Gay marriage in Iowa!!!

  • Sparkycat

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    Apr 03, 2009 3:11 PM GMT
    Believe it or not, the ban on gay marriage in Iowa has been declared unconstitutional. Here's a quote from the local paper :

    “We have a constitutional duty to ensure equal protection of the law. Faithfulness to that duty requires us to hold Iowa's marriage statute ... violates the Iowa Constitution. To decide otherwise would be an abdication of our constitutional duty,” the court wrote in its decision.

    Court rules dictate that it will take about 21 days for the ruling to be considered final and a request for a rehearing could be filed within that period. That means it will be at least several weeks before gay and lesbian couples can seek marriage licenses."

    So now the religulous right will begin the gnashing of teeth and wringing of hands, and try to have another hearing to have the ruling overturned. But, this is big progress.

    So, I'm in Iowa. Anyone want to marry me in 21 days just because we can?
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    Apr 03, 2009 6:40 PM GMT
    This is fantastic. I must admit I am really surprised. I don't think I've ever even heard "Iowa" and "Gay" in the same sentence, ever, let alone "Iowa" and "Gay Marriage". I'm wondering if I have any talent as a farmer, now. California should be embarrassed. Bring on the corn fed beauties!
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    Apr 03, 2009 7:08 PM GMT
    good news
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    Apr 03, 2009 7:18 PM GMT
    Huzzah!
  • styrgan

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    Apr 03, 2009 7:30 PM GMT
    I can't help but feel muted about this. This is just another chance to see a repeat of the Prop 8 fiasco.
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    Apr 03, 2009 7:32 PM GMT
    styrgan saidI can't help but feel muted about this. This is just another chance to see a repeat of the Prop 8 fiasco.


    Not possible, read the posts @ http://www.realjock.com/gayforums/477244/
  • metta

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    Apr 03, 2009 7:51 PM GMT

    [quote][cite]The Iowa Supreme Court this morning unanimously upheld gays’ right to marry.

    “The Iowa statute limiting civil marriage to a union between a man and a woman violates the equal protection clause of the Iowa Constitution,” the justices said in a summary of their decision.

    The court rules that gay marriage would be legal in three weeks, starting April 24.[/quote]

    http://www.desmoinesregister.com/article/20090403/NEWS/90403010



  • styrgan

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    Apr 03, 2009 8:03 PM GMT
    warrior_poet63 said
    styrgan saidI can't help but feel muted about this. This is just another chance to see a repeat of the Prop 8 fiasco.


    Not possible, read the posts @ http://www.realjock.com/gayforums/477244/


    You're right. I was imprecise. I did not mean the actual procedural attempt to overturn gay marriage. But simply that the Christian right will use the democratic process against us.

    There were a few close calls in Massachusetts in the first three or so years. Attempts to amend the constitution only became irrelevant after public opinion was in the affirmative for gay marriage.

    I'm holding my breath this time around.
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    Apr 03, 2009 9:02 PM GMT
    Hold your breath until they start fighting. Then use it to speak words of truth to counter the bigots.

    This is great news! The lesbians and I have been totally psyched about it all day at work, and we're going out tonight to celebrate icon_biggrin.gif.

    I'm seriously considering moving to Council Bluffs, which is basically Omaha spilled into Iowa. Another benefit? The bars are open an hour later icon_smile.gif
  • RITS

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    Apr 03, 2009 9:12 PM GMT
    Well IF Iowa can do it I hope it will help my state of Minnesota. Were just right above them so that's always good news
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    Apr 03, 2009 9:31 PM GMT
    well, i'm dissenting...i'm disappointed.
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    Apr 03, 2009 10:10 PM GMT
    RITS067 saidWell IF Iowa can do it I hope it will help my state of Minnesota. Were just right above them so that's always good news


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  • GQjock

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    Apr 03, 2009 10:11 PM GMT
    Wow .... that's gonna make me look at corn on the Cob in a whole new way icon_biggrin.gif
  • t0theheights

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    Apr 03, 2009 10:18 PM GMT
    AF24 saidwell, i'm dissenting...i'm disappointed.


    Gotta love self-hating gays who vote against their own best interests and civil rights... and by "love," I mean feel sorry for them and what heterosexism and repression has done to their lives.

    This is awesome news!! One more state down in the march to equality. And we're on the verge in Vermont, New Hampshire, New York, and California--all of those states will see gay marriage by 2012 almost for sure. It's nice to see the moral arc of the universe is finally bending toward justice and equality.
  • DCEric

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    Apr 03, 2009 10:21 PM GMT
    This may have an interesting impact on what is happening in Vermont now, not to mention Illinois.
  • Puppy80

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    Apr 03, 2009 10:21 PM GMT
    Suddenly I've very proud to be an Iowa born Gay boy
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    Apr 03, 2009 10:52 PM GMT
    Why can't Georgia be so open-minded? Or Colorado, I always wanted to move there to put equal distance between all my family members, but I hear Colorado is against it as well. At least now there is somewhere other than New England as an option to move to, hehe icon_cool.gif
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    Apr 04, 2009 2:15 AM GMT
    I don't care for all this IA knocking -- you guys make it sound like some podunk state in the middle of nowhere (middle of NW, maybe). Iowa is a great state and it wasn't some mishap that gay marriage passed (or a fluke)... Maybe some prejudices of the state should be dropped before stereotypes are introduced to this conversation. Unless you're from one of the other states that has legalized SSM, I don't see why you have any room to knock one of the most reasonable and fair states in the country.

    Btw, I grew up on corn and love it.
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    Apr 04, 2009 2:17 AM GMT
    3 down, 47 to go icon_eek.gif
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    Apr 04, 2009 2:23 AM GMT
    styrgan saidI can't help but feel muted about this. This is just another chance to see a repeat of the Prop 8 fiasco.

    Yes, though this will take longer, due to procedural differences with the way Iowa amends its state constitution, versus how California rushed to quash gay marriage. It may take 2 years to undo this Iowa court decision.

    But undoing it will become a Republican and Conservative goal, and they may succeed yet again in crushing gay rights, as they did in California. Pleasing RJ Republicans here, who claim to be gay, but who oppose all gay rights, and support anti-gay marriage initiatives. If even our own hate us, how will we ever win these battles?
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    Apr 04, 2009 2:27 AM GMT
    GREAT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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    Apr 04, 2009 2:32 AM GMT
    Red
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    And anyone else.

    I don't know where this pessimism is coming from or why. IOWA is not CA and is not going to overturn this. I understand all the defensive posturing "I don't want to be happy for this because it will crush me when they destroy it later" after Prop 8... but this is not the same situation nor is it the place to ruin the accomplishment that this is the day it happens. I just feel that this is one of the few situations in life where it is black and white -- good vs bad -- this is good, and I don't understand why some of you, on a gay pride website, feel necessary to naysay when something amazing happened.

    Let me remind you, Iowa was the first state to put Obama on the ticket, with a 95% white population, so maybe you could follow the political trends instead of the CA or NE trends and realize that IA is a different animal.
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    Apr 04, 2009 2:39 AM GMT
    So goes Iowa, so goes the nation!!!!
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    Apr 04, 2009 2:40 AM GMT
    I'm glad someone finally decided equal means equal. Maybe they talked to a mathematician.

    Of course there are some that still think, as in George Orwell's Animal Farm that some "are more equal than others"
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    Apr 04, 2009 2:48 AM GMT
    Four out of the six states bordering Iowa have constitutionally banned same-sex marriage...I say celebrate.