Related question to "I'm NOT proud to be gay." Feminine/Masculine acting gay men: Natural or affected behavior.

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    Apr 04, 2009 1:55 AM GMT
    First, I'm new to posting to these boards, and I want to say "hello" to all the "members" around the world!

    I have many gay friends who fall on both sides of the masculne/feminine behavior line. Some are big, gruff, hairy men. Others are practically women trapped in men's bodies (Some are trapped in the beefiest men's bodies)icon_biggrin.gif.

    How much do think "queeny/swishy" behavior is natural, or put on? Do some gay men put on a big tough act to cover the fear of their own "femininity?"

    I don't mean to be disrespectful, I ask to gain/give more understanding to the issue.

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    Apr 04, 2009 3:35 AM GMT
    n8698u saidFirst, I'm new to posting to these boards, and I want to say "hello" to all the "members" around the world!

    I have many gay friends who fall on both sides of the masculne/feminine behavior line. Some are big, gruff, hairy men. Others are practically women trapped in men's bodies (Some are trapped in the beefiest men's bodies)icon_biggrin.gif.

    How much do think "queeny/swishy" behavior is natural, or put on? Do some gay men put on a big tough act to cover the fear of their own "femininity?"

    I don't mean to be disrespectful, I ask to gain/give more understanding to the issue.



    Some guys are naturally feminine
    some guys are natuarlly masculine
    some guys put on a feminine act
    some guys put on a masculine act
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    Apr 04, 2009 4:05 AM GMT
    Blackguy4you said
    Some guys are naturally feminine
    some guys are natuarlly masculine
    some guys put on a feminine act
    some guys put on a masculine act


    Allow me to fix that for you:
    Some gay guys are naturally feminine
    some gay guys are natuarlly masculine
    some gay guys put on a feminine act
    some gay guys put on a masculine act
    Some straight guys are naturally feminine
    some straight guys are natuarlly masculine
    some straight guys put on a feminine act
    some straight guys put on a masculine act
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    Apr 04, 2009 4:13 AM GMT
    Hello n8698u! Do a search on "masculine" and or "feminine" in archived forums; you will likely find plenty of heated debate and good info.

    Don't be too surprised about passionate responses: potential flame verbiage has been known to occur when discussing masculine/feminine issues and/or attributing behavioral traits. icon_cool.gif

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    Apr 04, 2009 4:32 AM GMT
    DCEric said
    Blackguy4you said
    Some guys are naturally feminine
    some guys are natuarlly masculine
    some guys put on a feminine act
    some guys put on a masculine act


    Allow me to fix that for you:
    Some gay guys are naturally feminine
    some gay guys are natuarlly masculine
    some gay guys put on a feminine act
    some gay guys put on a masculine act
    Some straight guys are naturally feminine
    some straight guys are natuarlly masculine
    some straight guys put on a feminine act
    some straight guys put on a masculine act


    I tend not to hold up straight guys as the norm.
    I thought gay was understood
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    Apr 04, 2009 4:33 AM GMT
    you should have seen me in the middle of rebble sports when a song came on that I liked.. I danced to it like I just didn't care and I didn't care.. and i don't care.. I got looked at funny and a girl giggled at me and had a dance too..

    Fuck everyone else.. I've one life i'm doing it my way!
  • ROYCE13

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    Apr 04, 2009 6:57 AM GMT
    Firstly, being feminine does not equate to being gay, so one of your statements is wrong. Some are natural and some develop. I had a fraternity brother in college, he was a man whore with the ladies and then when he was a junior he came out and said he was gay. We were friends before and after the "coming out". However, I noticed a complete change in mannerisms and called him on the carpet and asked if the new mannerisms were his natural self or was mirroring behavior of how he thought a gay man should act. He said he was acting the way he thought he should, so I told him to knock if off and act in his natural self. So this is an example of a learned behavior.
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    Apr 04, 2009 7:20 AM GMT
    I think a lot of the flamboyant stuff is assumed.
    There is no culturally established gender role (gender is separate from sex) for gays. Unfortunately, the prominent one is also the stereotyped crap and because it has the largest audience for what defines a gay's expected behavior, it is the gender role that gets taken up, or assumed.

    'How am I supposed to act*?'
    Then they see that drivel and BAM, they talk with a lisp, enshroud themselves in fashion, sashay across floors and shake hands with dainty fingers. This is all learned behavior, but for who's benefit?

    You're not who you think you are,
    You're not who you think I think you are,
    You are what you think I think you are.

    And thus we conform to expectation in order to be accepted, no matter in what light or how erroneous the truth on which that acceptance is based upon.

    *Don't kid yourself, we all act. We act different around our mothers than we do our coworkers, differently around children than we do cops. Everyone desires to belong, and not knowing your place is a grave thing indeed.
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    Apr 04, 2009 11:01 AM GMT

    I think this feminine behaviour is mostly natural, you can't just assume that all of the feminine-acting guys are imitating someone or some group..

    But in the other hand, gender mannerisms are affected by society or inviroment .. These guys tend to behave like this because part of their "gay" perosnality tells them to do so.. They feel more comfortable with themselves if they dress like that or talk like that. It's how they want others to see them and how they wanna see themselves ..

    Inviroment vs personality ..So, yes, it's natural..

  • gymguy81

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    Apr 04, 2009 11:11 AM GMT
    i think is natural i mean your enviorment has something to curb your natural tendences. i have a straight freind hes married has 2 kids and i tend to be more masculne in apperence and manerisums than he is.
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    Apr 04, 2009 11:20 AM GMT
    I think that on the whole straight guys are conditioned to act with John Wayne-esque swagger.

    Although, the times, they are a changing. Look! A film star wearing eyeliner!

    6834-zac_efron_s_love_guyliner_put_edge_

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    Apr 04, 2009 11:53 AM GMT
    Lost_And_Found saidI think that on the whole straight guys are conditioned to act with John Wayne-esque swagger.

    Although, the times, they are a changing. Look! A film star wearing eyeliner!

    6834-zac_efron_s_love_guyliner_put_edge_



    C'mon, John.
    Nobody is talking about women wearing makeup...OH WAIT...that's not two women, one of 'em is that Saffron...Effron...whatever guy. My bad.

    Looks like Linda Evangalista's younger sister!
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    Apr 04, 2009 4:40 PM GMT
    Lost_And_Found saidI think that on the whole straight guys are conditioned to act with John Wayne-esque swagger.

    Although, the times, they are a changing. Look! A film star wearing eyeliner!

    6834-zac_efron_s_love_guyliner_put_edge_



    And he looks like a little bitch (in the vulgar sense), is that your point? icon_rolleyes.gif

    "Dweeb" comes to mind. icon_lol.gif
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    Apr 04, 2009 4:43 PM GMT
    Lost_And_Found saidI think that on the whole straight guys are conditioned to act with John Wayne-esque swagger.

    Although, the times, they are a changing. Look! A film star wearing eyeliner!

    6834-zac_efron_s_love_guyliner_put_edge_



    When I first saw that picture I thought it was Lost and Found.