you and start calling you old, middle aged and creepy. You can't be a twenty year old forever, everything has a cycle, but I think we have a few young guys here on RJ that are just arrogant, you have many more who aren't.
Well, your in a monogamous relationship. If you were single, you would notice it. There is something about that number 40 in the gay community. .
I absolutely disagree with this statement. I get "encouraged" by men of all ages, whether I'm in a relationship or not. If I were single, I'd have a choice. I think the assertion is ridiculous.
Though I have been guilty of ageism in the past and I will probably be a jerk again in the future. Can I just say that some of the 40+ men on this site make my wiener ache with lust.
Wish I was forty again. Guys in their forties can be very hot if they take care of themselves. When your getting into your late fifties everything starts falling apart. You can diet and exercise all you want but it is a losing battle I guess i qualify for membership in this elite club.
I didn't come out of denial until I was 45, already 5 years past The Point of No Return. And I knew even then the many negative aspects of being over 40 in the gay world (I'm presently 147 in gay years).
But one of my personal mottos is "Thrive Where I'm Planted" and if mid-40s was where I was, with not a lot I could do to change it, then I'd exploit all the things that mid-40s gay guys can do. I certainly wasn't going to give up and go back into the closet, after having waited far too long. I'd make the best of the situation in which I found myself, like I've always done. After all, what are the options?
So I set about learning gay culture, all about gay guys, studying, observing, with all the planned thoroughness I'd used during my military career. And I quickly saw the behavioral & preferential differences between the gay generations, and decided that my own age group was best for me. Then all I had to do was adapt myself to this new gay world, which I managed almost overnight.
And I discovered, surprise-surprise, that the world (or at least my world at the time in Seattle) was full of men my own age looking for other men their age, too. And ya know what? They were SO grateful! Because most twinks wouldn't have them, and many older men wouldn't either, those who were refusing to accept their own age and still chasing after kids.
So I had the 40s field pretty much to myself, and man, did I have fun! I imposed a "5-up, 5-down" age rule for myself, rarely going outside that range, because I didn't have to, nor much wanted to. Like being in a gay Garden of Eden, all I had to do was go out and pick all the fruit I wanted. And they were all over 40, experienced, reliable, stable guys with infinitely fewer issues & baggage then the kids. Far from being the consolation prize, they were the treasures.
What a great time that was. And when I relocated to the Upper Midwest, I did the same thing all over again. Now I'm settled down once more with a partner, so this is academic for me, plus time has moved on, and even 40s is younger than I would want.
But for guys just turning 40, I say exploit your niche. Yeah, you may not be dating teens and 20-somethings anymore, even creep them out, but you can do something a lot of them can't: appeal to mature treasures like I found for myself. Thrive where you're planted.
tiren saidI want to look like some of you guys when I'm over 40.
...heck, I wouldn't mind looking like a couple of you *now.*
There you go Tiren!
That is what we like to hear! Feed the old men's egos! Now go back out into the forum and bring one hundred other 21 year old boys back to this thread that are just like you!
Ummmmm, what's "40" again? I can't remember any more.....
Now talk about a couple of decades more and I can relate a whole other set of issues!
ETA: I found Silverdaddies.com is a very comfortable and interesting site that caters to "mature" guys, younger admirers, and the attractions between and among both groups -- no creepiness factor inherent at all, you just move on if you don't like what you see and read in the profiles.
Until your at a nude resort with your boyfriend in Palm Springs and find out its senior citizens day where the local rest homes take all their elderly to where ever they want for the day, and they just so happen to choose the jacuzzi and pool right outside your hotel room.....then I think theres nothing to complain about if an older guy happens to click on your profile and view you, especially when half the guys here have a profile pic that screams come and get it.
I must confess though I've found guys over 40,...hell sometimes even 50 sexy, and my partner is 10 years older than I am. I definetly do not agree that younger guys are not experienced though like I saw mentioned above. Both groups seem to have this tendency to point the finger at each other and scoff but seriously....why?
Were all gay men, and having a limited selection set for us in that catagory already, why in the world would we limit ourselves because someones older or younger than you? PFFFFFFFFTTTTTTTTTTTT
It seems to me that the older I have gotten, the more I am getting younger guys interested in me. I know that a lot of young guys would not interested in someone over 40, but a lot of younger guys are only into older guys.
NOT all older guys are creepy! in fact I've noticed a lot are RIPPED as all get out and actually pretty hot. I can only hope I look like that when i hit that age!
The creepiness happens when you get the guys that don't understand "Iam not interested" or that want that "Iam your daddy your my boy" type of deal... I seem to attract all those kind of guys! I swear! I had this one guy ask me if he could just see me naked...he even offered money! TELL me that isn't creepy!
I guess I'll say what EVERYONE knows but won't say....if your hot your hot..if not good luck! But that goes for any age group! And no I am not being conceded here...Iam just stating what everyone knows but won't admit to saying!!
; )
Personally I go for "older" guys.. ranging from 28/30-whatever (depending on the guy). I want someone that has their shit together...like a job...car...etc.! lol
GuysGuyATL saidIt seems to me that the older I have gotten, the more I am getting younger guys interested in me. I know that a lot of young guys would not interested in someone over 40, but a lot of younger guys are only into older guys.
Well just for the record, it isn't just young guys that think you are hot. Your hotness is appreciated by men of all ages.
I like me some older men, oh wait I got one already.
I don't think older guys are creepy, only attitude is creepy. Before I met my man, I was going out this guy who called older men, "Ugh, old." That was a total turnoff to be around someone with a negative outlook.
Plus its fun being with and older gentleman, especially the jokes that my man and I play together. Whenever I visit him, I just say out loud so the neighbors can hear me say, "Oh hello there sir. Yes I am 17 years old!"
LOL. This thread is funny. I guess for my age group I would be considered weird because I actually look forward to getting older. I know that goes against some gay rule somewhere since all the gays I know want to be young forever cling hard to it. LOL.
I say whatever's clever. I don't let something age stop me from going out and experiencing something new with someone even if they are older then me (to a certain extent). The creep factoer of an older person only comes into play (for me anyway) when they become persistant after they are well aware that there is no general interests between us.
