your thoughts - over the head plate raises

  • gallus81

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    Apr 05, 2009 7:09 AM GMT
    I've been doing this exercise for awhile now as a 'finishing' exercise when working the shoulders/arms.

    I haven't seen anyone else do it, though I'm sure someone else out there does it or similar, and I have seen the standard plate rises but not with the additional tricep kick on the end; does anyone else do this? Does it have a name?

    I'm sure there are some who wouldn't suggest dropping the plate behind the head as I do, but I figure if you start light and slowly work up to heavy weights, it should be ok ... I find this exercise gives a good work out to the core too, and I know I need to work on that 'sway' - a wider stance would probably help.

    Like I said, I use it as a finishing exercise at the end of a session and do it to fatigue, which is a challenge when you've got 25kgs hovering above your head.

    Interested in any thoughts people might have, or other similar techniques.



  • UFJocknerd

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    Apr 06, 2009 1:27 AM GMT
    That doesn't seem like a good idea to me. Looks like you'd either be putting a lot of stress on your rotators if you're doing enough weight for a front shoulder raise or tri extension, or not nearly enough weight for the major muscles if you're lifting light to take care of your rotators.
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    Apr 06, 2009 1:33 AM GMT
    not sure if its good or bad for you, but you look pretty good doing them,
    especially in HD.
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    Apr 06, 2009 1:51 AM GMT
    i do them slightly differently. instead of going all the way overhead, i bring the weight to the top of my head from my trunk then back down. i also stand against a wall when doing it. it feels great for my traps. personally.
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    Apr 06, 2009 2:18 AM GMT
    It looks like an awkward movement. And I think you're using too much weight, especially if this is supposed to be a finishing exercise. I can see you struggle throughout the exercise, and your form isn't consistent with each rep.

    But if you're getting positive results from it, then disregard my comment and carry on. icon_lol.gif
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    Apr 06, 2009 2:35 AM GMT
    gallus81 saidI've been doing this exercise for awhile now as a 'finishing' exercise when working the shoulders/arms.

    I haven't seen anyone else do it, though I'm sure someone else out there does it or similar, and I have seen the standard plate rises but not with the additional tricep kick on the end; does anyone else do this? Does it have a name?

    I'm sure there are some who wouldn't suggest dropping the plate behind the head as I do, but I figure if you start light and slowly work up to heavy weights, it should be ok ... I find this exercise gives a good work out to the core too, and I know I need to work on that 'sway' - a wider stance would probably help.

    Like I said, I use it as a finishing exercise at the end of a session and do it to fatigue, which is a challenge when you've got 25kgs hovering above your head.

    Interested in any thoughts people might have, or other similar techniques.





    It's not really going to hurt anything. Just don't drop it on your toe(s).
  • gallus81

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    Apr 06, 2009 2:49 AM GMT
    I figure it's not ideal going past the head, and I'm not sure why I started doing it, but it does work the right spots ... I know both my rotators are not the strongest, but strangely it doesn't seem to bother them too much. I probably should stick to light weights though so that I can put more emphasis on technique as opposed to getting every last bit of strength out for the end of a session.

    I'll give it a try against a wall too to see if that assist, but obviously not go all the way down the back for the tricep part.

    thanks all.
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    Apr 06, 2009 2:51 AM GMT
    You might find front lateral raises provide more range of motion and you don't risk hitting yourself in the head, or dropping the plate on your toe.
  • gallus81

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    Apr 06, 2009 5:59 AM GMT
    chuckystud saidYou might find front lateral raises provide more range of motion and you don't risk hitting yourself in the head, or dropping the plate on your toe.


    they're just signs it's time to go home
  • B71115

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    Apr 06, 2009 6:26 AM GMT
    you can do them and you will get results, but you do go too far by just a hair on the first rep. look at :05 and see when your elbows give way. that's too far. my opinion anyway. until then, you're working your triceps. after that you're just begging to get hurt
  • gallus81

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    Apr 06, 2009 8:10 AM GMT
    B71115 saidyou can do them and you will get results, but you do go too far by just a hair on the first rep. look at :05 and see when your elbows give way. that's too far. my opinion anyway. until then, you're working your triceps. after that you're just begging to get hurt


    nice spotting - thanks
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    Apr 06, 2009 10:56 AM GMT
    Why not do them? It hits a ton of upper body muscles. I don't see a problem.
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    Apr 06, 2009 10:58 AM GMT
    I don't believe in "finishing" exercises, though. Not even sure what that means. Work ever muscle group hard with good basic exercises.
  • gallus81

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    Apr 07, 2009 9:03 AM GMT
    Triggerman saidI don't believe in "finishing" exercises, though. Not even sure what that means. Work ever muscle group hard with good basic exercises.


    I do ... and just as a parting shot, I do a couple of sets of these for good measure before leaving the gym.
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    Apr 15, 2009 4:34 PM GMT
    i do this excercise with a set of 3 plates.....20kg,15kg and 10....i do 12 raises with each plate in rapid sequence as a set.....i do it 3 times....and it bloody kills LOL (in a good way).
    as a result my entire shoulder/triep area have grown.....i just do not want to drop any of these weights on my head/feet! LOL

    and yes finishing exercises are goodicon_smile.gif
  • gallus81

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    Apr 15, 2009 10:20 PM GMT
    Craigjd saidi do this excercise with a set of 3 plates.....20kg,15kg and 10....i do 12 raises with each plate in rapid sequence as a set.....i do it 3 times....and it bloody kills LOL (in a good way).
    as a result my entire shoulder/triep area have grown.....i just do not want to drop any of these weights on my head/feet! LOL

    and yes finishing exercises are goodicon_smile.gif


    do you mount them together on a bar of some type or you just have an ultra-strong grip?

    gives me something to aim for too, thanks
  • torontoguy222...

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    Apr 16, 2009 3:07 PM GMT
    Ya, it does look a bit awkward. It seems to be a hybrid of two exercises: A lateral shoulder lift and a Tricept extension. Perhaps just do them separately, I dunno. I guess if you're not feeling any pain then go for it. But what if you can actually lift different amounts of weights for those 2 exercises? Then it makes more sense to do them separately.
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    Apr 17, 2009 6:10 PM GMT
    i have a strong grip...otherwise the alternative is a head injury...pass on the concussion LOL......some of the plates we have actually have holes in them so you have a gripping area.