THAT creeps me out along with a few other things but I can still be courteous. Truth be told I don't really mind a older person especially if they are well groomed and inshape with rockin' bods. It's something to look forward too and you older guys should be proud of what you have since alot of you look hella good. Kudos to AGE
You would think I am two different people. The contrast in reactions to my profile is astonishing. I find it odd because both my LTR were with older guys and I was 18 when I hooked up with the first. I like the way I look now and to be honest...that is all that matters to me. It is not a matter of ego. I think of how my Dad looked at this age and I look at myself and the difference is startling. The 90s peak of body-awareness and massive gym memberships paid off in many ways. Keeping fit keeps you looking good no matter what your age. If someone of another age bracket doesn't appreciate it...fine...I probably don't go for their age bracket but..it is this ignorant, self-importance that seems to come with being in your 20s and gay these days. I've said it before..in my 20s i was a young hottie but I just didn't think that way. Thus the rewards in all areas of my life (career, good body...good morals...growth) have given me great pleasure in these last few years (I am 43 now). Guys in their 20's today who have 'tunnel-vision' are probably like the guys I knew at the clubs who only lived for the going out and doing Drugs (mid 80s) lifestyle that defined their existence. Either they died or today,they are not looking so good and have jobs and lives that are not representative of what they could have achieved. So...when a young guy calls me 'scary...Ewww...' or other well worded phrases...I shrug. I know who I've had..and what I've done with my life and I'd like to see 1 out of 1000 young gay guys do what I have achieved in my still young life (no ego...just the truth). I am attracted to men in my age group...I am not atrracted to boys and nor do I have a paternal bone in my body Daddy...I hate that term.
I wouldn't think of nor have I ever hit on someone in their 20's or 30's. That would be creepy of me. 40 is the lower limit for me.
Now, if someone who was that young hit on me (and it's never happened in real life - I'm excluding virtual/online hits), I don't know how I'd react to it. Theoretically, it's possible, but I've learned from my experience that how I think I would react to an event that's never happened to me and how I actually do react if it does happen to me, are two very different things.
When I see some young hot guy in the gym, I don't tend to think of him as much more than a 'body'. I don't start thinking of a partner. The only younger guys that I've met that are substantive are online. I've not met one of those in person yet (excluding RJ members I've met).
If someone thought of me as creepy for any reason, why would I want to pursue them, much less even care what they thought.
The insecurities that I do deal with are only those that I can affect and change. Things, such as age, that I have no control over, are irrelevant to me.
I tend to think of 'creepiness' as guys who: 1. Dress with significantly age inappropriate clothes. (I'm not talking about clothes that show off a good physique but rather a style associated with a 16 year old club kid, etc.) 2. Think and act like everyone thinks that they are 15+ years younger than their actual age. 3. Only want to date guys who are at least 15 years younger than them. 4, Act with a level of irresponsibility, ignorance, arrogance that goes with the lack of experience associated with their lost youth.
Naturally in a group of people, there are likes and dislikes for all. However, no one really likes to hear or be considered creepy based on age. Age is what it is, why bother to discriminate. I have always preferred older types, because I related to them emotionally and mentally compared to people my age or younger. When I hit 37, for some reason, the 20's girls and boys started showing much interest, I guess that is when I became aware of myself or something because I do not understand what happened. Naturally it is flattering to have all ages interested in you. Initially, I would not accept offers because I prefer company of my age or older, then I realized that when I was younger, I was in to older people and and they gave me the time of day. So I now I respond accordingly. Still prefer older for intellect and emotional level.
It is ironic, when I was younger people thought I was older by 10+ years because of life experiences and such and I thought that was odd, and now most people think I am 10+ years younger than my age. I am just me.
Many will consider 40+ creepy, yet many do not. I receive IM hits from no less than 6 people on RJ whenever I am on here that are 25 or less in age. I will not engage with anyone 25 or younger if they are sexually interested whatsoever. Also, I do not engage with the twinks, boys boi or the like.
We all discriminate on age and other things, it is just nicer if we keep our preference more kind in nature when writing them.
To all the RJ Jocks over 40 - Happy, Healthy and Good Living to all you out there.
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The only time anyone has referred to me as old was by some young 'conservative' who couldn't stand my liberal opinion, and responded to me using the term grandpa, suggesting that i was 'out of touch' with reality. LOL !!! now thats a twist on the term isn't it. Otherwise most these younger guys have really been great, and have accepted friendlyness just for what it was meant to be coming from me. I've had several 19 to 25 year olds suggest I hotmail them, and I avoid it, because the last think I want is these guys to think I'm after guys younger than my own children, and only 10 years older than my grandson. LOL !!!!!! I have to say though that I really enjoy the antics of the younger guys who work for me from time to time at home or my camp, and the fresh thoughts the youngers bring to discussions on RJ are great, some of my best friends here are under 20, but they know I wouldn't ruin our friendship by any come on to them. Its all good !!!!!! Silverfox, i actually thought you were in your late 20's by your pic, guess I'd better look you up to find out your true age !!! But don't get 'creeped out' when I do just because I'm 55. LOL !!!!
I guess I'll say what EVERYONE knows but won't say....if your hot your hot..if not good luck! But that goes for any age group! And no I am not being conceded here...
I hope not. You should be allowed to decide for yourself whether you want to concede.
I guess I'll say what EVERYONE knows but won't say....if your hot your hot..if not good luck! But that goes for any age group! And no I am not being conceded here...
I hope not. You should be allowed to decide for yourself whether you want to concede.
yeah...."SHOULD" is the key! now go out in the world and find someone that does that! Face it...we're in a generation where looks are primarily everything...(there are a few that aren't about it!) but if you think it doesn't happen your naive!
[quote]Are you over 40? Are you creepy? Come on in!!!! (hey you young guys are invited too!!!)[/quote]
No; Yes; Yay!
Well, i guess thats what being a loner does to people. I hardly even noticed that people are seriously that judgmental about being over a certain age. I don't really see the point, its petty and shows the lack of intelligence among this generation. [Ironic that college is more attainable, yet the population is getting less intelligent. Just look at the movies!]
I guess I'll say what EVERYONE knows but won't say....if your hot your hot..if not good luck! But that goes for any age group! And no I am not being conceded here...
I hope not. You should be allowed to decide for yourself whether you want to concede.
yeah...."SHOULD" is the key! now go out in the world and find someone that does that! Face it...we're in a generation where looks are primarily everything...(there are a few that aren't about it!) but if you think it doesn't happen your naive!
Oh, I fear I've opened a can of worms. I was just joshing you about conceded and conceited. I think you meant the latter.
I know this is exactly the sort of thing about which people get up in arms, but if I were misusing a word, I'd want to know so as not to make the mistake again. I hope you're not offended by what I intended as gentle joshing.
I do very much appreciate that you seem to think I'm part of your generation.
Btw, I didn't think you came off as conceited in your post.
Well, no wonder people are confused. I just clicked on the Which Greek God Are You? quiz on Facebook, and here's the second question:
Which best discribes you? Greedy, Unlucky Imature, Distracted Dominating, Self-Righteous Beautiful, Conceded Competetive, Hot-Tempered Honest, Hard-Working Mature, Nurturing Quick, Shifty
These Facebook quizzes are full of errors of various sorts. Competetive and Imature as well. Do the people who put these together not have spell-check? It wouldn't catch conceded but it would catch the other two.
It's the end of Western Civilization as we know it.
Some of the greatest guys on R.J. are over 40 - or like me - we've even hit 50. 50 is the new 35! How can I make such a bold-face claim? Check it out..... those of us here on R.J. who are over 40, or even 50 for that matter - usually are in far better shape by a long shot than most straight guys who are 35! The proof? All the younger guys who talk to us or hit on us almost every single day! Eat right, work out and you'll be fine at any age. We have to make up our minds to do something fun every single day - have goals - and go after what you want!
silverfox1 saidJeez I am getting sick and tired of certain younger guys generalizing the overall "creepiness" of guys over 40. I have read 3 separate posts in the last 2 days referring to us as creeps.
Sometimes I just want to say "get over yourself". We are not all leering and lecherous and waiting to pounce on your hot young bones. In fact, some of us (myself as one) are more attracted to older in shape guys.....not to hurt your ego boi!
you have to know that there are guys like this though... the ones that exclusivly date young guys. They get creepy with it..... If you're older with someone younger, okay but thats different then being a creeper about it.
What a bunch of garbage. Old and creepy? PLEASE.....
I fuck young guys and I fuck old guys.
I have never had so many young guys hit on me as I have in the last 5 years. I am no one's sugar daddy. I like you, you like me, we fuck. If you are young and look like shit, move on. I like hot guys. Most 21yos look like shit and I would not fuck them with my brother's dick.
Like I would just be so excited because you are 20,21,22. Please. Has anyone actually looked at most 18-25yo? They look like shit. Fat as hell. Playing Game Boys and Wii.....oh yeah, that is what I want. Some fat 21yo that has spent the last few months playing Wii.
So, I am going to get excited about a 21yo in bed? Who has never had sex outside of Wii or his Gameboy?
ActiveAndFit saidImagine a beautiful world without old people wait I saw this movie before ..
Gee i was 13 when I saw this movie and I loved it cause 30 was so far away that it was never going to happen to me...Farah Fawcett even had a bit part...I love futuristic movies like this....thanks for reminding me of seeing..I think a few times...
1) I am in very good shape for any age 2) Being young does not put me in awe of you..quite the opposite 3) I have an amazing proud list of achievments from all the work I put into my talent instead of trying to stay 'young in the dance clubs' as my sole purpose in life... I loved that period...then I added more important things to my path in life...and still went dancing occasionally,too 4) The next guy who says 'Eww" or "He's scary' should know that I won an Emmy and stood on the stage of Radio City at 39 on prime time TV 5)Most important. took care of my Dad when he had Alzheimers a few years back while doing the show at the same time 6)learned fluent French when I turned 40 and changed careers, have a beautiful home which is the reuslt of a LTR that lasted 18 years with a really sexy guy who was a ' VERY Handsome Jewish Doctor to boot! 5) I don't say things..I take action in areas most wont'..when I was in my twenties..I spent every Sat. afternoon helping an elderly woman who was lonely and frail to do her errands and then took her out for a meal..I had joined 'volunteers for seniors' 6) My singing voice is better than it has ever been 7) I went dancing last weekend and took my shirt off and al the young guys in their 20s came up to Mr 'Scary Eww' with lust in their eyes and were asking if they could feel up my chest (I laughed and said no) I was on Broadway at 23
Should I go on...What the fuck has age got to do with anything unless you have nothing else on your plate but your body and age....that is nothing special...we all have or have that...it is what you do with the rest..........
I am a 27 year old from a small midwestern town and my man (the one laying behind me) is 44. Believe me us younger men can be the bigger creep. Neither one of us stalked eachother. Those who say men over 40 are the pricks and before they know it they will be called the freaks. Those are the men who never think that they are going to grow old. Well ya'll can take it from there, you know where I am going.
Most of my close friends are 40+ And they are all in great shape, very handsome and have amazing personality's and wisdom to share.. (Heck most of them are in better shape than a majority of my peers.)
I can understand the compatibility conflict sometimes because of the age difference. But this has never stopped me from dating older guys in the pass or just befriending guys older than me.
They have a lot to share and offer and a lot of time they seem to be more affectionate and patient than my peers.
To be perfectly honest, think you have to be considerate judge the person base on their personality and not their age. I bumped into a lot of creepy younger guys (especially tonight at http://www.realjock.com/reply/474512/a local bar/club) instead of older guys.
Old people are creepy! They smell, they always think they are right. And their driving skills are horrible. Anyone over 30 is old. That's when you start dying. Your body begins to break down. Fun becomes associated with crossword puzzles and community BINGO. And you always hear how they had to walk fifteen miles to get to school.... up hill... both ways--when cars were affordable solely for the super rich.
I'm glad I'll NEVER get old lol
Young people are just intellectual snobs! Just because they have their youth they always think they are right. And their driving skills are horrible. Anyone under 40 is young. That's when you lack true life-skills and maturity. Your body image is the most important thing--solely to get laid. Fun becomes associated with risk taking and technological devices that have no use. Young people do not know how to socialize and continuously pick on the older people in society.
Im 44 and last few years the hot young guys are comin out of the fucking wood work. Bring it! Well unless you're under age 21! I guess I didn't even think guys a lot younger than me would be interested. Wrong haha-- love hot young guys, well with brains and goals... sex-E! ciao men
Its funny how we creepers get all the attention from the young 20 somethings.....but 30s seem to be the lost generation. I guess they are not sure where they stand on the creep-o-meter.
Are there 30 somethings out there that just can't get enough of older 40 creepers? Show yourself now!
Kidding..I would never be after a guy who is 40 though it seems awkward to me for some reason
Do not fret whey....there are plenty of younger guys out there for us....as you can see from the posts here. Many of us creepers prefer to play with men our own age though.....
silverfox1 saidIts funny how we creepers get all the attention from the young 20 somethings.....but 30s seem to be the lost generation. I guess they are not sure where they stand on the creep-o-meter.
Are there 30 somethings out there that just can't get enough of older 40 creepers? Show yourself now!
This fellow makes me weak in the knees. Should point out that he's only 41, but a big part of his appeal is that he looks much more seasoned...
AbFab1 said ETA: I found Silverdaddies.com is a very comfortable and interesting site that caters to "mature" guys, younger admirers, and the attractions between and among both groups -- no creepiness factor inherent at all, you just move on if you don't like what you see and read in the profiles.
This reminded me of a couple I met in Portland on NYE. One was a debonair 70-something. The other, a fine 25 yo fire jumper. They met on silverdaddies.com and apparently it was working for them.
cityguy39 saidI think when your young, you think your twenties will last forever and then you wake up one day and your thirty, with a fresh new young pack of twenty somethings to replace you and start calling you old, middle aged and creepy. You can't be a twenty year old forever, everything has a cycle, but I think we have a few young guys here on RJ that are just arrogant, you have many more who aren't.
Majority of the men I've had crushes on were always older. Some in their 30s, 40s and even 50s. Maybe because they know very well where they came from and aren't afraid to accept changes in their body as they age gracefully. Being secure in who they are is what makes them sexy in my eyes.
silverfox1 saidJeez I am getting sick and tired of certain younger guys generalizing the overall "creepiness" of guys over 40. I have read 3 separate posts in the last 2 days referring to us as creeps.
Sometimes I just want to say "get over yourself". We are not all leering and lecherous and waiting to pounce on your hot young bones. In fact, some of us (myself as one) are more attracted to older in shape guys.....not to hurt your ego boi!
OVER 50....WAIT...YOU THEN BECOME A CREEPY GRANDPA!!!
I actually remember getting hit on 20 years ago by a variety of guys if different ages. Not all the old ones were creepy, but the ones that were made me very uncomfortable. now that I'm 45 I make a diligent effort to "not be that guy"
I remember the first time someone called me SIR. Sadly, it kinda offended me because I felt way too young for that title... Now, some of the co-workers that I hire each year from a resort in Lake Placid to help me at the Masters Golf Tournament have taken to calling me Grampa Sherpa since I am their leader that week. One of the best things about age is getting comfortable with turning a comment into a 'Term of Endearment" Age is something you have zero control over, so you better get used to rolling with it...or it'll roll over your ass like a ton of bricks
As always, it depends on the specifics. Age isn't necessary to be creepy, nor are all older men creepy, but...
I admit that the first night I signed in to gay.com I was 26, and with 5 minutes 3 different men who were older than 60 asked me for measurements on my genitals. I didn't even have a shirtless picture in my profile, let alone anything else. It was...disturbing.
When a guy closer to my own age starts out a "conversation" with something like that, I brush him off as an idiot and worthy of being blocked. I am, however, genuinely more creeped out when it's by a man more than 30 years older than me. I think it's because I have higher expectations that older people should have learned by now what's socially acceptable.
But, for those who think ageism is just against the older...look at some of the responses on this thread. There are a disturbing number of posts generalizing about all younger men and how they're not worthwhile. It happens both ways.
growingbig saidI wish guys around my age or older hit on me.
Yeah me too. Maybe 40 something aren't creepy but they are really tough to date. They will chat u up for ever and never make a commitment. And when you call them on their "shyness" they will string you out again telling how they aren't shy etc...but still no date..CReeepy. i don't know.....Broken, burnt , afraid of commitment ,set in their single ways...... yes...
growingbig saidI wish guys around my age or older hit on me.
Yeah me too. Maybe 40 something aren't creepy but they are really tough to date. They will chat u up for ever and never make a commitment. And when you call them on their "shyness" they will string you out again telling how they aren't shy etc...but still no date..CReeepy. i don't know.....Broken, burnt , afraid of commitment ,set in their single ways...... yes...
Hey..I became single at 40 after 19+ years in a monogamous relationship(okay...one or two slip ups in the beginning..hell..I was still an actor then )
My problem is I am used to someone being aggresive in showing they want to meet me or more what I was used to...seeing me somehwere in person and making the first move...no internet. Now I am the one who is suposse to change my MO because I look like a (hopefully) well-built man in his 'prime ).who looks like I should come on to some guy. I think people take it as aloofness..but I am not going to approach someone.it ain''t going to happen...I am ready to meet and date...but someone has to take the first step...I'd take over from there pretty quick if I knew there was interest and i was interested too..just because I am older doesn't mean you change...if you were fighting a LTR in your 20s...you'll probably have the same issues in your 40's unless you wanted to change....As for me..liked fucking around..loved being in a couple ( when I say couple..I am not conventional..very free...except in being loyal..I don't know..maybe it comes from the era of AIDS )...I am pretty healthy...just need someone to come get me.... I have ADD if you all didn't know so if I don't put in words or don't complete...well..I hope I am readable
Just graduated into the creepy category and the rotary phone has started ringing again.
To the poster who said all 40somethings are shy. Not True. I spent a good amount of time in a relationship. Started pre internet and ended post. Some guys today do not know how to socialize in public. In my 20's I met guys on the street, in bars, at the gym... everywhere. Now trying to get a guy to return a simple hello is work.
I know what you are talking about Westport. It is a very rare occasion that I will actually go up to someone and hit on them. I'll talk to them sure but actually hitting on them is a different animal.
growingbig saidI know what you are talking about Westport. It is a very rare occasion that I will actually go up to someone and hit on them. I'll talk to them sure but actually hitting on them is a different animal.
I have a rule not to hit on anyone younger than me to avoid being considered creepy by guys that only like their age group or younger... ....so that is a problem since there are virtually no guys in shape at my age. . I graciously respond to younger guys that show interest in me.
I think it's the same with straight guys. The old creepy guy who drools over younger females. I know, my Dad's one....hehe Myself.... I like younger guys but, i don't let it be obnoxiously obvious.
Jockbod48 saidSome of the greatest guys on R.J. are over 40 - or like me - we've even hit 50. 50 is the new 35! How can I make such a bold-face claim? Check it out..... those of us here on R.J. who are over 40, or even 50 for that matter - usually are in far better shape by a long shot than most straight guys who are 35! The proof? All the younger guys who talk to us or hit on us almost every single day! Eat right, work out and you'll be fine at any age. We have to make up our minds to do something fun every single day - have goals - and go after what you want!
So true. I only date older guys because they are the only ones you can depend on. Some of the hottest guys on RJ are over 40, or even over 50. Case in point, CuriousJock
The subject matter is Creepy if you ask me! "Creepy" has NO age discrimination.
Ive had guys older than I hit on me, I know what its like. We all do. Some are "creepy". Its not a look, its the attitude. If you think your going to turn me on by looking in my urinal making comments... NOT.
Ive had younger who are "creepy" too. Being creepy is about the look, the attitude, the approach, the conversation.
Do I prefer younger guys? Shit yes. Why? Cause the majority of guys my age act and look old. Would I date my age? Yes, Id prefer it, but many either look old, act old or are "Creepy" LOL!!
Listen, I should slap myself for even participating in this subject. Anyone in my age group or older, including the original blogger, should steer clear from this subject .Thats creepy!
Younger guys keep me young. Interested in me? Awesome! If your not, thats cool too! When I had my first serious relationship with a much younger guy, I was concerned about my daughter and her reaction. She said to me "Dad... you look young, you act young... go for it!"
lilTanker saidWoooooooooo being over 30 does not a man make..
You tell um Yoda!!
Here's my take on this whole age thing ( and I even have this in my profile). I want to be with someone around my own age. That doesn't mean I'm going to avoid anyone with crow's feet. I have something to learn from everyone. From mentally retarded people, to the crazy elderly people in the homes, to those pretending to be homeless. . .
OMG. Did he just compare over 40 to mentally retarded, crazy and homeless? Damn, that's harsh!
"Yeah me too. Maybe 40 something aren't creepy but they are really tough to date. They will chat u up for ever and never make a commitment. And when you call them on their "shyness" they will string you out again telling how they aren't shy etc...but still no date..CReeepy. i don't know.....Broken, burnt , afraid of commitment ,set in their single ways...... yes... "[/quote]
Hmmm, I must break the mold, or I'd better hurry up and get shy, stop dating or get set in my ways! Cmon bub, you're not that jaded are you? Now I do like going to the club Saturday's to hang with my pals and order usually the same drink. Am I set in my ways?! Maybe I just don't know, I date pretty much only guys mid 30s and younger.
LuvMuscle99 saidThe subject matter is Creepy if you ask me! "Creepy" has NO age discrimination.
Some younger guys can be creepy at times too, they just aren't old enough to know it yet.
I always warn the guys I've dated, when in a comfortable conversation, that they shouldn't be as easy to jump in to things with other guys as they have with me. Example: Inviting a younger guy straight to your house for the first date, or whatever for the ones in to NSA. I've dated guys who had boys that burned down their house, killed their pet, stolen everything (typical hustler), and all of that when the older guys didn't return their call!!!!! While there are sane guys out there like me, there are plenty of immature nutso brats to be had. The lesson: while age is rarely parallel to maturity on both ends, always keep a bit of privacy in the beginning. Oh, and return our FUCKING CALLS you Chicken Shits! LOL!
Generally the creepy gay men I've met are those who've gone off their meds... I used to run a gay men's coffeehouse and we got creepy, disturbed men of all races, ages, looks and sizes who attended... we had one attractive, muscle guy who went around accusing every one of sexually harassing him (let me tell you after he complained about the 3rd guy who was supposedly bothering him - NO ONE would go near the man, hot or not hot! He still complained
Creepiness is a state of mind... or perhaps it is homophobia that warps some guys' minds.
underbearboy saidGenerally the creepy gay men I've met are those who've gone off their meds... I used to run a gay men's coffeehouse and we got creepy, disturbed men of all races, ages, looks and sizes who attended... we had one attractive, muscle guy who went around accusing every one of sexually harassing him (let me tell you after he complained about the 3rd guy who was supposedly bothering him - NO ONE would go near the man, hot or not hot! He still complained
Creepiness is a state of mind... or perhaps it is homophobia that warps some guys' minds.
I just had a rather nasty incident with Fever25 that is very pertinent to this thread
I must be incredibly creepy and gross as to cause such a visceral nasty retort in a simple thread where 'Feverman' could have just said pass. It ia confusing when you receive Emails from great guys in their 20s,30s and my age 40s, who either just like you for what you write even if you are not their type or think you are hot...and certainly I've had a surprising number of guys in their 20s want to meet me which is something..I am weakening on still...there will always be that element that has to go beyond what is fun and can hurt someone's feelings big time by calling me 'Gross...yuck...get out of here'. Now...I may not be the 40's version of Daniel Craig but it is a fair assumption to say that I am a type who many fine sexy..and if you like my type....Great. If you don't... fine. Say something funny or pass.... don't act like a nasty queen because all you know about me is my age and you feel that being 25 gives you some right to be an asshole. I reiterate that I was never like that art that age even though I was a little hottie myself. Of course he provoked me and nobody can pierce the most vulnerable part of someone than me...a talent I hardly use....these email threads are always dangerous when you have someone less than intelligent because they can't see the person. Sorry for typos! ADD Ken
Well you can be creepy all over me anytime westport... :-) Seeing that guy's profile kinda tells me of youthful indifference and inexperience... Sad in todays younger generations... SHIT I'm an old creepy guy............
Attitude is what makes an older gay guy creepy....and the creepiness manifests itself in the following ways:
always drunk no tact whatsoever in staring, gawking and looking at someone nice looking. being vulgar with constant references to sex, male body parts. always calling other gay men "she" a bitchy sound in the voice...loud but not courageous and a general whining disposition. wearing leather when it doesn't look good. trying to hard to be macho (insecurity)...possibly all roided out with bad skin to go along with it. an attitude that connects everything in life with a gay reference or situation (ghetto mentality) posture...and walking around with the mouth open all the time and squinting the eyes an inability to appreciate younger culture....music, art, film and new ideas
But then again, anyone under 40 can be the same way...........
I join this thread in solidarity with the 40+ year olds! In other threads I've tended to support the older crowd. One reason is that I fell madly in love with a 44 year old when I was 18, so I have a unique and more clear perspective than most other young guys. I don't find older men creepy. In fact, I'm humbled if one shows an interest in me. We are all attracted to certain types, so if the look that I've got going floats your boat, then horrah!
torontoguy2222 saidI join this thread in solidarity with the 40+ year olds! In other threads I've tended to support the older crowd. One reason is that I fell madly in love with a 44 year old when I was 18, so I have a unique and more clear perspective than most other young guys. I don't find older men creepy. In fact, I'm humbled if one shows an interest in me. We are all attracted to certain types, so if the look that I've got going floats your boat, then horrah!
Anne, with that hat, you should be humbled if anyone shows you an interest in you. ...
torontoguy2222 saidI join this thread in solidarity with the 40+ year olds! In other threads I've tended to support the older crowd. One reason is that I fell madly in love with a 44 year old when I was 18, so I have a unique and more clear perspective than most other young guys. I don't find older men creepy. In fact, I'm humbled if one shows an interest in me. We are all attracted to certain types, so if the look that I've got going floats your boat, then horrah!
Anne, with that hat, you should be humbled if anyone shows you an interest in you. ...
LMAO do people honestly hate the Anne-of-Green-Gables-esque hat?? I thought it was fun, haha. Maybe I'll have to change my main display pic though :p. You're not the first one to point it out lol
I've met some guys in there 20's and 30's who are creepy. Considering the only guys that seem to want to date me are under 24, I dont' consider myself creepy... yet.
Sorry Tank,,, you'll have to yank him outta my arms first... That should be an interesting fight. Of course if he wants to go, I'll take it on the chin... please Ben, aim well.
For flings I tend to meet younger guys...for dating / relationships its definitley older guys. The only problem at 47 is that more and more of the older guys are no longer with us ..or the more you get older..the more younger guys are out there to take the place of the older ones. Each age has the attractiveness ..advantages and disadvantages. If the chemistry and attraction ( physical and mental ) it doesnt really matter to me..to a point anyway lol
TheGuyNextDoor saidSorry Tank,,, you'll have to yank him outta my arms first... That should be an interesting fight. Of course if he wants to go, I'll take it on the chin... please Ben, aim well.
TheGuyNextDoor saidSorry Tank,,, you'll have to yank him outta my arms first... That should be an interesting fight. Of course if he wants to go, I'll take it on the chin... please Ben, aim well.
TheGuyNextDoor saidSorry Tank,,, you'll have to yank him outta my arms first... That should be an interesting fight. Of course if he wants to go, I'll take it on the chin... please Ben, aim well.
Oh.. well.. if thats the case..
*slips inbetween TGND and Wolfy*
I can handle you both ;)
MMM, now you're talkin' Ben. I know I'm UP for it...
hey, there's a movie they haven't remade yet, "logans run". only back when that movie was made, 35 ( the end of days ) was considered young, these days, if they made the movie over, they'd have to change the age to what...24...?
silverfox1 saidJeez I am getting sick and tired of certain younger guys generalizing the overall "creepiness" of guys over 40. I have read 3 separate posts in the last 2 days referring to us as creeps.
Sometimes I just want to say "get over yourself". We are not all leering and lecherous and waiting to pounce on your hot young bones. In fact, some of us (myself as one) are more attracted to older in shape guys.....not to hurt your ego boi!
Why does it bother you? We're all generalized negatively in some way, you're no different. These types of threads seem to be second in number only to the sill "guy above you" threads that actively and openly get complained about as well.
I can also add that the less you react to us assuming we're judging you, and the less you'll be judged. Just be yourself and be confident in it, don't be second guessing what we think about you and you should be fine. If you're judged wrongly then let the boy go, he isn't worth your time yet, he still has some growing up and life experiences to go through probably.
silverfox1 saidJeez I am getting sick and tired of certain younger guys generalizing the overall "creepiness" of guys over 40. I have read 3 separate posts in the last 2 days referring to us as creeps.
Sometimes I just want to say "get over yourself". We are not all leering and lecherous and waiting to pounce on your hot young bones. In fact, some of us (myself as one) are more attracted to older in shape guys.....not to hurt your ego boi!
Why does it bother you? We're all generalized negatively in some way, you're no different. These types of threads seem to be second in number only to the sill "guy above you" threads that actively and openly get complained about as well.
I can also add that the less you react to us assuming we're judging you, and the less you'll be judged. Just be yourself and be confident in it, don't be second guessing what we think about you and you should be fine. If you're judged wrongly then let the boy go, he isn't worth your time yet, he still has some growing up and life experiences to go through probably.
Well to your points, this thread was resurrected from the past somehow....and it was created during a couple of days when there was a lot flying around the forums negatively regarding older guys, However, I don't spend a lot of time sitting around wondering if a younger guy is judging me. In fact, not to generalize, but when you read the posts here you will see that many of the guys here don't seem to be sitting around and wondering if younger guys are judging them either. I get plenty of attention from many guys under 25, and many of the older guys here seem to as well. Also it has nothing to do with lack of confidence, and if you really read into this thread....it was done kind of tongue and cheek.
Thus thie invite for younger guys to participate as well
I have a couple of friends in the States who are over 40, well educated, very handsome and have great bods. Yet they tell me due to their age they're written off by other gay men both younger and their own age.
But when one of them came to visit in London during Pride, the local guys, both younger and older, were hanging off him.
It's funny how attitudes differ. I've been told a couple of times that I won't be serious dating material until my early to mid 30s.
Perhaps some of you guys should come over and visit
A little bit off topic, but, my close friends and I who are all about the same age talk about turning 40. I'm there in 2 weeks or so, and, I'm looking forward to it. Been joking about being qualified as a Daddy for two years, and joking about being forty to make a much lesser big deal about it. So, yeah, now I'm ready. I'm excited to think that the 40s can be even better than my 30s.
As far as the creepy question....I'm thinking that older men get called creepy for no reason other than age by some younger snots, and that this will happen no matter what the situation is. There's no way to change this attitude or mindset in most. Rather, let's celebrate who doesn't give a shit about age!
silverfox1 saidJeez I am getting sick and tired of certain younger guys generalizing the overall "creepiness" of guys over 40. I have read 3 separate posts in the last 2 days referring to us as creeps.
Sometimes I just want to say "get over yourself". We are not all leering and lecherous and waiting to pounce on your hot young bones. In fact, some of us (myself as one) are more attracted to older in shape guys.....not to hurt your ego boi!
i just have to say it really doesn't matter the age i was 17 he was 43 when i had my first intercourse one of the best experience in my life
I always use the term " Ruggedly Handsome" when describing in shape guys who are over 40.
Matthew Fox (Lost) and Matthew Mcconaughey are good examples. I look (lust) at those two and say DAMN!
Give me a face with some character (laugh lines-weathered face-scruff).
I have a strait brother in his 20's, so anyone around that age would be creepy for me to approach for a romp.
(Steps on SoapBox) Could all my well spoken, gay, 20 year olds please tell their strait guy friends to quit mumbling. It's like they can't get more than two words out of their mouth!
(Shit- i just sounded like a old man there-Speak Up Sonny!!!)
I'm 41 and I love every minute of it. Im probably close to the best shape of my life... well close not quite there yet. I never even entertained the thought of a younger guy then I came here and started getting the random emails/IM's from guys half my age. I often ask them why they are initiating contact with a guy double their age. They often cannot answer the question.
The verdict is in - I just do not have anything in common with most of these folks. Nice to talk to but so far that is where it stops. We are in two very different developmental phases of our lives. I have little if any regret over the earlier years of my life so I see no reason to vicariously relive them by developing a relationship with a younger guy.
ShawnF saidif old men arent creepers, why dont you talk to more men your age? no need to hit up the nursery.
im pretty new to this site but almost all mail i get from anyone like 35+ is very sexual, and usually doesnt even warrant a reply.
some of you may be nice guys, but i havent met many.. creepers
Interesting, but most of the mail I get is from 20 somethings. I guess it works both ways. Don't let it creep you out though. Wait till you stop getting any mail at all -- now THAT is creepy.
I find that the non creepy older guys are afraid to approach or even say hello to younger guys, for fear of being labeled as creepy. And vice versa. Such a shame. Lots of quality guys out there that are of different age groups.
xrichx saidI find that the non creepy older guys are afraid to approach or even say hello to younger guys, for fear of being labeled as creepy. And vice versa. Such a shame. Lots of quality guys out there that are of different age groups.
Yes, the obnoxious ones like to do that!
I still wonder how do you define "creepy" ?
A simple hello, a compliment or anything coming from some you think is "hot" is fine, but if they are not "hot" it creeps you out ?
Over 40 yep thats me! an I like it!! I could careless if you think I'm a creeper! I am who I am and If you don't like it F**k off ha ha I don't hit on boys they hit on me! all the mail I get is from 18,19,20,21,22 year olds thats 80% the rest are 30 40 + I'm good with myself an like where I'm at want to chill sometime ha ha hit me up!
TheGuyNextDoor saidSorry Tank,,, you'll have to yank him outta my arms first... That should be an interesting fight. Of course if he wants to go, I'll take it on the chin... please Ben, aim well.
Oh.. well.. if thats the case..
*slips inbetween TGND and Wolfy*
I can handle you both ;)
LOL did I just start a little bit of trouble...How about I just sit back and watch you guys wrestle. Mmmmm yes that's exactly what I will do.
FireCrotch saidnothing sexier than a handsome, in-shape 40+ guy. throw in some S&P hair...swoon!
Yeah definitely agree.
However It doesn't matter if the guy is in his 20's 30s' or 40s, if they look like take care of themselves, stay active and has a great personality I'm there LOL,
My only problem is I keep meeting guys who are afraid to date someone 10 - 20 yrs younger. They say I'm mature but that I'm still too young for them, It's not like I'm 19 or 22.
My opinion is, creepy is the ATTITUDE, not the age. Plenty of creeps in all age groups. Equally there are many nice men in all age groups. Creepy is as creepy does. Callum
I mean, just look at some of these hot guys in their 40's and 50's on this site!
40 is the new 30.
30 is the new 20.
20 is the new 10. Oh, God...that makes me a Pedophile.
Oh, by the way, it looks like SOMEONE forgot to block me. Well, that's okay. I was going to show you my penis, but because you were so mean to me, forget it. Well, maybe you can touch it, but that's it. And, maybe we can J.O. together, but only back-to-back.
mikes39 saidI mean, just look at some of these hot guys in their 40's and 50's on this site!
40 is the new 30.
30 is the new 20.
20 is the new 10. Oh, God...that makes me a Pedophile.
Oh, by the way, it looks like SOMEONE forgot to block me. Well, that's okay. I was going to show you my penis, but because you were so mean to me, forget it. Well, maybe you can touch it, but that's it. And, maybe we can J.O. together, but only back-to-back.
What a creep. He must have been old, like at least 40.
I think 'creepy' older men are more or less those who don't accept that they're getting older. Like that dude who's the head of A&F, I forget his name.
It's not even about being a finite age; it's about saying that MAYBE when you hit 30 the tight tank-top that was cute and, lets face it, stupid, in your 20's is a little less age-appropriate now. Even if you could pull it off, even if you have the body of a God, why would you want to dress like someone in their 20's?
I realize age-appropriate dress is kind of a fine-line but everyone knows that one creeper with orange-tan skin and an A&F T-shirt hitting on the 19 yr olds at the bar: it's instantaneously recognizable and it's creepy.
OK, I remember being in my twenties and not wanting to go near anyone over 30. What an idiot I was. Yikes, now I'm always meeting guys in their 20's that want me! That's something new that I had no clue was coming. Not like I have money either.
I am 24, and it bothers me to hear guys my age put down older guys like that. Especially when most of the time it has nothing to do with how the man is acting! Come on fellas! Everyone, if they're lucky, will live into their 40's and 50's and beyond. Don't you guys want to look back and wish you'd treated everyone with respect?
I'm creepy to the 20somethings in my school. At first they all thought I was their age. Until I had to drop the real age bomb. They're cool with me but now there's respectable distance with some of them. People sometimes give me this look as if I were intentionly trying to deceive them when I reveal my age.
What is the big deal about age? If you don't know and the dude is hot and attractive, why care?
red_series saidI think 'creepy' older men are more or less those who don't accept that they're getting older. Like that dude who's the head of A&F, I forget his name.
It's not even about being a finite age; it's about saying that MAYBE when you hit 30 the tight tank-top that was cute and, lets face it, stupid, in your 20's is a little less age-appropriate now. Even if you could pull it off, even if you have the body of a God, why would you want to dress like someone in their 20's?
I realize age-appropriate dress is kind of a fine-line but everyone knows that one creeper with orange-tan skin and an A&F T-shirt hitting on the 19 yr olds at the bar: it's instantaneously recognizable and it's creepy.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm "older" and I think you got this one right !!!! At my age of 56 I am accepted by the 'younger' guys much more than not, but what they comment about liking is that I don't try to be anything other than what I am !! An older man, a dad, and a grandad. At every age range we arrive at in this path of life, we are necessary, but we cannot fulfill our positions that age calls on us to perform if we don't act our age.
Don't think its right to generalize that guys over 40 get creepy, I know for sure some of whom I would lovve to do stuff with Gerard Butler, Tom Cruise(High School Crush), Keanu Reeves and many more.
But on a serious note, there are certain guys who start tormenting and chasing you, which kind of creeps me out. The other day a guy on some site was sending emails, even after I told him am not interested repeatedly. Everytime I was online he would send a message and it was getting weird. Good that we have block feature. But again not everyone is like that, have some nice over 40 guys as friends and they are extremely wonderful guys.
I must agree. I can't get down with people my age, younger, or around my age. Love some nice mature older men. Don't let these prissy boys get you all upset.
Guy101 saidThere's a big difference between just being old and being old AND creepy.
This isn't a creepy site, we're a friggin tea party compared to Manhunt - where I've seen creeps of EVERY age. Anyway, I don't want to creep any of the "kids" out - so I'm pretty picky about who I view........
Can't we have a lecherous, creepy, leering emoticon? Then we can send pictures of our decreped nekked bodys to the kids and they will know for sure it's from a Rabid old fart.
hehehe......I've got some candy here in the bushes little boy........
20 somethings have grown up watching Jurassic Park and collecting dinosaur figurines. Some have kept an interest in old wrinkled things of reptilian allure.
For now, I have not been called creepy. Maybe its because I don't ever pursue young guys for sex. I have however slept with a few that have pursued me. One 20 yo I even asked to see his ID when he got to my place, DAYUM he is cute as hell.
I know some guys my age (47) and older and all they do is chase young dick. They are honestly missing out on some really quality middle aged guys because of their pursuit of the ultimate boi toy.
I am not knocking these older guys at all. Go for it. I know for myself, that these cute young guys are just a trick. We are both adults and enjoying each other and Im okay with that. I am still trying to understand the psychology of it all. (Note to self- Have 20 yo Juan stop calling me Papi, now that is creepy) But for me when I get ready for a relationship it will be with someone closer to my age that I have things in common with.
silverfox1 said Sometimes I just want to say "get over yourself". We are not all leering and lecherous and waiting to pounce on your hot young bones. In fact, some of us (myself as one) are more attracted to older in shape guys.....not to hurt your ego boi!
Yes but most men over 40 are leering and lecherous. But having said that most gay guys are creepy to me in general. So it's not really age-restrictive in my book.
silverfox1 said Sometimes I just want to say "get over yourself". We are not all leering and lecherous and waiting to pounce on your hot young bones. In fact, some of us (myself as one) are more attracted to older in shape guys.....not to hurt your ego boi!
Yes but most men over 40 are leering and lecherous. But having said that most gay guys are creepy to me in general. So it's not really age-restrictive in my book.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> JakeBenson--whachoo talkinbout !!!! LOL --- I remember you as a pretty good guy and now you a gonna go an say we's over 40 are leering and lechorous. I'd be shamed were I you !!! Ha !!! surely you jest JakeBenson !!!!
Guys over 40 are mostly damn fine - from what I see with friends and everywhere I go. When you get to be my age & have had your fun meeting a lot of the male population, you become a connoisseur of men. The best guys are not necessarily the younger guys - but often they are the older more seasoned guys. For example, the hottest guy with everything going for him with respect to brains, personality, looks, humor, integrity, endurance and the best recuperative powers I've ever seen in my whole life happens to be 52. (Just guess who I'm referring to.) Younger guys have a lot going for them - - - but a hot older guy can rock your world!
Rujock saidI am turning the 40 on Friday, can someone give me some pointers on how to be creepy and lecherous. I want to join the club
Happy Birthday. I am 43 and would be happy to give you some advice on joining the 40+ crowd, but not tonight. I'm too busy. I have to go to the sporting goods store to buy some tennis balls. Not to play to tennis, of course, but to put on the bottom of my walker.
Rujock saidI am turning the 40 on Friday, can someone give me some pointers on how to be creepy and lecherous. I want to join the club
Everybody needs LIFE ALERT - now that you will be constantly falling and unable to get up. And on a personal note - If you go out clubbing DON'T bring your walker or cane...............
Start being creepy and lecherous by sending endless pix of your ragged old penis (include your sagging beer gut) to all the young guys on the site - but especially to the ones who mention age in thier profiles - Also post some adult pic in your hernia brace (girdle?) - some of the "Kids" seem to love sexy underpants
xassantex said20 somethings have grown up watching Jurassic Park and collecting dinosaur figurines. Some have kept an interest in old wrinkled things of reptilian allure.
soulman1969 saidYes, 20 somethings, even 30 somethings are lovely to look at. But unfortunately, the ones I've met are dreadfully dull.
One time I was discussing music with 26 year old, and brought up the group Crowded House. His response: "is that some kind of 80's band?"
Lord, how I wanted to bitch slap him.
So is it some kind of 80's band?
You have to realize that making references to things way before our time would be like someone quoting movie lines from the 1950's and then wanting to bitch slap you for not knowing about the greatness of something you've never experienced.
soulman1969 saidYes, 20 somethings, even 30 somethings are lovely to look at. But unfortunately, the ones I've met are dreadfully dull.
One time I was discussing music with 26 year old, and brought up the group Crowded House. His response: "is that some kind of 80's band?"
Lord, how I wanted to bitch slap him.
So is it some kind of 80's band?
You have to realize that making references to things way before our time would be like someone quoting movie lines from the 1950's and then wanting to bitch slap you for not knowing about the greatness of something you've never experienced.
Touché!
Now why can't most 20 somethings be as witty and charming as you?
soulman1969 saidYes, 20 somethings, even 30 somethings are lovely to look at. But unfortunately, the ones I've met are dreadfully dull.
One time I was discussing music with 26 year old, and brought up the group Crowded House. His response: "is that some kind of 80's band?"
Lord, how I wanted to bitch slap him.
So is it some kind of 80's band?
You have to realize that making references to things way before our time would be like someone quoting movie lines from the 1950's and then wanting to bitch slap you for not knowing about the greatness of something you've never experienced.
Touché!
Now why can't most 20 somethings be as witty and charming as you?
It is my personal opinion that a lot of people in there 20's, 30's, 40's and beyond lack enough life experience to understand that most of us have been through the same trials or will soon face them in our own lives.
You know, I have to say that I am very happy to be over 40...and don't mind saying it. I am happy that I look better in my 40's than I did in my 20's-30's...but it has taken a lot of hard work.
I think that there are some who just cannot imagine being with someone older because they think of their parents, and that is understandable. However, I found that after I hit 40 that there were a lot of guys in their 20's interested.
So, I guess in the long run you win some and you lose some...and as a friend always tells me "that's why Baskin Robbins has 32 flavors".